Slashdot Mirror


Raspberry Pi PCB Layout Revealed

An anonymous reader writes "Yesterday, the final Raspberry Pi printed circuit board (PCB) layout was revealed. The word 'packed' comes to mind as this is one very complicated looking board. The reason for that is just how much Raspberry Pi has strived to save money on the machine by using complex routing to keep things small and cheap. The Raspberry Pi team don't believe the design is going to change again unless they missed something. With that in mind, they revealed the final board is exactly the same size as a credit card, measuring 85.65 x 53.98mm."

10 of 112 comments (clear)

  1. Screen and keyboard? by lordmetroid · · Score: 5, Funny

    How am I going to use this computer without a screen and keyboard?
    I demand a credit card sized keyboard and screen!

    1. Re:Screen and keyboard? by vlm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How am I going to use this computer without a screen and keyboard?

      I demand a credit card sized keyboard and screen!

      Thats called a "cell phone"

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
  2. Complicated? by thoughtspace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Huh? What's complicated about that board? Looks pretty normal.

    1. Re:Complicated? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would go as far as to say that looks like one of the simplest and least complicated designs I've seen. Also it should be noted that small and cheap compete with one another. Cheap things they that cost space- fewer routing layers (components & traces often need to be farther apart for impedance & via room), using larger components (0402 or bigger generally), not using blind/buried vias, using routing space for power. Small things they did that added cost- front/back side assembly, through hole components on a mostly SM design.

      It looks like a fairly simple design. I'd try to get rid of the through-hole stuff unless it's just debug, that adds a step in mfg which can raise cost and also causes place keepouts to eat up valuable real-estate.

      The post should have raid "Board layout review, all slashdotters attend".

    2. Re:Complicated? by ebenupton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Would be great to get all the components on the top side. Unfortunately, you pay for that in extra track length between the SoC decoupling caps and the BGA balls. I believe Beagle and Panda both do this with their OMAPs, and (mostly) get away with it, and we may investigate it in a later revision; in general departing from datasheet recommendations makes me queasy, even for a chip I worked on...

    3. Re:Complicated? by Savantissimo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yet other manufacturers don't take that attitude. Go look at TI or Analog devices. Full datasheets right there, often running to hundreds of pages reasonably priced development boards, often free samples. Broadcom claims to have features such as DSP and GPU built in to this chip, but I don't know what use they are supposed to be if they are totally undocumented. Supposedly about 98% of the FLOPS in this thing are in the GPU, but good luck getting at them.

      --
      "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" - Patrick Henry
  3. complex routing ? by alvieboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At first glance, this looks like a normal routing with a 4-layer board. Eventually 6, if you add proper ground + power.

    There's nothing indicative of PCB parameters, like drill sizes, clearances, blind/buried vias, minimum trace width, so on. Again, a simple look reveals nothing but common parameters for PCB.

    Again, TFA is biased.

    1. Re:complex routing ? by ebenupton · · Score: 5, Informative

      As I understand it, the biggest challenge was escaping a 0.65mm BGA without using significant amounts of HDI on a 6-layer board, while keeping good solid power and ground planes and large (i.e. cheap) track and gap specs. Relax more or more of those and it is indeed trivial - our alpha boards were done in about four days by doing exactly that.

    2. Re:complex routing ? by ebenupton · · Score: 5, Informative

      Off the top of my head, we save around a buck at 10K-off through a combination of 6 layer, coarser T&G and limited HDI. Figures for UK manufacture; YMMV in elsewhere, particularly in the far east (where cutting edge volume manufacturing is much easier).

      The particular stack-up we've chosen is only one possible cost minimum; I've heard it suggested that 8 layers with zero HDI is quite competitive for 0.65mm BGA.

  4. Re:Repeat much? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot has become an RSS feed for the Raspberry Pi blog

    Yes, how dare a site that claims to be 'news of nerds' cover a project to build a cheap computer designed to be interesting for school-aged nerds to play with? I demand more Apple stories, and political news!

    --
    I am TheRaven on Soylent News