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Polaroid: This Time It's Digital

MrSeb writes "Long before Facebook and Twitpic, photos were shared by simply handing someone a print. No camera made this easier than the once-ubiquitous Polaroid. Nothing represented instant gratification better in the film era than having a print develop before your eyes, ready to hand out in a minute. Unfortunately for Polaroid, the advent of digital photography sounded the death knell for its iconic instant print cameras. A brief reprieve in the form of inexpensive sticker-printing versions was ended by the cellphone camera revolution. Now, after a decade in remission, Polaroid has returned with a full-up digital camera that incorporates instant printing technology. The Polaroid Z340 is a 14MP digital with an integrated Zink-enabled (Zero Ink) printer. In a nostalgic touch, the new camera prints 3×4-inch images, the same size as the original Polaroid film cameras. Remarkably, all this fits in a one-pound, seven-ounce package, about the same weight as a mid-range DSLR."

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  1. What about a film polaroid by jbolden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That sounds good and I'm glad they're back. Though I wonder if coming back with an old fashioned analog polaroid might not sell as well. "The polaroid" was a name for a type of picture, a digital print isn't going to feel that unique.

    1. Re:What about a film polaroid by muridae · · Score: 3, Funny

      Other than a printer that doesn't use ink or ribbon cartridges? That should be the real lead to this story "Dead camera company brings ink-less printer to market, attaches overpriced camera to it to make sure they keep their name."

    2. Re:What about a film polaroid by icebike · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not only are some trying it, but Polaroid is not alone.

      The linked site contains a link to Zero Ink, which shows other products on the market.
      Some of them, like the Tomy Xaio look a little more appealing than the Polaroid.
      http://www.zink.com/TOMY-xiao

      I suspect there is a market for this, but probably not in digitally savvy countries where
      everyone has a smartphone and can email the picture and put it on facebook before the
      Polaroid can even print out a single copy.

      Presumably these devices retain a digital image, so that capability may be added
      just in time for the whole idea to go bust again.

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    3. Re:What about a film polaroid by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Its what you DON'T bring to the party that matters - that is, a wireless printer. Instant printing has a niche at some types of events, so I can see this filling that. Sure, you can bring a printer with you. You could also bring a laptop with you. That isn't the point of this.

    4. Re:What about a film polaroid by uniquename72 · · Score: 3, Informative

      There already is an analog Polaroid available. Its called the impossible project, and their store in Vienna was packed when I was there a few weeks ago.

    5. Re:What about a film polaroid by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unfortunately, 'ZINK' is "zero ink" in the sense that "the necessary dyes or precursors are embedded in our unique proprietary paper and then heat-activated by the printer".

      Technologically speaking, 'ZINK' is substantially more advanced than your basic monochrome thermal printer, as seen in most label and receipt printers everywhere, and I give their tech guys full credit; but I cannot help but be extremely unimpressed by the likely value proposition of a printer where you have to buy the manufacturer's proprietary paper(and in the correct size for your mobile gimmick widget, unless you feel like doing some cutting). At present the stuff isn't cheap and either due to limited market or patents on the paper technology, no generic compatibles appear to exist...

    6. Re:What about a film polaroid by syousef · · Score: 4, Informative

      At present the stuff isn't cheap and either due to limited market or patents on the paper technology, no generic compatibles appear to exist...

      Nor are they likely to....

      http://www.zink.com/how-zink-works
      "ZINK was developed over several years and has generated an IP portfolio that includes over 100 patents and patents pending"

      There's more on the page about patents and registered trademarks than the tech itself. Tell me again how IP law encourages creativity? This will be tied up for decades, which won't allow it to take off.

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    7. Re:What about a film polaroid by the_fat_kid · · Score: 2

      did you ever have one of those Polaroid instant cameras? Ever buy the SX-70 film/battery packs for it?
      I remember 10 or 12 pictures to a pack at a cost of dollars per picture.
      I'm sure that the "Special" paper will be a similar deal and take off like a lead ballon, but it's been the way Polaroid does business for a long time now.
      It's also the kind of thinking that will probably not pave a golden future for the company.

      now, get the hell off of my lawn.

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    8. Re:What about a film polaroid by Bifurcati · · Score: 2

      Actually, that's for the PoGo (smaller 2x3" prints). I've got one, and it's excellent - perfect for travelling to remote areas of the world and leaving families with photos of their kids!

    9. Re:What about a film polaroid by justforgetme · · Score: 2

      As already pointed out the existing world wide patent regime is only putting roadblocks into innovation by making sure that the only ones who innovate are the ones that can run multi decade lawsuit wars about ill granted patents on quasi generic topics about mildly similar processes.

      So yes, it is kind of encouraging innovation. It encourages "investment safe innovation". For those that have hundreds of millions of dollars. The layers are particularly happy though.

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    10. Re:What about a film polaroid by operagost · · Score: 2

      There's more on the page about patents and registered trademarks than the tech itself. Tell me again how IP law encourages creativity?

