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Canary Islands Eruption Could Create New Land

wanzeo writes "An undersea volcano is erupting off the coast of the Canary Islands, bringing the potential for new land formation. The lava peak has grown 100 meters from the ocean floor, and is now just 70 meters from the surface. It has been seen ejecting rocks from the sea and producing jets of water 20 meters high. Increasing seismic activity has been monitored since July, an indication that magma is rapidly moving toward the surface. Local residents have been evacuated because of the potential danger from falling rocks or violent steam explosions if the lava gets too close."

93 comments

  1. Dibs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dibs on the new land!

    1. Re:Dibs! by Compaqt · · Score: 2

      SeaLand II, here we come!

      Seriously, though, I will anoint you King if I can get a duchy out of the deal.

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    2. Re:Dibs! by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1, Informative

      Finally, a place for Peter Thiel's libertarian paradise!

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    3. Re:Dibs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you read the tag line? I reproduce it here for your waking mind, although it was already in your subconsciousness:

      Posted by Soulskill on 08:19 AM November 13th, 2011
      from the i-call-dibs dept.

    4. Re:Dibs! by jimicus · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're far too late - a bunch of British expats have already bought the land and started the process of getting planning permission to build themselves villas and a shopping centre.

    5. Re:Dibs! by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      only if it's passed from the left-hand side.

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    6. Re:Dibs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh monkey dick. Stroke it yoke it toke it. Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    7. Re:Dibs! by philpalm · · Score: 1

      Doesn't the land belong to the first person who steps on it? Maybe a group of folks are planing to plant a flag there?

    8. Re:Dibs! by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny enough, that already happened. In 1811 a similar underwater eruption near the Azores archipelago caught the eye of a captain of a HMS Sabrina, a British warship. After noticing that the underwater volcanic eruption formed a small island, HMS Sabrina's captain decided to claim it for Britain through the cunning use of flags, in essence stealing portuguese land from under them and thumbing the nose at the Portuguese crown, which also happened to be an allied state. They named the new island Sabrina island and proceeded to have a diplomatic row over this small episode. In the end the joke was on Britain, as the newly formed island crumbled into the sea.

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    9. Re:Dibs! by sa1lnr · · Score: 2

      Expats?

      Isn't that Brit speak for job stealing foreign immigrants. :)

    10. Re:Dibs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Expats?

      Isn't that Brit speak for job stealing foreign immigrants. :)

      Of course not. Those are hard working British emigrants. No similarity whatsoever.

    11. Re:Dibs! by laejoh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cunning use of flags? The captain's name was Baldrick?

    12. Re:Dibs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jingo

    13. Re:Dibs! by erick99 · · Score: 2

      Is there international law to deal with new land? I would be curious to know if that is the case. If land popped up in the middle of the ocean, well outside whatever countries consider to be within their own waters, how could one go about claiming the land? By the way, I don't want any land - I have a hard enough time keeping a townhouse with a tiny front yard and tiny backyard maintained.

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    14. Re:Dibs! by sreilly.net · · Score: 1

      Given that the first link is a German website, I guess the whole nation are just waiting to get their towels down once it breaks the surface.

    15. Re:Dibs! by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

      Funny enough, that already happened. In 1811 a similar underwater eruption near the Azores.

      While this island lies clearly within the territorial limits of the Canary Islands (Spain) the question of Lo'ihi is not so certain.

      Lo'ihi is still some distance (~969 meters) below the surface, but growing steadily, and when it breaks the surface it will be 30km from the Big Island in Hawaii, which is well outside the US claimed 22km territorial limit. The chances of the US allowing anyone else to claim it are slim to none, but the precedent set in 1811 would pretty much assure the US will have boots on the ground before anyone else gets a chance.

      While Hawaiian volcanoes are typically slow growing, Lo'ihi is thought to be fed by the same lava plume feeding the Mauna Loa and Kilauea volcanoes. Should the plume find easier going to the east, Lo'ihi could draw upon pretty vast resources and grow much faster.

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    16. Re:Dibs! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Expats?

      Isn't that Brit speak for job stealing foreign immigrants. :)

      Yes, those British cannot speak proper Hindi, I find them impossible to understand.

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    17. Re:Dibs! by blackdropbear · · Score: 1

      See it, Raise it.

