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Film Studios Seeking Complete Block of Newzbin2 in the UK
superglaze writes "Having got BT, one of the biggest ISPs in the UK, to block the Newzbin2 Usenet site, the Motion Picture Association is now trying to get the same result from all the other major service providers in the country. As this is likely to go through, it won't be long before most people in the UK will be unable to visit file-sharing sites at all, without using a proxy, VPN, or special client."
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At the end of the day, they won't be surprised when the ticket sales for the utter crap that they call movies doesn't go up one bit. People who download movies usually cannot afford to go and see them, or refuse to pay the ridiculous prices to see them. Cinemas in the UK are a joke. 7 quid for a coke and popcorn. 8 quid to get in. Take a family of 4 to a cinema and you are out 60 quid ($90 ish). It's a joke. Just to sit there for 90 minutes and watch utter crap. Make cinema affordable for families again and piracy will go down very quickly.
having just read that, it seems, there is no need for smaller ISPs that resell the connection of BT to be blocked (which they wont be it seems).
now, if there is one idea we can steal from patent trolls (if they didn't patent it yet) its making shell companies with no real atributes.
how about making smaller ISPs that do nothing but resell the connection of BT, if they get sued, you drop them and offer the clients to swap to another shell company with no added costs, under the same terms.
Then child porn. Then hate speech. Then speech to create political unrest. Then pro-abortion speech. Then pro-Republican speech.
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it won't be long before most people in the UK will be unable to visit file-sharing sites at all, without using a proxy, VPN, or special client.
That's like saying you soon won't be able to leave your own house - unless you use a door or window. If the Chinese government cannot filter the internet effectively the UK government will have no hope.
And yet the population at large will continue to blissfully re-elect that same old clowns that are helping to slowly tighten the noose/boil us frogs... nothing to see here.
Stop watching TV and cancel all magazine subscriptions. When you block these big-money ad channels, you'll find you want less things than you used to.
Ads are all about making you want stuff you didn't want before. Or even knew about before.
Piracy doesn't matter anymore; it's about useless stuff we can live without. Try it yourself if you don't believe me. Toss that TV and cancel all newspaper and mag subs.
And doubtless it'll be just as effective as BT's blocking has been...
Though I suspect that it's less the awesome skill of the people circumventing it and more that BT have almost certainly found the cheapest way to minimally comply with the court order making it trivial to bypass and the other ISPs will probably do the same.
Yes, this isn't all bad. What this means is that the Average Joe will become somewhat more clueful about how to route around the "damage", and the use of these tools will become more ubiquitous (thereby helping to shield the privacy of those who use them).
The funny thing is that the people that download movies are actually the ones that are going to cinema. And if you anger them enough, instead of going to the cinema for the rare cases there is some relatively good movies, they will actually download them all, and f... them all. And it is easy, there are tons of torrent sites, thousands, and most of them are in countries where you cannot close them (not legally). And finally, lets not forget why P2P, Torrent, etc were invented.. remember remember the 5th of November ........
By forcing the 'net underground they ultimately encourage truly free speech.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
I'm curious - why did they go after Newsbin2? Why not one of the main sites, like Piratebay (I know they're next, but you'd have thought they'd have gone after the big fish first). Unless Newsbin2 is a bigger site than I gave it credit for. I've never really heard of it, even from chatter amongst heavy filesharers and newsgroup users - nzbmatrix, binsearch, etc. all seem a lot more popular.
What did Newsbin2 do to specifically piss off this label?
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It'll be hard for the majority of aspie-afflicted Slashdot readers to understand, but for those of us who work in the creative industries (as opposed to being braindead code monkeys), this is actually good news.
If piracy continues, creativity will be reduced to mere amateurism and vanity publishing, because nobody will be able to make a living from it.
Now mod me down, assholes.
I never heard of Newzbin2 before. Now I'll give it a look.
The court statement blocks a specific set of sites. If newzbin2 changed their DNS name to www.somestupidothername.com, changed their IP addresses and their hosting information, the firms would have to start again and it does take time.
newzbin2 will move far quicker than the UK legal process.
There are so many ways to circumvent this now that its pointless.
Anyway, good luck to the film companies, it's always fun watching stupid people wasting time and money.
