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Ask Slashdot: Building an Assistive Reading Device?

RulerOf writes "A few years ago, my girlfriend's grandfather was diagnosed with Macular Degeneration. Ever since, he has had progressively more trouble with daily activities. While his wife and family are able to help him with most things, at the age of 88 and without many living friends left, he dearly misses the ability to read printed text. He was able to get by for some time with magnifying glasses and other basic aids but now even those do not help. Recently, a local clinic which specializes in treatment for low-sight and blind individuals made him aware of and showed him several assistive reading devices that successfully allowed him to read. He mentioned this to his family members, and when I was told about it, I thought that these devices sounded like they were not much more than a camera attached to an LCD monitor or television with a little bit of special software thrown into the mix." (Read on below for more.) RulerOf continues: "Some investigation online turns up products such as these, and their prices are so prohibitively high ($2400-$3000) that the manufacturer won't even list them on their website. Furthermore, the effects that these devices can apply to the pictures they output look awfully similar to the effects filters built into many webcams, and the ability to zoom and pan a live view of the screen is something that I've done effortlessly for years on OS X, and that I know exists in many Linux desktop environments. My current plan is to try to build something like this with a used Mac Mini, a Logitech HD Webcam with a full-screen view of the camera always up, and a Magic Trackpad to control zoom level and screen position, plugged into a huge LCD TV that he already owns. Have any of you ever built something like this? Am I wrong in thinking that the ease of use would be comparable to the purpose-built devices when configured correctly? Is this something that might work better with a newer nettop device, a digital camera or camcorder, and Windows (where I'm skilled at automating things) or Linux at the core instead?"

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  1. I know someone you should talk to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of my work colleges is working on an identical project. You two should talk. Email me at jasonmac404 atsymbol gmail .... and I'll put you two in contact.

    1. Re:I know someone you should talk to. by anubi · · Score: 2

      May I suggest a laptop with a USB microscope?

      http://www.saelig.com/product/VI021.htm

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    2. Re:I know someone you should talk to. by SQLGuru · · Score: 2

      My wife's granddad had an old computer. We went for a cheap solution. I pointed a cheap web cam down towards the desk. Added a second monitor. Put some "tap" lights to illuminate the area. And set the software to be really big.

      He's got one screen for his work (Excel, etc.) and the second monitor shows whatever is in view of the web cam. It only cost me about $30 to get the lights, web cam, and cheap second monitor.

  2. How about Audible books ? by sandhill · · Score: 5, Informative

    If the goal is to be able to read beloved old books that he already has etc, then sure, go for it. But if it's just the desire to be able to enjoy books, then the library available on Audible.com (and others), is fantastic. They're not your old 'books-on-tape' ... great selection, very good readers, and it's very satisfying to have someone read to you. If you've already got the computer and internet service, please check it out.

    1. Re:How about Audible books ? by egranlund · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also, Librevox the free alternative - doesn't have nearly as large of a selection though.

    2. Re:How about Audible books ? by RulerOf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Audio books are a good alternative for certain, but when I brought up the idea, his desire is specifically to read printed material. I suspect that, when even assistive devices no longer cut it for him (if it gets to that point, of course) that audio books may be more amenable at that time.

      I'll bring it up again though, because it is still a very good point. Thanks!

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    3. Re:How about Audible books ? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2

      Also, I find far too many librevox volunteers sound like they're doing it as practice in an ESL class.....

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    4. Re:How about Audible books ? by hazem · · Score: 2

      It's also worth checking the local library to see what they have. Mine has thousands of audiobooks (mostly on CD/mp3-cd) at the main branch and many many more through other branches in the system, plus free access to libraries on worldcat.

      I only ever have to buy the audiobooks I want to keep for myself.

      If you're on a budget, the library may be a better option than audible.com, especially with the DRM that doesn't allow use on anything but Windows (and probably Mac).

    5. Re:How about Audible books ? by Jim+Hall · · Score: 2

      As another poster has mentioned, MD will eventually result in total loss of vision. So do encourage him to explore audio books.