    18. Re:Dibs! by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      Do you think this volcano might shake that bit of rock loose and sink the USA?

      https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Megatsunami#Canary_Islands

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jlaiJRwU6Q

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    19. Re:Dibs! by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      Considering that the wiki article says the eastern US coast would be inundated, I guess the thing to do would be to buy land 20mi inland.

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    20. Re:Dibs! by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Give that Island a flag, Islands love flags.

    21. Re:Dibs! by Cheeko · · Score: 2

      Even if it DOES grow much faster, you're still talking faster in Geological terms.

      It will be thousands and more likely tens of thousands of years before Lo'ihi breaks the surface.

      Also (was on the big island not 2 weeks ago) while visiting I the USGS site in Volcanoes National park, the prevailing belief is that long term Lo'ihi will merge with the big island as another peak the way Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea already have.

  2. Hands Off! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  3. Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are volcanic islands so who would have though a new volcano could create new land!

    1. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >These are volcanic islands so who would have though a new volcano could create new land!

      Is tfa stating there were people voicing contrary beliefs? Duh, indeed. What a bunch of know-not-about-volcanoes! Idiots!

    2. Re:Duh! by mikael · · Score: 1

      And it had the cheek not to apply for planning permission, provide an environmental impact study or seek internaional partners for the venture. The land should be confiscated and put under control of an international supervisory body until ownership rights can be established.

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    3. Re:Duh! by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      You never know, maybe it was actually created by Kali.

  4. Buy Land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I thought that was the one thing they weren't making anymore of.

    1. Re:Buy Land by murr · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I wonder what real estate agents on the Canary Islands are going to say now.

    2. Re:Buy Land by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I wonder what real estate agents on the Canary Islands are going to say now.

      Get it while it's hot?

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    3. Re:Buy Land by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I wonder what real estate agents on the Canary Islands are going to say now.

      Get it while it's hot?

      Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

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    4. Re:Buy Land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I wonder what real estate agents on the Canary Islands are going to say now.

      Get it while it's hot?

      Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

      Unless they warm up to the possibilities!

    5. Re:Buy Land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All real estate purchases should be made with a cool and collected mind. Any other approach may leave you blowing off steam.

    6. Re:Buy Land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The financial problem with impulsive land purchases, is that the real estate lawyers always take atoll.

  5. Assange should buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It could be useful.

    1. Re:Assange should buy it by dougisfunny · · Score: 1

      Buy it from whom?

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    2. Re:Assange should buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do they allow burial of executed criminals in arbitrary places?

  6. How far off shore? by TooTechy · · Score: 2

    I read the articles, and it's possible I missed something, but how far away from the existing land masses is the eruption and in which direction? All I saw was a vague mention of "South" at some point.

    Anyone?

    1. Re:How far off shore? by benjamindees · · Score: 1

      off the Canary Island of El Hierro

      I would guess one of the large undersea ranges to the South.

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    2. Re:How far off shore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I read the articles, and it's possible I missed something, but how far away from the existing land masses is the eruption and in which direction? All I saw was a vague mention of "South" at some point.

      Anyone?

      Sure, between 2.6 and 3 km south of "La Restinga", "El Hierro" island

    3. Re:How far off shore? by kwark · · Score: 3, Informative
    4. Re:How far off shore? by TooTechy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thanks!

    5. Re:How far off shore? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      Nice, currently modded 'informative'.

      How about this - TFA has some beautiful pictures including nifty maps and satellite views. Even a computer generated 3D view of the sea floor.

      Outstanding!

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  7. Cause? by jamesl · · Score: 4, Funny

    I blame global warming.

    1. Re:Cause? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is clearly a case of man-made global warming!
      Al Gore will make sure this land goes back where it came from - to Earth!

    2. Re:Cause? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You'll be able to blame global warming when the sea will have had swallow it again.

    3. Re:Cause? by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      no no, its ok, this is where he is going to banish manbearpig to

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    4. Re:Cause? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, you crazy zealots! If anything, this is incontrovertible proof against global warming: according to the GW crowd, the sea levels are supposed to be rising, but if that were true, how can new land possibly be revelaed from the sea? Explain that with your precious 'science'!

    5. Re:Cause? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      The outpouring of magma/lava is clearly an attempt by the planet to overcome the global COOLING.

    6. Re:Cause? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a response to Regan firing all those air traffic controllers.

  8. Useless prediction. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's going to be some MAJOR geological activity over the next year...

