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Climate Panel Says To Prepare For Weird Weather
Layzej writes "Extreme weather, such as the 2010 Russian heat wave or the drought in the horn of Africa, will become more frequent and severe as the planet warms, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) warns in a report released today. Some areas could become 'increasingly marginal as places to live in,' the report concludes. Critics of the report note that 'Governments have in the past considerably weakened the language of IPCC summaries for policymakers,' and that the IPCC process tends to water down even the most obvious conclusions."
I'm in central Europe and it was 50 years since it was this bloody cold here! There's going to be snow on Christmas, and I'm not too sure I like that!
All Himalayan glaciers will have melted before the Christmas.
This is the same IPCC that said we wouldn't have any glaciers by 2010, or icesheets, or that the northwest passage would be open to traffic(never mind it's been open to traffic since it was first charted). Or that there would never be snow again on various mountains, and so on and so forth. Or that we'd all be dead what was it this year? Or is it next year? I can never keep it straight with all these doomsday predictions from all these environmental groups, and government backed organizations.
sorry but as long as I can play my sega cd, I don't care.
Never mind about what we said about the hot weather, just get your mittens and coats ready when solar magnetic decline and solar minimum freeze (y)our rears off in 2020...
climate panel will say anything to justify its existance
the weather is still the same here as it was 40 years ago
Will it also make some places more habitable?
Would becoming 'increasingly marginal as a place to live' include the Gulf of Mexico being taken over by a large, year-round, standing hurricane?
I guess this latest release is in spite of the data. Check the chart showing temps from 2001 to 2011. It's about half way down the page and the temps are statistically flat.
First it was "Global Warming", then when it became obvious that wasn't happening it was "Climate Change".
Now it's just "Weird Weather".
Luckily fewer and fewer people believe any of this rot any more.
You would do well to consider that flooded server rooms may have an adverse impact on the IT infrastructure.
Same can be said for production facilities. Take the recent example of Thailand floods causing an hard drive shortage that is steadily driving prices up.
Adverse weather will only make things gradually more challenging, requiring more technical know-how and workarounds to deal with it.
Scientists aren't taking into account that our Solar System actually orbits around another Solar System some call The Milky Way Galaxy and none have taken into consideration that passing nearby celeastial bodies as well as passing through regions of devious electromagnetic and other phenomenon would surely influence our Solar sun in ways that would pass said influence onto the planets in orbin including Earth.
There is just too much "new" to ever call any matter as predictable. I think the Geothermal activity is causing more global warming than anything in the atmosphere. Comparing another Planet like Mars to Earth is an example how Mar even with a dead core is much more habitable than Planet Earth because Earth has so-much sea water insulating the the hot core from scorching the surfact. Foremost, it's already a known fact that Planet Earth is experiencing Global Warming just like all the other planets whom are having much more detectable levels of erupting volcanoes so that is proof alone that there is some thing influencing the Solar System much more than Carbon output.
At an average mean and equal temperature, yes? I mean, every location on the planet should have the same temperature range, right? We would not want anyone to have to migrate to another area to live, because of course our ancestors never had to do that, right?
I think we've past the tipping point already. At the least, I don't think we can change our habits enough to prevent climate change at this point, so...
I think we need to start planning for the aftermath of all of this, and do as much as we can in preparation for those changes. Unfortunately I don't think we will, and all I can see is a lot of people needlessly suffering for it all.
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We already have weird weather. It's the end of November and it's 15C outside (I can't put a degree symbol because the slashdot janitors have made an arse od input parsing). It reached a deep low of about 8C earlier in the month. During the summer, the temperature varied between -2C and 26C in July.
Yesterday I was seeing wind speeds of up to 90mph in gusts and 60mph sustained, and today it is flat calm. In January we normally see sustained 120mph winds, but this year they were only about 90mph.
Although it's flat calm and warm and sunny now, in as little as ten minutes the weather could go to a hailstorm with high winds and the cloudbase at about treetop height, then clear up just as soon as it came.