      But I think I know where your girlfriend's grandfather's is coming from on the audio book topic. Not every book is released in audio format, so you're kind of tied to only those titles that have an audio version. The latest cool book may take months to get an audio version, if at all. Also note that magazines, product instructions, medicine labels, etc. do not have audio versions. So having an assistive reading device is part of maintaining his independence.

  3. This may help..... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 3, Informative

    It might be worthwhile to post this over at makezine.com. Nothing those crazy makers love more than a challenge. Good luck! Maybe some enterprising person can get something mass produced via kickstarter.com

  4. Lighthouse by LoudMusic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://lighthouse-sf.org/

    Surely his doctors have mentioned these people?

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  5. old time radio by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 2

    This isn't reading, but for entertainment he should look at old time radio. Old Time Radio
     
    Thousands of marvellous radio plays as mp3's, no reading required.
     
    Just the thing for long trips in a car or commuting, too.
     
    Westerns, detective stories, comedies, it's all there. And it's free and legal, too.

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  6. classroom tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The big crazy right now in classrooms is document cameras (glorified webcams on stands with lights) you can get a basic model that should work just fine for about $300-$400, avermedia makes a pretty good one. Then just hook it to a TV, large screen or projector with a VGA cable. Plus when that time comes and you need to figure out what to do with the device when the time comes, just donate it to your local school (tax write off).

  7. Re:Kindle DX by hawguy · · Score: 2

    If he's looking to purchase new books to read - what about a Kindle DX with the font size jacked all of the way up?

    When I first started thinking about it, a tablet or an e-reader such as the kindle was my very first suggestion. The problem with it was that, on a 10" screen, he needs things zoomed so high that he may only be able to view a single sentence at a time. The camera/monitor approach preserves the dead-tree look and feel (and the UI, hehe) but adds the ability to enlarge the text.

    Wouldn't be a bad idea if there was a 24" kindle, though :)

    How about the Kindle App on a PC plugged into a big monitor (where "big" is anywhere from a 22" to a 60" or larger LCD or Plasma TV)?

    Add a wireless keyboard and/or Mouse for control.

  8. Ebooks on a dedicated laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    When my dad got macular degeneration, I got hold of an old laptop, put linux on it, and set it up so that it loaded fbreader on booting. My dad had never used a computer in his life, couldn't see the keyboard, and wasn't interested in learning how to use a PC. But I put sticky red rubber buttons on the keys he needed to navigate fbreader. After some experimentation, we figured out big white writing on a black background worked well, put a load of ebooks on it, and away he went. He found it very easy to use, and never needed to worry about how the computer worked. He used it a lot, and although he started listening to audio books too, he much preferred being able to read on screen. My dad was into science fiction, and we took up Baen Books' offer of free ebooks for the disabled (see http://www.webscription.net/t-disabled.aspx) so he didn't even have to pay for books.

  9. Re:Kindle DX by hawguy · · Score: 2

    If he's looking to purchase new books to read - what about a Kindle DX with the font size jacked all of the way up?

    When I first started thinking about it, a tablet or an e-reader such as the kindle was my very first suggestion. The problem with it was that, on a 10" screen, he needs things zoomed so high that he may only be able to view a single sentence at a time. The camera/monitor approach preserves the dead-tree look and feel (and the UI, hehe) but adds the ability to enlarge the text.

    Wouldn't be a bad idea if there was a 24" kindle, though :)

    How about the Kindle App on a PC plugged into a big monitor (where "big" is anywhere from a 22" to a 60" or larger LCD or Plasma TV)?

    Add a wireless keyboard and/or Mouse for control.

    Oh, and one more Kindle suggestion:

    Depending on his tolerance for monotone computer generated speech, try the Kindle text-to-speech function to read books to him. Not nearly as good as a human voice with emotion and pacing that match the text, but I've used it to "read" some books on long car drives.