    Alot of the plates of have been more active than usual lately.. A big slip is going to happen real soon somewhere in the world and we'll ALL notice.

    doooooooooooooom. place your bets.

    I've got $50 on the US west coast.

    1. Re:Useless prediction. by khallow · · Score: 1

      I've got $50 on the US west coast.

      Keep making that bet, possibly for a few centuries, and you'll be right.

  9. Not so far from Cumbre Vieja by djmurdoch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The eruption is near the island of El Hierro, about 90 km south of the volcano Cumbre Vieja on La Palma. A few years ago Cumbre Vieja was in the news as a possible source of a mega-tsunami that would devastate the west coasts of Africa and Europe and the east coast of North America. Wikipedia has the story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja. The problem is that the volcano is unstable, and it could collapse and dump 500 km^3 of rock into the ocean.

      Hopefully 90 km is far enough away not to bother it...

    1. Re:Not so far from Cumbre Vieja by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully 90 km is far enough away not to bother it...

      According to seismological reports perhaps we should be bothered
      "La isla (Hierro), que cuenta con 500 conos volcánicos, ya ha experimentado más de 10.000 temblores en los últimos cuatro meses"

      http://universitam.com/academicos/?p=14107

      Don't miss the video on the same page showing the "birth" of the new island

    2. Re:Not so far from Cumbre Vieja by Anynomous+Coward · · Score: 2

      From that site:

      No se sabe en este momento si Ryanair, famoso por volar a los aeropuertos fuera de la ciudad, planea abrir una ruta a la isla recién nacida.

      LOL.

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    3. Re:Not so far from Cumbre Vieja by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      I checked Travelocity, they don't appear to be booking any of those flights at this time.....

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    4. Re:Not so far from Cumbre Vieja by DrXym · · Score: 1

      You can't book Ryanair through other websites. You have to do it through their own site, running the gauntlet of nickel and diming that transforms your "free" flight into one costing 160 euros. If Ryanair did launch a service to this godforsaken volcano they'd advertise it as Gran Canaria with small print explaining that breathable air, fire retardent clothing & rescue was a €300 surcharge.

    5. Re:Not so far from Cumbre Vieja by RockDoctor · · Score: 2

      A few years ago Cumbre Vieja was in the news as a possible source of a mega-tsunami that would devastate the west coasts of Africa and Europe and the east coast of North America.

      And from some of that satellite imagery in the photo gallery accompanying TFA, you can clearly see why : the concave collapse scar that makes up the NNE coast of the island ; the corresponding scar making up the SW side. The ESE side doesn't have a clear concave shape, but in the digital elevation models that give the topography in images 9 and 10 of the photo gallery you can see arcuate ridges in the landscape on that side. To me that reads "collapse scars" too.

      IIRC, from notes on a volcanology course I attended on Tenerife earlier this year, there are clear signs of in excess of 20 major landslip events around the Canaries.

      The problem is that the volcano is unstable,

      ALL volcanoes are unstable, until they erode/ collapse to be level with their surrounding landscape. It's in the nature of being a pile of material with additional material being injected into the centre of the pile. Can you think of a counter-example of such a construction process that doesn't result in an unstable edifice? I can't, unless you look at the trivial case where the material viscosity is low enough that the edifice can't support itself and simply flows away.

      it could collapse and dump 500 km^3 of rock into the ocean.

      Which can be said for any volcano with a volume of more than 500 km^3 and which is in the ocean.

      Please note that this doesn't necessarily mean that there has to be X (for any large X) km^3 of rock above the sea surface. An undersea collapse that relocates (say) 100km^3 of rock from (say) Lo'ihi seamount off the Hawaiian coast, to a position spread out on the seabed 50km away and several km deeper, will still *move* sufficient km^3 of water from one point to another to generate tsunami at the surface. You don't need to dump rock into the ocean.

      (About 9000 years ago, something like 3500 km^3 of soft sediment relocated from the edge of the Norwegian continental shelf into the deep Atlantic ; the tsunami deposits have been found up to 30m AMSL in my area (which influences my house-buying options) and as far away as the Netherlands-Belgium-German border around 100km inland from the present coast. The "Storegga Slide" ; look it up.)

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    6. Re:Not so far from Cumbre Vieja by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoosh....

  10. Leshp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody else read that and immediately think Leshp? Or do I read too many discworld books for my own good?

    1. Re:Leshp? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Anybody else read that and immediately think Leshp?

      No, because it happens relatively often and at reasonably predictable locations.