Up here, this is all perfectly normal. It's just what it's like here.
"Weird weather", is it? Well, we'll see.
I'm in New York north of NYC, and Hurricane Irene passed through in August this year with rain the likes of which I have never seen outside of Florida. Then we had over 6 inches of snow before Halloween. Neither of which I have seen in my 40+ years of living here. Also, another strange thing I noticed; when I was a young kid all the leaves were off the trees by oct 31st, but that is getting later and later. Now it's at end of November early December before the trees are bare. In fact there are still quite a few leaves on the trees now. I am not sure why that is. When that early snow storm came through, it was a disaster because if the snow sticking to the leaves and making branches very heavy. We had widespread power loss. Lastly, spring and fall are very short now in terms of temperature. So indeed it think the weirdness has begun.
Because of global warming there is more heat in the atmosphere and more water vapor as well. That will lead to more energetic weather. This is an expected result.
fucking numbers, Lit8e is straining
Seriously, here it is.
We engage the warp drive on the hemp production. We will suck every drop of carbon out of the atmosphere with it. Seriously, we have our number one oxygen scrubber growling like a weed. Once upon a time hemp grew like a weed. It was a damn weed and it would grow out of control. It's a pain in the ass if you want to grow corn crops. It makes great rope, in fact we enacted farmers to grow hemp for the war effort. Then we said...no..no more hemp.
It seems the cotton industry hated it. Here is a WEED that people go grab for fibers then that they could weave for themselves cloths and such. Coupled with corn farmers they lobbied it as an evil South of the border thing. And they did their best to eradicate it. It also turned out that the jazz and blues musicians were smoking it in all of those wrong kind of places to be seen at as a decent Christian sort. They were able to demonize it even more with their lobbyists. Preachers thundered on about it, etc.
But lets look at the facts of the matter. This plant has some amazing qualities to it aside from deer and rabbits wanting to eat it like it's a delicacy to them. The seeds of this are from what I understand can be distilled into a petroleum. Yes, I thought that as well. Petroleum? Seriously?
Petro is a hydrocarbon. Correct? What do we have floating about fucking up our atmosphere? Carbon? What thrives on this stuff in the air? Plants? How about a plant that will chew this stuff up and store that carbon in it's seeds as energy for it's babies. Imagine harvesting those seeds for that hydrocarbon? Then you have a very strong fiber resulting from the harvest as well. There are various grades of this fiber to work with. First being very long strong straight strands, then of course pulp fiber which can be pressed into parchment paper such as what the US Constitution is wrote on. Imagine the image quality of a high quality ink printer photo on a paper that ages like our Constitution. I can't get that at Office Max, can you? Let me know if you do, I want to print off pirate maps on some. Arrgh!
Here is the solution. You legalize and authorize hemp production in the US. It has to be licensed and monitored by the Ag department, not the DEA. Don't worry, stoners will not be growing weed in it or near it. They will cry if they do because it will be allowed to massively pollinate with Midwestern native hemp, which will drop the THC levels into the ditch weed category. Not to mention it will become seedy as FUCK. Everyone hates seedy pot. If you go to smoke pot and there is a seed in the pipe or the joint, BOOM! I have seen seeds blow up in a pot pipe someone was smoking and blow all the pot out of it and give them a face full of burning weed. It wasn't like a grenade, it just startles the living crap out of them when it happens. As a kid, I would get a seed, hollow out the tobacco of a cigarette, drop a big fat juicy seed in it, then repack it. We've all sabotaged a smoker like that before, right?
As I digress...
Those same "blow the fuck up in your face, so you better clean them out, NOOB" seeds are the ones that you run through a high pressure roller press and collect the oil. We also have to do this scientifically to appease the most staunch of skeptics. First, it has to be grown by using a strong composing, we can do this by processing a lot of our waste. We can let it process a trashy swampy sewer-ed field into clay, instead of devouring crop land. You just have to engineer the fields according with EPA standards for a land fill situation. It's called, get out the bulldozers time and do some serious earth moving.