      It wouldn't have been created in the first place if the company wasn't able to make money off of it. You see, when a company wants to create something new, they often spend millions of dollars on R&D. Who's going to do that if someone else clones the product within a few months, before they've even recouped their costs? The length and scope of patents is arguable; the value of patents to technological progress is not.

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    11. Re:What about a film polaroid by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      There is also a large group of slashdotters who don't know the difference between a patent and a copyright (the OP may be one, as he thinks it will be tied up "for decades"). There is also a large group of slashdotters who think 17 years is a long time. For many it is -- 17 years is a lifetime when you're not old enough to vote.

      I have yet to see the ones you're pointing to who think innovation is "I get to use everyone's work". Can you link to such a comment?

  2. Probably too little too late by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a soft spot for Polaroid cameras, having grown up back when they were all the rage (just after the dinosaurs died). The Land Camera was a lot of fun, back in the day. But, really, the only thing unique about this new camera is the printing, and no one wants to do that anymore.

    The whole point of printing, way back then, was simply because it was the only way to share your images. That's no longer an issue. Even my mom's phone can send and receive photos. A print can only be shared with one person, while a digital image can be shared with an arbitrary number of people. There's just no advantage to being able to instantly print in this form factor.

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    1. Re:Probably too little too late by icebike · · Score: 2

      Medical uses may be the exception. A print copy in the file that can be looked at without a computer may be very useful in dentistry or plastic surgery. Separate printers add complexity. Dropping the print in the doctors lap makes sense.
      I'm sure there are a few more corner cases.

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    2. Re:Probably too little too late by green1 · · Score: 2

      Have you worked in a modern medical facility? nobody looks at pictures or diagnostic imagery in physical form anymore. Gone are the days of the x-ray snapped to the light panel on the wall. Everything is done on computers.

      I agree there may be a niche for this, but the one you suggest just isn't it.

  3. This is for the older crowd by rolfwind · · Score: 2

    My first temptation was to scoff and say this is the digital age, why print them out.

    Then I remembered 2 years ago, I got my dad this sony dyesub (Sony DPP-FP95, I think 97 is the newest). It prints pics perfectly, as good as the store. And because it's dyesub, it's superior to inkjet in every way: the dots blend together and aren't discrete, it has a clearcoat so no smudging, and the toner is dry on plastic so no printhead to dry out after a period of nonuse. It's the first digital gadget he really uses and actually loves: after every damn trip he sits down and make pics after pics. I know, I get sent a packet every so often with the sony branding.

    If this polaroid is the same way, good on them. I can barely keep my digital pics organized, I don't expect older people to really grok photo organizing software either.

  4. Missing the point. by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Informative
    You're missing the point. With the total lack of privacy online and the risk of leakage of so-called "private" pictures, it's about time for a camera that can print real pictures on impulse.

    A real-life example - many years ago, My girlfriend and I used a Polaroid to manufacture child pornography of ourselves and some of our friends (we were all 15 at the time). It was a crime most heinous, but high-school kids don't deserve to be charged and have their lives ruined because of it.

    But Ethanol, why not just have them printed at a drugstore?

    I was a film developer at a drugstore. All images are archived (yes, even at the "print your own" kiosks) and every picture on a roll of film is seen by the developer, because we have to manually correct for CMY, density, and a host of other factors for maximum customer satisfaction - which means that your trick of taking a few "normal" pics followed by a bunch of nudes and finally more "normal" pics doesn't keep your dirty secrets from us. Fortunately, I saw a lot of nudes but never saw anything questionable.

  5. Special paper... and expensive by mariushm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unfortunately, at 20$ for 30 sheets of the special photo paper it needs, I don't see it being successful.

    I guess they're probably trying to use the classic inkjet printer selling scheme, where the printer is cheap but the cartridges are expensive... though their camera is 300$.

    It can also print just 25 photos with its battery which is not clear if it's removable or not - strange number considering the paper is sold in packs of 30.

  6. There is no Polaroid by El+Puerco+Loco · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's just a brand name now that's licensed out. Edwin Land's company is long gone.

  7. Ad by Jiro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A statement of the form "nothing makes it easier than (brand)" is ad copy. It's a statement which means "we can't say it's better than the others, so we're going to make a statement which implies it's better than the others while it may only mean that all brands are basically the same" (after all, if they're the same, then nothing else is better).

  8. An option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't it cheaper and easier just to freeze your relatives in carbonite? That way you can preserve your memories forever and avoid all the nasty Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners.

  9. Done in 60 seconds and you still want it enlarged by tepples · · Score: 2

    Plus, you're limited to a tiny print compared with a small printer.

    As I understand it, you can enlarge a digital photo later on a full-size printer.

  10. now I just need an esper by nounderscores · · Score: 2

    Also it's so that Roy Batty can chew out Leon for leaving behind his precious photos.