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Google Music Goes Live With Google+ Integration

angry tapir writes "Google Music, the company's cloud-based online music service, is now available to all users in the US and includes song and album sales, as well as an integration with the Google+ social networking site. Introduced in test form and by invitation only in May as a cloud-based song storage and playback service, Google Music will also let users buy albums and songs from all major music labels, except Warner."

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  1. Just what market needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The collection is impressive, as is the freedom (yes, it will also work with iOS devices), along with integration with Android.

    I have two sources for digital music - Amazon mp3 and now Google Music (not counting other channels). More choices, more competition.

    And good to see a better alternative to itunes (yuk!).

    (Now get on with your Google hate - that's the flavor of the month here on slashdot these days)

    1. Re:Just what market needed... by CmdrPony · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why would I use this when I can use Spotify? For that matter, Google Music doesn't even work outside US, which is incredibly stupid as it is your own collection of music, not some streaming service.

    2. Re:Just what market needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spotify doesnt have everything i have in my collection. Spotify also requires software be installed, gmusic is browser based which makes it more workplace friendly for me.

    3. Re:Just what market needed... by agent_vee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your entire collection of music available, browser based (no installation needed), no ads, unlimited streaming, mobile access on android and iphone with offline listening, and it's FREE!

    4. Re:Just what market needed... by MikeyO · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because spotify costs money (I either have to pay a monthly fee, or I have to buy a copy of windows or a mac or so). They say this is because they haven't figured out how to display ads on linux yet. Oh and you can't store music locally on linux. This doesn't doesn't sound like the type of software I'm psyched to pay for. Oh even though I might be paying for a "premium" account. It would be unsupported...

    5. Re:Just what market needed... by Tr3vin · · Score: 2

      Yes, you can download the MP3s from Google Music. Unfortunately, they limit you to two downloads for each song, but on the plus side they are 320kbps encodes. I think something similar is true for Amazon, but I have never used that service.

    6. Re:Just what market needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Your entire collection of music available, browser based (no installation needed), no ads, unlimited streaming, mobile access on android and iphone with offline listening, and it's FREE!

      Umm, didn't you already have the ability to sync your music files to your phone? How many gigs of music do you really need to carry around? How much is just packrat/hoarding mentality? ("omg, what if I want to listen to my Englebert Humperdinck albums while taking a long walk alone on the beach, even though I live in Wyoming?") If you're a luddite and have an iPod instead of an Android phone, is there any benefit at all to letting Google scan your hard drive?

      Google Music requires me to install a program that scans my hard drive looking for music, and it seems to keep a list online somewhere of the music I have. Is this not asking for trouble? Is this not asking for abuse by the RIAA's goon squads? Is this not going to open the door at least to the possibility of a major abuse of privacy with legal and financial implications? "Don't be Evil" isn't reassuring enough for that kind of risk, especially when the only benefit from the risk is the convenience of sharing music with an Android phone (which I don't have).

    7. Re:Just what market needed... by oakgrove · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Umm, didn't you already have the ability to sync your music files to your phone? How many gigs of music do you really need to carry around? How much is just packrat/hoarding mentality?

      At any one time, I might only want a few songs from my collection. The thing is that list will change from day to day. Now with Google Music on my Xoom, my cellphone and my desktop, I don't have to worry about the hassle of "syncing" between them all. It just works.

      Google Music requires me to install a program that scans my hard drive looking for music, and it seems to keep a list online somewhere of the music I have. Is this not asking for trouble?

      Are you going for the Glenn Beck rhetorical question award? He probably has that patented you know. Good thing you logged in AC.

      the only benefit from the risk is the convenience of sharing music with an Android phone

      And your tablet, and your pc, and your tv if you have more than a cable box attached to it. It also syncs with all of your devices automatically with no further intervention. Why are you so against this? It seems like the logical conclusion of my data being every I want it to be without me having to worry about it.

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    8. Re:Just what market needed... by oakgrove · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As long as your music collection is really small

      You can fill your Google Music with 20,000 tracks. That is not "really small" by 99.999 percent of people's definition. I don't think that will be a problem. People on Slashdot trolling? That's still a problem.

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    9. Re:Just what market needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why are you so against this? It seems like the logical conclusion of my data being every I want it to be without me having to worry about it.

      Because:
      a) there's an army of barbarian lawyers at the gates screaming that it's not my data;
      b) the logical conclusion of my data being where I want it to be doesn't need to include Google or anyone else having a copy of my data: while that's a possible conclusion, it's not the only possible conclusion, but rather one that guarantees a loss of privacy;
      c) it's linked to all of Google's other information about me, and this is being compiled at a time when Google is expressly attempting to build identity verification into their services.