  10. Re:Apple devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't know why this has been modded down, it's very true. Much as I (20-400 vision) would prefer an Android device, this is something that Apple have done a pretty good job on, and my iPhone has been an invaluable accessibility device to me. The iCanSee app has become my magnifying glass that I take everywhere, with the added advantage of being able to invert the colours.

  11. Magnification is not the answer by audacity242 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The long-term result of macular degeneration is that he will lose the ability to focus on anything in the center of his vision, and will eventually hit the point where he only has (blurry) peripheral vision. When this occurs, he will not be able to read at all. Any items which magnify text will be a very temporary solution for him.

    Focus on finding audio solutions that work, spend time researching them and then becoming familiar with using them, because anything you create now that magnifies text will be very quickly obsolete.

  12. Look no further - knfb reader and JAWS by synthespian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check this out:

    I just checked the facts now, and Ray Kurzweil (AI + future-tech guru/genius/entrepreneur/benefactor/cyborg ) has a whole company specializing in assistive reading technologies.

    K–NFB Reading Technology

    http://www.knfbreader.com/

    The original OCR reader for blind people he developed is presented here:

    http://www.knfbreader.com/products-classic.php

    This product is no longer in development, because they have moved to using cell-phones (you just gotta love this cell-phone age we're in). BTW, don't waste your time looking at products made by people without the expertise in this field of AI and assistive technology. You need a real solution for a real problem...

    For reading and using the computer, advanced software exists (Windows platform - don't let anyone make you waste your time with open source, it's not for grandpa - yet). If he can identify elements in the screen and is able to locate where text is, he can just use something like TextAloud.

    As macular degeneration progresses, though, he will want to move into software specifically tailored for the blind. In fact, I would suggest getting acquainted with the following software before total blindness. JAWS is the major-league player in this category.

    http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/jaws-product-page.asp

    I wish all the best for your girlfriend's grandfather. Tell him he's not the only in that situation and that there are solutions out there.

    I hope this helps.

    May you score many Internet Points points with your future father-in-law, too ;-)

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  13. Blind OSS users use orca. by Detaer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Open source screen reader http://live.gnome.org/Orca This package can be used to operate a computer for people who are totally blind, read content etc etc.

  14. VoiceOver in Mac OS X? by mattack2 · · Score: 2

    You already mentioned Mac OS X for screen magnification, but maybe he can learn to use VoiceOver, which is also built in.

  15. AccessWorld Magazine by nbauman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a magazine about assistive devices for the visually impaired that's having a special on-line Q&A event this very week:

    http://www.familyconnect.org/calendar.asp?EventID=2955

    Ask the AccessWorld Experts! Special Online Event November 14-18

    Dates: 11/14/2011 - 11/18/2011

    AccessWorld iconFamilyConnect and AccessWorld Magazine are excited to announce a special opportunity for families to interact directly with some of the foremost authorities on accessible technology—from cell phones to ebooks, screen readers, classroom adaptations, and more.

    Simply visit FamilyConnect's Ask the Experts blog anytime from November 14-18 (Monday-Friday) and leave your questions or concerns in the comments. Our team will be on hand to respond to your inquiries.

    AccessWorld's accessibility experts include:

            Lee Huffman
            Tara Annis
            Brad Hodges
            Janet Ingber
            Deborah Kendrick
            J.J. Meddaugh
            Ike Presley
            John Rempel

    This one-of-a-kind opportunity allows families to have their questions and concerns about assistive technology addressed by leading experts. Join us November 14-18 for this exciting online event!

    Contact: Lee Huffman

    E-Mail: accessworld@afb.net

    URL: http://www.familyconnect.org/experts

    And here's AccessWorld:

    AccessWorld
    Technology and People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired

    http://www.afb.org/aw/main.asp

    I knew some people at the American Foundation for the Blind. At that time, they had a research department of a couple of engineers creating assistive devices. You might contact the AFB or other blindness organizations and find an engineer to talk to. You might well find somebody who will be enthusiastic about your project.