There needs to be a mass migration to this. It will be difficult, similar to the IPv4 to IPv6 transition, but it will be completely invulnerable to interference. TPB should take the lead by setting up a parallel darknet tracker & torrent site that runs on I2P, that would make it easy for users to start running multiple clients and ease the transition to I2P torrents. Once complete anonymity is possible, uploading will become much more popular, maybe there could be a quick interface for re-seeding old torrents on I2P.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Refuse to buy any content or product from any member of the mafiaa. Continue to download copyrighted material even if it is just to seed. Support open media and content providers that give away their content through donations. If you want these guys to loose their grip on your society you have to remove their power. Money. There are people that actively pull games and cd's off the shelf to rip them out of hatred for the publisher/distributer. Don't give in to the desire to buy something as soon as it comes out.
Or, more precisely for us un the U.S., banning guns because they kill people.
I'm going way out on a limb here, but in the U.S., I suspect there are many more incidents of crimes committed with the aid of a handgun than there are incidents of self-defense usign a handgun. Banning guns isn't the solution for several reasons, the most salient being that criminals will still have guns from any source willing to sell them, while their victims will not.
Forcing British ISPs to block Newzbin2 is the equivalent of banning the service (Usenet) because it is almost entirely used for what are apparently illegal activities. Apparently being significant also. So rather than tackle each incident, or even ask for blocking of specific content, why, go ahead and kill off the entire service. Kinda sad.
But the British aren't unused to this. After all, in the U.K., owning a handgun isn't a right. Neither is being left alone by your government. And the U.S. is following right behind, sadly.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
is that they're using the same technology for this as they do for childporn, essentially inviting thousands to discus how to circumvent it instead of just a few shady groups here and there. this'll just lead to tighter security for child porn, which the movie industry will then wish to adopt for films and so on and so forth.
The once united global net will be fractured into small national networks if these legislations spread.
First they blocked the file sharing sites, but I did not speak out because I was not a file-sharer...
It's called afroamericanlist, not blacklist.
On second thought, let's not go to Camelot. It is a silly place.
I dream of the day people stop watching/purchasing TV and movies and actually do something with their time, I wish everyone would cease to buy or watch anything for a month, a media black out on purchasing and leaving your TV off.
These people only have power if you continue to play their game.
Have a BBQ instead, invite all your neighbors, because it seems like no one knows their neighbors any more.
At one time I was naive enough to think that the Internet could be the thing that would allow people to do this sort of thing, to come together in force, make change, and in some cases it has (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects) instead it seems to fall to the lowest common denominator, mobs of people dancing morphed into mobs of people robbing and vandalizing, where once it took time to become jaded and disgusted with humanity, now with the Internet (Youtube anyone? Holla!!!) it takes mere minutes.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
The industry can't see an arms-race when it's staring them in the face.
This will escalate until file-sharing is done over invite-only darknets. Best
of luck filtering fully encrypted data streams that make a jump or two
across national borders. A DNS blacklist is one thing, but forcing ISPs to
engage in highly costly traffic analysis is something they will fight tooth and nail.
...using a proxy, VPN, or special client.
So there are your first 3 workarounds already. Tells you how effective this is all going to be. Nothing more than harder to detect when it's actually happening now.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
As highlighted by RevK from AAISP in a recent blog post on the stupidity of the blocking
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Of the cinemas i've been to over the years, most are smelly, dirty, poor climate control (either too hot or too cold), uncomfortable seats, seats too close together so you knock elbows etc etc...
So it's the equivalent of a British-made car or British cuisine. Sounds more like you may have a cultural problem.
Every time I go to the cinema I swear it will be my last visit. Then over a period of a few months, I figure maybe I was just being a little too picky and arsey, so I try again. And swear that it's the last time.
Between people talking (they don't even bother whispering anymore), stinking foods, the glow of large cellphone screens throughout and damaged speakers that rattle and distort, I can never quite remember why I'm paying to see the film. So I started renting.
But the studios wised up to people like me renting and a number of films I've wanted to watch have been 'Unavailable for rental' from lovefilm. And we don't have any blockbusters near where I live. So I just skip those movies. But I bet loads of people who do want to see them DON'T skip them.
The studios have to understand that the business model has changed. They can't charge what they did in the past because the product isn't the same. The experience is broken, and it's the experience we were paying for.