    10. Re:Just what market needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You should register with the Pirate Bay. They offer free accounts, no bandwidth limit restrictions, no geolocation restrictions, they have a wide variety of musical genres and selections to choose from and you can even download music from Warner Brothers, no questions asked and no premium service fees required. And best of all, none of the multimillionaire executives of the RIAA are getting rich off of this service.

      Register today for the best Internet based music service in the industry:
      https://thepiratebay.org/register

    11. Re:Just what market needed... by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now get on with your Google hate - that's the flavor of the month here on slashdot these days

      Wait. What?

      Seriously?

      What Slashdot are you reading?...

    12. Re:Just what market needed... by bemymonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I mostly have FLAC music, and transcoding every time I sync to my phone is a pain. Figuring 500MB per album, I can only fit so and so much on a 32GB memory card (about 16GB of which is filled with other junk anyway)... and then when the mood strikes, the album I'd like to listen to usually isn't on my SD card. Google Music or Subsonic are great for those situations...

    13. Re:Just what market needed... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      Amazon MP3 used to be a download-once deal, IIRC, but since they've launched their "Cloud Player" thingy, they seem to be having unlimited re-downloads.

    14. Re:Just what market needed... by Sosarian+Avatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, just like those silly paranoid students that thought their universities might release their personal info in response to RIAA/MPAA demands -- oh wait...

      Seriously, consider it this way:
      1. Google wants people's real-life name, cellphone number, in some cases they've demanded a driver's license or state ID; they freely hand over information when any government agency in the US (and many other countries) requests
      2. The RIAA has a reputation for going overboard in identifying, harassing & prosecuting anyone that may have downloaded illicit copies of songs, not particularly caring that they've repeatedly been caught targeting obviously innocent people
      3. Our government currently favors the "rights" or well-being of corporations far more than citizens (innocent or not)

      So when Google offers to host personal libraries bound to hold plenty of files (some of which are illegally downloaded or could only be obtained by illegally circumventing DRM), you figure the RIAA won't take advantage of it, Google won't hand the named member's personal info over, and the government won't play along? You should revise your signature, most people with a real cognitive impairment would know better...

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    15. Re:Just what market needed... by moronoxyd · · Score: 5, Informative

      Google Music doesn't even work outside US, which is incredibly stupid as it is your own collection of music, not some streaming service.

      I'm German, living in Germany and guess what?
      I have Google Music on my Android phone... AND IT IS WORKING!!!
      The web interface too.

      Sure, I probably can not buy music via Google Music, but I don't need to. There are enough channels to get my music from.

      Oh, and Spotify isn't available everywhere as well. And you seem to need a Facebook account, which I don't have nor want.

    16. Re:Just what market needed... by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 2

      And how many of those 20000 tracks were purchased? Assuming an average cost per song of 50c (it's normally higher), that's $10000 worth of music. If you're prepared to spend that much money on music, I'm not sure a free hosting service is the right tool for the job.

    17. Re:Just what market needed... by xaxa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Assuming you have some space on your computer to store the transcoded files, I wrote a Makefile to transcode music to solve this. I can't access it right now, but I use a very similar Makefile for keeping all my photographs (at low resolution) on the phone, which is really useful for annoying people with holiday snapshots. I just changed it to work with music files.

      ~/.toPhone/Source/ (symlink to my photos)
      ~/.toPhone/Albums/ (this is rsynced to my phone with rsync for Android)
      ~/.toPhone/Makefile

      PHOTOS = $(shell find -L Source/ -type f -name '*.jpg')

      SHRUNK = $(patsubst Source/%.jpg, Albums/%.jpg, $(PHOTOS))

      PNGS = $(shell find -L Source/ -type f -name '*.png')
      SHRPNG = $(patsubst Source/%.png, Albums/%.jpeg, $(PNGS)) .PHONY: all
      all: $(SHRUNK) $(SHRPNG)

      Albums/%.jpg: Source/%.jpg
                      @mkdir -p "$(@D)"
                      convert "$<" -resize '800x800>' -quality 40 "$@"
                      @touch -r "$<" "$@"

      Albums/%.jpeg: Source/%.png
                      @mkdir -p "$(@D)"
                      convert "$<" -resize '800x800>' -quality 40 "$@"
                      @touch -r "$<" "$@"

      Then it's just:
      nice -n 20 make -j 4

    18. Re:Just what market needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      itunes (yuk!)

      He accused Slashdot of hating on Google, while obliviously hating on Apple.

