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Biofuel Thieves Steal Restaurant Grease

TMB writes "In a move that The Simpson's foretold, thieves have begun stealing inedible kitchen grease for use in biofuels. From the article: 'It's known as inedible kitchen grease, or IKG, which was once deemed waste and used in animal feed, though now is "an elixir in the booming green economy," according to the California Department of Food and Agriculture. "The grease’s value as a biofuel is being increasingly recognized," the agency said last month. "IKG is now coveted, which makes it a target for theft.."

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  1. Simpsons did it by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, two jokes in one!

    1. Re:Simpsons did it by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, two jokes in one!

      In Capitalist Eurozone Greece steals from EU!

      Well, only if they default...

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    2. Re:Simpsons did it by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Funny

      My retirement grease!

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    3. Re:Simpsons did it by EEPROMS · · Score: 3, Funny

      Chief Wigim " The thieves are said to look like hippies and smell like a fast food restaurant....dam now I am hungry"

  2. Why does my car smell like french fries... by potscott · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's incredibly easy to convert an old VW diesel to run on kitchen grease. The trickiest part is keeping the viscosity down so you can pump it to the engine, but there's plenty of kits out there with in tank heaters for colder regions.

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    1. Re:Why does my car smell like french fries... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's incredibly easy to convert an old VW diesel to run on kitchen grease. The trickiest part is keeping the viscosity down so you can pump it to the engine, but there's plenty of kits out there with in tank heaters for colder regions.

      Mechanic on my two previous cars was running a Mercedes diesel on bio fuel. He had some setup outside his house, which processed cooking oil into fuel. Initially he had no trouble finding local restaurants who were happy to give away their used oil (rather than pay for disposal.) Not so available anymore, people are willing to pay for it now.

      In other news, there's a flight recently by a jet powered by biofuel - mostly for promotional reasons as the jet requirement came in at about g/$17 as opposed to g/$3 for petrol jet fuel.

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    2. Re:Why does my car smell like french fries... by Khyber · · Score: 2

      Greasecar.com has kits for tons of vehicles.

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  3. Not just for fuel in California by ackthpt · · Score: 2

    Disturbing story on the BBC, a while back, regarding recovered grease from disposal, grease traps, drains, etc. being recycled into packaged cooking oil in China. Yum.

    Where's there's opportunity, all that's needed is people with the required ethics.

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    1. Re:Not just for fuel in California by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

      Just one more reason to never eat anything labeled "Made in China" or "Made in PRC".

    2. Re:Not just for fuel in California by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most of our manufactured crap comes from there, but (aside from apple juice) our food supply is not completely overrun yet. Trader Joe's completely avoids Chinese suppliers.

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    3. Re:Not just for fuel in California by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 4, Funny

      . . .so you can't trust any juice anymore...

      Isn't that what Hitler said?

      /rimshot

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  4. Could be worse by identity0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, at least it's not likely to get mixed with sewage to make lard for human consumption like in China.

    One hopes so, at least.

  5. And creating a nuisance by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Funny

    What an embarrassing thing to have to admit to your cell mates...

    He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"

    And I said, "Stealing garbage." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And creating a nuisance."

    And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.

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  6. Re:If it's IKG and therefore no use to the restaur by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Have the restaurants thrown the grease away, or just put it in storage tanks? Maybe the restaurant contracts with legitimate biodiesel producers and they sell or get free removal of the grease by the production company, who then uses it to make biofuel? What you are saying is like saying "going into foreclosed houses and taking the copper wiring/piping out and selling it isn't stealing, because no one is using the house and banks are evil!" It is both morally and legally wrong.

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  7. Re:If it's IKG and therefore no use to the restaur by pclminion · · Score: 2

    How do you know the restaurant wasn't going to sell the grease to a legitimate biofuel maker? Just because it's sitting outside in a tank doesn't make it "fair game." A friend of mine collects fryer grease, purifies it, and sells it to larger biofuels companies. He PAYS for the grease when he picks it up from the restaurants. Taking it without paying is fucking theft.