      Or do I read too many discworld books for my own good?

      I'm not sure that is physically possible, at least with reasonable medical care. Drip feeds and catheters.

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  11. Suck it, meting continental shelf! by hal2814 · · Score: 1

    Suck it, melting continental shelf! We'll volcano our way out of rising sea levels!

    1. Re:Suck it, meting continental shelf! by johnck · · Score: 1

      it's time to go out and get 20 crates of orange soda to celebrate

  12. More information by Sduic · · Score: 2

    Data Update 13/11 – 12:20 UTC : - Joke reports ups and downs. NO jacuzzi, but a brownish stain coming up now and then. NO magmatic material (at least not visible) in the stain area. - The stain coloring cannot be seen on the webcam. Joke stands 150 meter above the sea level and has a better view over the sea.

    Data Update 13/11 – 12:15 UTC : Webcam live again (eruption camera not stable – wind instability or technicians working on it)

    Data Update 13/11 – 10:38 UTC : - Joke has arrived at the Naos viewpoint and reports that a new stain is forming approx. or on the location of the former jacuzzi. The new stain is brownish at the inside , green at the ourskirts and a layer of foam at the edge. - she also says that people currently in La Restinga are reporting a strong gas smell

    Data Update 13/11 – 10:27 UTC : - 10 (volcanic) earthquakes since midnight. The strongest one being a 2.7 magnitude earthquake. - The depth varying from 18 to 23 km (only -10 km depth would be a very important new event) - GPS deformation (the change of the surface because of the pressure of the magma) is relatively unchanged, which is one of the indications (in combination with harmonic tremor) that the eruption i probably still going on.

    Source

    Incidentally, what are the chances they'll just end up with an atoll? Would this land rush be damp squib?

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    1. Re:More information by alphatel · · Score: 3, Funny

      Data Update 13/11 – 12:20 UTC : - Joke reports ups and downs. NO jacuzzi, but a brownish stain coming up now and then. NO magmatic material (at least not visible) in the stain area. - The stain coloring cannot be seen on the webcam. Joke stands 150 meter above the sea level and has a better view over the sea.

      Data Update 13/11 – 12:15 UTC : Webcam live again (eruption camera not stable – wind instability or technicians working on it)

      Data Update 13/11 – 10:38 UTC : - Joke has arrived at the Naos viewpoint and reports that a new stain is forming approx. or on the location of the former jacuzzi. The new stain is brownish at the inside , green at the ourskirts and a layer of foam at the edge. - she also says that people currently in La Restinga are reporting a strong gas smell

      Data Update 13/11 – 10:27 UTC : - 10 (volcanic) earthquakes since midnight. The strongest one being a 2.7 magnitude earthquake. - The depth varying from 18 to 23 km (only -10 km depth would be a very important new event) - GPS deformation (the change of the surface because of the pressure of the magma) is relatively unchanged, which is one of the indications (in combination with harmonic tremor) that the eruption i probably still going on.

      Source

      I'm sorry but the whole thing reads like reporting from a flatulent fat man's bathtub.

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    2. Re:More information by chill · · Score: 3, Informative

      Incidentally, what are the chances they'll just end up with an atoll? Would this land rush be damp squib?

      Zero. An atoll is made up of coral, not volcanic rock.

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    3. Re:More information by Jimme+Blue · · Score: 4, Informative

      Incidentally, what are the chances they'll just end up with an atoll? Would this land rush be damp squib?

      Zero. An atoll is made up of coral, not volcanic rock.

      I believe that answer is actually much greater than zero (possibly 1.00), depending upon the the allowed timescale. Coral atolls are formed on top of old volcanices.

      From the last the last of the following links:

      "In 1842 Darwin explained the creation of coral atolls in the southern Pacific Ocean based upon observations made during a five-year voyage aboard the HMS Beagle from 1831 to 1836. Accepted as basically correct, his explanation involved considering that several tropical island types—from high volcanic island, through barrier reef island, to atoll—represented a sequence of gradual subsidence of what started as an oceanic volcano. He reasoned that a fringing coral reef surrounding a volcanic island in the tropical sea will grow upwards as the island subsides (sinks), becoming an "almost atoll", or barrier reef island, as typified by an island such as Aitutaki in the Cook Islands, Bora Bora and others in the Society Islands. The fringing reef becomes a barrier reef for the reason that the outer part of the reef maintains itself near sea level through biotic growth, while the inner part of the reef falls behind, becoming a lagoon because conditions are less favorable for the coral and calcareous algae responsible for most reef growth. In time, subsidence carries the old volcano below the ocean surface and the barrier reef remains. At this point, the island has become an atoll."

      http://www.eoearth.org/article/Atoll
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_Hawaiian_volcanoes
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atoll

    4. Re:More information by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, what are the chances they'll just end up with an atoll? Would this land rush be damp squib?