    19. Re:Just what market needed... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2

      Why do I need Google Music when Amazon works with every device, has no DRM and is accessible in other countries. Between that and Spotify (which also works on Android and iOS) I don't need to consider a service that may or may not disappear in a year or two.

    20. Re:Just what market needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're a luddite and have an iPod instead of an Android phone

      ... that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  2. US Only :-( by SlightOverdose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    *Sigh*. Yet another fantastic music service not available in my country.

    1. Re:US Only :-( by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

      Still no Google Voice here in Canada either.

    2. Re:US Only :-( by BatGnat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's almost as if Google is a U.S. company or something.

      What about the rest of us?

    3. Re:US Only :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      bittorrent

    4. Re:US Only :-( by SlightOverdose · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Proxies and VPNs are a pain in the arse to use, and I certainly don't want to be buying music only to lose access to it because Google closes the loophole. (It's like a game of whackamole sometimes, as many services will block known proxies and VPNs to stop this happening).

      I presume once it's out of Beta they'll work at bringing it to other countries, so here's hoping it eventually makes it to Australia.

    5. Re:US Only :-( by future+assassin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't feel so bad when it comes to Canada it'll be stalled by beurocracy and the telcos then they'll cry that its unfair to them since its a foreign company moving in. Then they'll just drop the data caps for intternet packages even lower.

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    6. Re:US Only :-( by Phurge · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm in Australia, but access the internet at work via US servers. Just tried to buy music through Google Music - but it requires a US credit card. My Australian and UK credit cards didn't work.....

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    7. Re:US Only :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Really? I thought it was Chinese. Isn't that why they spelled Googol wrong?

    8. Re:US Only :-( by swordgeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Let's be clear here. Google has introduced features higgledy-piggledy into Canada, and presumably the rest of the world. Can I hide search results in Canada? No. But I _do_ have to suffer through "auto-complete" and site preview on their search engine. Giving us half of the features is worse than none at all, because it makes things slower without making them better.

      But hey - Google doesn't give a shit, because they're working towards two goals: Market domination and stock price.

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    9. Re:US Only :-( by loyukfai · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but understandably, to fulfil the legal requirement of a country, in particular for music and video, is probably more complex than many of us think.

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  4. Oh I see by Nursie · · Score: 2

    That's why they finally rolled out + access to those of us that use Google Apps, they were about to launch a service requiring money!

    1. Re:Oh I see by oakgrove · · Score: 4, Informative

      Google Music does not require money to store 20,000 of your own songs and stream them on any computer or Android phone/tablet you have handy. I'd say that's quite a deal.

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  5. Re:Copy-and-Paste by aussiedood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you used it? iTunes requires a horribly bloated app installed on your computer and clunky syncing of music between said computer and your iOS device. Google music needs none of this (with the exception of a small app to upload your music you already have to the cloud). I have all 12,500 songs in my collection available to me wherever I am, no need to pick and choose what music to take with me. It was Google took us to the post PC world that Jobs kept pontificating about.

  6. Still US only by wik33 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When Google will spread the service globally?

  7. Have YOU used iTunes lately? by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Informative

    iTunes requires a horribly bloated app installed on your computer and clunky syncing of music between said computer and your iOS device.

    No, currently you download music anywhere and all your devices have access to that music at once, wherever they are... you see all the playlists from any device, if a song is not stored locally then you can simply ask to download it.

    Some of that is made better with Match, since it will upload and store for you songs not in iTunes.

    I'm not sure Google's music offering could really be more pleasant to use than this... It's great that they have this as an alternative but they are just basically barley keeping up with Apple at this point. Do they even have the same deal where they will make any of your ripped songs available over the cloud also?

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  8. Re:Copy-and-Paste by NameIsDavid · · Score: 2

    iTunes Match does, yes. And tracks with under 256kbps that exist in the iTunes store are replaced with 256kbps AAC versions.

  9. Yes. by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Does iTunes let you upload, store and stream your own music?

    ITunes with Match does.

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  10. Gee, that's nice by Fned · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google Music will also let users buy albums and songs from all major music labels, except Warner.

    Will they let users buy albums and songs from other Google+ users who record their own albums and songs?

    1. Re:Gee, that's nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, in fact they will. Artists can upload their own music and sell it.

  11. Only in the U.S. by echusarcana · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Only in the U.S.... so really, who cares?

    Last I checked, pirating music was way easier than buying it legitimately and no one cares which country you are in. Could the music industry, just perhaps, stop being a joke?