  8. Re:If it's IKG and therefore no use to the restaur by p0p0 · · Score: 2

    This thing is mine. It is not yours. You have taken it from me. Theft! It's not that bloody difficult. We're not talking about online piracy. This concept has been pretty cut and dry for thousands of years.

  9. This is old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Back when I was making my own fuel out of WVO (thats Waste Vegetable Oil, IKG is a new term to me), stores would GIVE US their grease for free. They were paying Rendering farms to haul it off for them. To be turned into dog food usually.

    Then biofuel got big, and the renderers started to actually pay a small amount for the oil that they use to get paid to take.

    Then, in CA, they got a law passed that said if you haul used veggie oil, you have to have a business license and insurance. It was a scare tactic to get the small time home brewer out of the loop, so that the renderers wouldnt have to compete with home brewers. They even got it classified as a hazardous product!

    By the way, the process of turning grease into biofuel is the same as turning it into soap (aka Fight Club), its just a different ratio of the same chemicals. Some Methanol, and some Caustic lye or caustic soda, depending on what your source oil is. Shake and serve!

    1. Re:This is old news by budgenator · · Score: 2

      Not always, the The two-stage biodiesel process completely avoids soap.

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  10. Re:If it's IKG and therefore no use to the restaur by Tastecicles · · Score: 3, Interesting

    FTFS: it's not the restaurants that are reporting this, it's a Government Agency. If they were so hot on biodiesel as an alternative to drill diesel they'd be making it illegal to make your own and making nightly runs between restaurants and large privately owned refineries (with such original names as "Shell", "Halliburton", "BP", Texaco"...) and selling the stuff at the same price as regular. The problem for them is it's insanely easy (and relatively inexpensive) to make your own diesel, it'd be as difficult to regulate as alcohol (see: prohibition) and would likely as not spawn an underworld of diesel bootleggers armed with Thompsonsmaybe.

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  11. Re:can I put my kitchen grease in my old oil drum? by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    most grease needs to be filtered before it can be used (or it'll clog your pipes, and then you won't be happy). IIRC there are instructions on what you need to do to turn used vegetable oil into biofuel for your car.

    You could definitely dump your grease in there until it gets full, what you'd do with it after that is another question to ask though :)

  12. Re:If it's IKG and therefore no use to the restaur by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Informative

    FTFS: it's not the restaurants that are reporting this, it's a Government Agency

    Yes the issue of a broad theft problem is being reported by a GA, and the GA is talking about taking action, but the GA wouldn't know about the problem unless it was reported by the independent restaurants first.

    The implication that the restaurants don't care, only the government and its oil lobbyists care, is completely unfounded.

    Oh, and also wrong according to TFA:

    NPR blogger Nancy Shute reports on how restaurants and recyclers are now putting barrels of so-called yellow grease under lock and key because, as the National Renderers Association told her, it has become "the new copper."

    I guess you were under the impression that only the government and the thieves, not the restaurants, knew that IKG could be valuable?

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  13. All reverse in Argentina by jago25_98 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People have varying views of rubbish disposal.

    In Argentina before they had the crash that the west is about to have rubbish was viewed this way.
    But after the 2002 financial crash so many people were destitute that an army of people was born and found searching the dustbins primarily for cardboard.

    Now the crash is past this group of people seemingly come out of nowhere at night and clean up the streets. Now people just through rubbish out wherever and there is hardly any governement provided collection. Compare this with western Europe where everything is a cost and a problem to dispose of, so much that people dump it anywhere.

    I always suggest working with the market rather than fighting against it. If there is a problem then attempt to steer the market flow rather than trying to make water go uphill.

    In this example people who wish to securely transfer ownership to a disposal company should state thier intentions and those collecting otherwise protected by default.

    This is the kind of lesson that this economic disaster will tell whether we like it or not.