      Zero. An atoll is made up of coral, not volcanic rock.

      Jimmie Blue thinks the probability is (approaching) 1.0.

      As a geologist, I'd say that the answer is not so simple. It's like breathing.

      A coral reef is formed where the rate of accumulation of material from the growth of corals outpaces the (effective) loss of material due to subsidence of the edifice into the seabed (and the seabed rising very slightly to accommodate) ; however a volcano forms when the rate of accumulation of (volcanic) material exceeds the rate of loss to marine erosion moving material down the slope onto the seabed (raising the level of the seabed slightly ; sounds familiar?).

      When the volcano reduces it's activity (which it is likely to do, witness the movement of the Hawaii chain over their hotspot ; the Canaries situation is less clear, because Africa seems to be moving much more slowly), growth of coral may be sufficient to keep pace with the subsidence of the volcanic edifice. But from my observation of the vigour of coral growth around Tenerife (not very vigorous), I rather suspect that in this specific case, the coral would be unable to build up into an atoll. I'd put the odds at around 1 in 4 (0.25), but that's little just an educated guess.

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  13. Where's the video? by bogaboga · · Score: 1
    In cases of news such as this piece, I have personally come to expect some video. Is it too much to expect in this 21st century? Heck, the eruption:
    1. Is still taking place
    2. Has the potential of historical importance
    3. Isn't happening in a place so remote
    4. Is near the so called rich lands on planet earth

    Come on shoot some video and let's witness history.

    1. Re:Where's the video? by diegocg · · Score: 4, Informative

      Somthing like this?

    2. Re:Where's the video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The event is taking place about 100m below the sea level, so it is not visible, at least by now.

      The eruptive event is off shore, south "El Hierro", and there is a cam focused on the area: http://hierroendirecto.movistar.es/

      But another eruption is expected in the north within days

    3. Re:Where's the video? by fermion · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points I would mod this funny. It would be like shooting a video of the snail race.

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    4. Re:Where's the video? by Sphenostasis · · Score: 1

      Here you can find two webcam views from El Hierro:
      http://www.globale-evolution.de/elhierro%20webcam.php#ui-tabs-1

      Some webcams in Iceland that give a hint about how beautiful the landscapes are in that country. You can find there one webcam view on the famous and hardly pronounceable Eyjafjallajökull that recently disrupted the european air traffic:
      http://live.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/

      Note that the Katla and the Hekla are far from being small ones.

      Some more webcam views about the Katla & the Hekla:
      http://www.ruv.is/katla
      http://www.ruv.is/hekla

      Enjoy!

    5. Re:Where's the video? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points I would mod this funny. It would be like shooting a video of the snail race.

      Oh, like this?

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    6. Re:Where's the video? by wanzeo · · Score: 1

      Yes! Mod parent up. That should be in the summary!

  14. This Land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes... yes. This is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... This Land.
    I think we should call it... your grave!
    Ah! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

  15. Artificially created islands? by BlueCoder · · Score: 2

    Makes me wonder if it might be possible to exploit weak spots in the earth crust to create islands artificially. Second I wonder how safe it would be.

    But suppose instead of destabilizing the crust you instead you just drilled down to the magma and pumped it out? If you could build a piping system that
    could pump magma under cold ocean without clogging up the pipe that is... Forget about super conductors... what about super insulators at high temperatures?

    Maybe in a couple hundred years... Should be possible to create the equivalent land mass of Hawaii in a few different places in the worlds or to at least double or triple their the land masses of existing islands within a ten year controlled period.

    And for places like Yellowstone maybe even create a few mountains nearby to relieve the pressure.

    1. Re:Artificially created islands? by diegocg · · Score: 1

      Are you a scientist?

    2. Re:Artificially created islands? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Makes me wonder if it might be possible to exploit weak spots in the earth crust to create islands artificially. Second I wonder how safe it would be.