    1. Re:Only in the U.S. by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Never? I'm sure the masses of kids these days have figured out the same thing. Pirating is easier than buying it, especially when it's free. Well there goes another generation.

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    2. Re:Only in the U.S. by Rennt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Forget about the guys at the top...it's the hordes of young adults with stars in their eyes who suffer most from piracy.

      That's like saying the people who suffer the most from abolishing sweatshops are the sweatshop workers. It's also a load of crap.

    3. Re:Only in the U.S. by Sosarian+Avatar · · Score: 2

      ...it's the hordes of young adults with stars in their eyes who suffer most from piracy.

      Actually, artists make almost all of their money on concerts and tangible non-musical items like t-shirts, because the music publishing industry takes such a large cut of each sale. Source: http://bit.ly/DigitalRoyalty -- which doesn't mention that before they get any return on sales at all, artists have to sell enough to cover whatever advance they were given & costs they owe.

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    4. Re:Only in the U.S. by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 2

      Tell those struggling amateur musicians that do not have a record deal, that "Shock horror" they don't need one .... ...Go get a PR company to promote your music on iTunes, and Amazon, and arrange and advertise concerts, and the record company can make those curious black and shiny wheel shaped things that no-one buys anymore

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  12. Fucked again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Spotify, Amazon mp3, Google music; all not available in Australia. iTunes charging so much that it's usually cheaper to buy the physical CD from America and have it shipped across the friggin' ocean. Well, at least there's Grooveshark ... until SOPA closes it down.

    1. Re:Fucked again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know what Google Music is charging. The point is that buying from iTunes in America is apparently much cheaper than buying from iTunes in Australia (even when our dollar is stronger). This is because there is absolutely no competition here in the downloadable music space. They only have to set their prices to compete with domestic CD retailers.

    2. Re:Fucked again by Namarrgon · · Score: 2

      It's OK, now we have Zune ;-)

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  13. Re:Copy-and-Paste by neonmonk · · Score: 2

    Please explain why you assume it must require Flash? Baseless assumptions.

    The audio format is mp3 @ 320kbps. Wrong again.

  14. Re:Copy-and-Paste by PNutts · · Score: 3, Informative

    iTunes requires a horribly bloated app installed on your computer and clunky syncing of music between said computer and your iOS device.
    Google music needs none of this (with the exception of a small app to upload your music you already have to the cloud).

    It's not really a comparison you can make. iTunes does more than upload music into the cloud so I'm not sure how you arrived at "bloated". I'd list everything it could do but I'd sound like a cheerleader and I'm not sure it would make a difference. I'll just leave it at it's a dessert topping and a floor wax.

  15. What's with all the music services lately? by dingen · · Score: 2

    I really don't get the enormous amount of new music services that have arrived the last few years. Doesn't everybody who cares about music have his favorite stuff on his computer & phone already? What's the use of yet another service that plays everything you already have on all of your devices already?

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  16. Re:Copy-and-Paste by oakgrove · · Score: 2

    Poor codec? You can tell the difference between an mp3 encoded at 320 and whatever hypothetical other codec you seem to think isn't "poor"? Bull.

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  17. Good grief by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    This whole thread seems like "Super Smash Bros., Cloud Music Edition".

    Google Fanbois versus Apple Fanbois.... FIGHT!

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  18. Re:99 cents an album! by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Informative

    That would be a success, but it's actually $0.99 - $1.29 per song.

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  19. Re:Copy-and-Paste by dingen · · Score: 2

    But it still makes no sense to use MP3 in this day and age. If it's quality you're after, why don't go lossless and enjoy perfect quality? Yet if it's efficient use of bandwith you're after, why not use a codec that actually manages to get the best sounding music in the least amount of bits? I still fail to see how the choice of MP3 at 320 kbps is anything but, like I said, worse of both worlds.

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  20. The way they'll kill the dinosaurs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A lot of people have missed one of the most important things about this announcement. Indie musicians, without a label, can sign up, sell their music, and keep 70% of the sales revenue.

    For years, we've bemoaned the RIAA and the giant labels for screwing artists out of their fair share. They're parasites controlling the distribution channels and deciding what pop-artist of the year they'll be pushing down our throats. Artists are lucky to get into the double digit percentage of sales revenue for their music, instead of pennies for a $20 disk.

    If a talented indie artist or band can put their music on Google Music and get comparable exposure to the artists pushed and promoted by the large labels, it will drastically change the dynamics of the artist/label relationship. Evaluation of music by merit instead of marketing might. There will be a viable way to make a living without signing over one's soul and rights to a label.