    1. Re:All reverse in Argentina by Tastecicles · · Score: 2

      On a related note: National Geographic did a show about Rio residents (I think it was Rio, ICBW) who live and work on the municipal dump which is easily the size of the city itself and right next door. They survive by recycling practically everything from rags to plastics to food (growing their own on composting heaps), many do well enough to provide for their families.

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  14. I work in a restaurant by SilentDissonance · · Score: 2

    I work in a restaurant. I owned one for a while, too. I can tell you, there are those that want the stuff. The company I had taking mine away, at first, charged me to do so. Another company approached and said they'd charge less, they got into a bidding war with each other. Ended up having it done for free. At the time, I believe it was going into C4 production. Now, at the restaurant I work at, the gentlemen who delivers our mushrooms takes it, and actually PAYS us for it (in the form of an extra box of mushrooms; product we'd use anyway). They use it to keep their 'cave' system at ideal temps, we get free product and free removal of something we have no use for. Win/Win.

  15. Re:Alice's restaurant? by budgenator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would you steal from Alice's restaurant when you can get anything you want there?

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  16. Biofuel Thieves? by mpaladini · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was making Biodiesel back in 1996 when Josh Tickell was driving his Veggie Van across the country making big news. Frankly that was the death knell for us as individuals who made their own BioDiesel. I went for years without ever buying a bit of fuel for my car. All the restaraunt folks called me MacGyver and marvelled at my Diesel Mercedes that smelled like french fries. Once BioDiesel caught on as a commercial idea, the recyclers that used to charge the restaraunts for taking the grease started paying for it and locking the restaraunts into "Contracts", and putting locks on the grease containers. It is now a crime to take any grease from a "Griffin Industries" grease tank (the major recycler here in Tennessee), and because of the contracts, the restaraunt can't even give it to you before they put it in the tanks. The contracts are worded such that once the grease comes out of the fryer, it is the property of the recycler. Once something becomes commercially viable, the individual is screwed. I ended up selling my fuel proccessor and getting out of it because I couldn't get any waste oil/grease. The recyclers pay way more for it in order to discourage us from buying it directly from the restaraunts, at least they did back when I was doing it. It may be different now that have run us all out of making our own fuel. In addition, the price of the chemicals went through the roof as well so now your cheaper off to buy dino-diesel, at least if you were doing it for cost reasons. Back in the 90's I was making a 50 gallon batch of BioDiesel for about 50 cents a gallon. Whats happening now I suppose is that some of my brethren are taking it from the grease tanks at restaraunts. Of course now the recyclers can burn you at the stake for that since they can nail you for larceny, transporting biowaste, etc. And they will nail every one they catch to the wall just to make an example of them because they know that there is a lot of us out there. I saw the writing on the wall and refocused my energies towards electric vehicles, solar, geothermal etc. At thats not against the law... Yet....

    1. Re:Biofuel Thieves? by Tastecicles · · Score: 2

      re: your last point.

      No, solar isn't illegal yet, but what it is, is prohibitively expensive. At current prices for panels against wholesale per-kWH line energy prices, a grid-feeding solar setup (3-5kW) runs around the £8k-£14k mark depending on the size of the installation, and you can only get it if you own your home - renters need not apply. At that rate it would take anything up to 25 years to pay for itself providing it performs as expected, in an ideal world. In practical terms this equates to more like 50y ROI. There are Government subsidies for getting SPV and STA (Solar Thermal Arrays) but applying for these seems to involve live animal sacrifices.

      For me, it suffices that I have a solar plant charging batteries for small devices such as notebooks, flashlights, mp3 players, etc., with a gel acid pile for night storage.

      FWIW, the UK Government's "Feed In Tariff" is a blatant encouragement for homeowners to generate their own electricity. My question is; that being the case, why can't I generate my power using RITEG?

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  17. Re:Alice's restaurant? by KingAlanI · · Score: 3, Funny

    excepting Alice ... but then we're talking rape, not regular theft

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