      But suppose instead of destabilizing the crust you instead you just drilled down to the magma and pumped it out? If you could build a piping system that
      could pump magma under cold ocean without clogging up the pipe that is... Forget about super conductors... what about super insulators at high temperatures?

      Maybe in a couple hundred years... Should be possible to create the equivalent land mass of Hawaii in a few different places in the worlds or to at least double or triple their the land masses of existing islands within a ten year controlled period.

      And for places like Yellowstone maybe even create a few mountains nearby to relieve the pressure.

      Pump out all that magma???? We will have more catastrophic plate shifts and earthquakes. Just as we have with oil removal today. The sea water that is pumped in is not same temperature or density, as the hot oil oil under great pressure, that is removed

  16. MR bond things are about to get hot for you by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    MR bond things are about to get hot for you!

  17. Cobra Island in the 80s by witherstaff · · Score: 1

    If I remember the GI Joe Comics made Cobra island through bombs being dropped at strategic places. And then they did something truly evil - they used lawyers to make it their sovereign nation.

  18. Photos of another occuanace by drumlight · · Score: 1
    A few years ago a yacht crew took photos of a volcanic island rising out of the sea. http://yacht-maiken.blogspot.com/2006/08/stone-sea-and-volcano.html

    I was about to go on a sailing trip when I saw the photos and although there was no chance of seeing something similar in the Mediterranean it did get me excited about the amazing things you can see on our planet.

    1. Re:Photos of another occuanace by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      although there was no chance of seeing something similar in the Mediterranean

      As a geologist thinking about "interesting things to do" for next year's holiday, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the possibility. You'll have to (sorry!) keep your ear to the ground to find out where the interesting stuff is, but there are (more or less) continuously active volcanoes in the sea north of Sicily (loosely associated with Mt Etna ; but the geology there is complex!) where the possibility of new islands being created at any particular time is not zero. Small probability in any 2-week holiday, but not zero.

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  19. Title should've been by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Coal mine in a Canary...

  20. A fresh update. by hensto · · Score: 1

    This just ticked in like half an hour ago. There's webcam links in it, but I can't spot anything yet. http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/view_news/2441/El-Hierro-volcano-Canary-Islands-Spain-continuing-earthquakes-and-tremor-feed-speculations-about-a-s.html

  21. Better article by Smallpond · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Wired article from last month has better pictures and more information

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/10/el-hierro-eruption-continues-but-not-likely-to-form-new-island/

  22. Be afraid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatsunami#Canary_Islands

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jlaiJRwU6Q

  23. Santorini is grumbling too. by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
    Santorini, the volcanic island in the Aegean Sea allegedly responsible for the collapse of the Minoan civilisation in it's 1760BCE eruption, is grumbling on it's northern eruptive axis which runs through the submarine "Kolumbus" volcano.

    That was one of the things that got me back into SCUBA - Kolumbus is (when last reported) only 60m below sea level, which is within the credible reach of recreational diving. (OK, you'd need to be on mixed gases, and probably on a CCR, but it's do-able!) I like the idea of meeting real live hot spring communities when diving.

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    Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
  24. Google Earth .KMZ file by Smask · · Score: 1

    I made a simple Google Earth Keyhole Markup file with all quakes this year with a magnitude of 2.0 or greater on the Richter Scale

    http://www2.tripnet.se/~fredrik/hierro.kmz

    The information were gathered from Instituto Geográfico Nacional's web page: http://www.01.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaFormularioCatalogo.do

  25. How can rocks fall from new land rising from the sea?

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    I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
    1. Re:Hmm by RockDoctor · · Score: 2
      (1) they can fall down the submarine slopes. Just because the fluid they're falling through is inimical to your particular respiratory equipment, doesn't change the fundamentals of the situation.

      (2) As with the generic model of a volcano (typically envisioned as a strato-volcano, though this is actually a parasite cone on the flanks of a hybrid of shield- and strato-volcano), rock as magma and fragments of pumice is being injected at a central point on the volcano, then falls away down the flanks with little regard for whether the highest point of the edifice is in water or air.

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      Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
  26. Updated Google Earth .KMZ file by Smask · · Score: 1

    Updated the file to current and included all magnitude 1 quakes (+6400 events). I added time stamp data so you can play with the animate tool in Google Earth. Set the replay speed to slowest and the Start/Stop time to cover two days.

    http://www2.tripnet.se/~fredrik/hierro_2011-11-15.kmz