    This cuts out the traditional middle men in the music production process, and that's what terrifies the RIAA.

    Google has the money to buy out the major labels, but instead of doing that, they made a very shrewd strategic decision to instead use the advances in technology to democratize music distribution. That's big, and that shouldn't be underestimated.

    1. Re:The way they'll kill the dinosaurs by Celarent+Darii · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not true, anyone can sell their music on itunes. Takes some doing, but it's not that hard. Would probably recommend a service do it for you however, like this
      article states:

      http://www.garagespin.com/2009/03/09/7-ways-sell-your-music-on-itunes/

    2. Re:The way they'll kill the dinosaurs by Zebedeu · · Score: 2

      I think the point is that with the Google offering you get a huge installed base, and great integration with the software and devices people are already using.
      It's the same benefit that integrated app stores had for indie developers.

      I'd never heard of Indietorrent or Bandcamp before. Granted, I don't look for much new music these days, but I guess that makes me a good representative of your average music listener.

  21. Either way by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Do you have to download the song then listen or does it start streaming as soon as you click it like Google Music?

    You can do either - if you just click on it, it will start playing. Or there is also a "cloud" icon for any song not on the device, that you can opt to download it to your device and have it for times you don't have network access.

    If you swipe to delete a song from the device then it gets deleted locally and returns the song to "cloud" status.

    Also, does this service cost money or is it free like Google Music?

    iCloud is free, and does what I mentioned for any song that you have bought through iTunes using your account.

    What is not free is Match. That takes any songs you have not bought through iTunes, uploads it into iCloud, and then from there you can access it anywhere just like any other iTunes purchased song. That costs $25/year I believe, if you quit all it should mean is your ripped songs are not backed up in iCloud for easy access.

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  22. Re:Copy-and-Paste by dryeo · · Score: 2

    Probably portability. MP3 works in most any player whereas AAC doesn't.

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  23. Do they have lossless formats? by Undead+Waffle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm still resisting buying digital music until they start selling in a lossless format like flac. For some reason no major stores are willing to do this. I want my high quality archive copy damn it!

  24. Here's what one music professional said by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    "well, sadly i'm currently 280 songs over the 20k limit for Google Music. i feel like i first did way back when i realized it wouldn't all fit on my 64GB iPod. something about the completionist/archivist in me just doesn't want to bother uploading anything if i can't have it all."

    This is a quote from a person who has his own successful band and who also designs and builds websites for bands more successful than his, using Drupal. Most of them are so done up you can't detect the Drupal in them. You've heard of the bands whose sites he does, but if I told you, that would be outing.

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  25. Re:99 cents an album! by mtmra70 · · Score: 2

    Google should have a 99 cent album each day.

  26. Re:Copy-and-Paste by Tim+C · · Score: 2

    Well on Windows it has a couple of services running in the background whether it's running or not (presumably to provide the "launch iTunes when you connect your iDevice" functionality, amongst other things), requires Quicktime and tends to try to bring Safari along for the party, so in that sense it's bloated when all *I* wanted it for was to get music onto my iPod.

    Sure, it does a lot more, but if you don't want those features then *to you* they're just bloat.

  27. I'd love to dump on this idea, but... by Jawnn · · Score: 2

    ...if Facebook has shown us anything, it's that people love to "share", as in "inundate us incessantly with all the things they 'like'", be that snapshots, links, friends, etc. People also love to share their music. No, not as in file sharing, but rather as in "Dude, I love this song. Let me crank it up for you..." Couple those to phenomenon on one technology platform and see the wave that will finally sweep RIAA's vision of music distribution away for good.

  28. Re:Copy-and-Paste by kiwimate · · Score: 2

    Perhaps it's not a fair comparison, but I agree that iTunes is terrible. I would suspect that the "bloated" allegation came about because it's a bit like Microsoft Word - it could be a simple, fast, easy to use word processor, but it has thousands of features when most people only ever use a very small subset of core functionality.

    Same with iTunes. My main complaints are that it's slow as molasses, and is horribly clunky. In contrast to the "it just works" philosophy, iTunes doesn't. Example: our devices have been registered to three computers over the years. You're only allowed five. I'm only using one of those computers, but I can't unregister the other two because they both died. How do I tell iTunes this? Beats me.

    The simplest operations are far too complicated, it doesn't follow any standards for usability, and so hardly anything works the way I expect it to work. Half the time I can't even figure out how to do what I want and I end up giving up. Connecting multiple devices is a nightmare. Multiple Apple store accounts on the same computer? Worse than being eaten by zombies. It...just...doesn't...work.