We can do some genetic experimentation with this to tweak it to grow insanely big and fast. Plants are amazingly fun to mess with on a genetic level, we have been doing it for quite a time now. We used to call it "breeding". There are an amazing variety of this plant that we can cross breed with. Take for example there is a breed of it in italy that grows 6 inches I day, I would say couple that with so
Take the Red Pill.
Yes, very well said. Also, the corollary: You can believe all you want but the climate doesn't care.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Nobody makes the obvious point.
Some areas could become 'increasingly marginal as places to live in,' the report concludes.
Great. And how is this different from before ? My grandfather left north holland because it became too cold. Before that I'm told that a few dambreaks (presumably caused either by storms, rising sea level, or in the worst case incompetence) cause my family to leave a place between Amsterdam and Zeeland. That's just the last 200 years, maybe less (I only have generations to go on, not years. And there sure were a lot of dambreaks in the 19th century).
This is not an exception. Just read this : http://weburbanist.com/2008/07/06/20-abandoned-cities-and-towns/.
That's again just the last century (and not all climate related, some are though). But going further back there's plenty of stuff. 2000 years ago, the Sahara was lush green forest, filled with civilized black people (not arabs, who since exterminated them) who at one point dared attack Rome, and there was serious concern that campaign might succeed (and it did manage to cast aside 4 Roman legions, 3 in less time than it took the senate to notice their legions were gone, never mind decide what to do about it. They didn't do anything about it). The only reason there are Europeans in Europe is climate change in Eastern Asia. This is not news.
Where do we get the weird idea that climate was constant before today ? Where do we get the massive egocentric idea that it will start staying constant for us ? Gaia is a fickle godess that constantly slays things from houses, to cities, to entire states.
I am not saying that "there isn't something going on", but I do remember being taught how Darwinism categorizes species : adapt ... or die.
The whole strategy that seems to be pushed implicitly here seems to me a strategy that falls squarely in the latter category. Trying to keep things constant is not just a losing strategy, it's the way to extinction.
So the report saying we are all completely fucked is actually criticized because things are much worse than it says?
Haven't seen any recommendations on what would be sufficient changes to reduce the greenhouse gases. IF they were to be implemented, what would these changes be, and how much would be enough?
Build your own energy sources from scratch. http://otherpower.com/
Pollution has effected the environment.You can see it first hand in Alaska.Normal healthy trees have been dying off.This has been a serious problem for years and little has been done about it. Lee Bergeron
im near aegean sea, a place where the climate has to be temperate, and it was 9 degrees celsius here yesterday. and in comparison, stockholm, a city that is next to goddamn arctic circle, was 8 degrees celsius yesterday.
we got cold streak in the middle of summer, hot streak in the middle of winter. we got everything. noone trusts weather or weather predictions anymore.
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Why not use all these storms to our advantage? Surely there must be a way to harness the energy in these storms, building a damn sturdy wind turbine for use in hurricanes. Or making some kind of water wheel of sorts to make some of that falling rain and snow actually do some work for a living, rather than sitting on it's ass for the rest of its life and making us do all the dirty work of moving it.
What does this global warming shit have to do with technology (or geek culture, insofar as those tasteless dweebs can be said to have any)? Why is this crap being reported at Slashdot?
This really comes down to the fact that you have ALL nations not wanting to make economic sacrifices while at the same time, we have China in a cold war with the west via economic means. There are 2 solutions for this:
1) accept that we will have climage change and see where we go.
2) Do something that forces ALL NATIONS TO CHANGE AT THE SAME TIME.
Now, America is NOT going to change unless we see that nations like China, India, Brazil, etc. are going to change. China has already indicated that they will not change. They keep saying that this is about output / person, which is a false measure. So, how to change this? HAVE NATIONS PUT A TAX ON ALL MANUFACTURED GOODS PREDICATED ON CO2 FROM WHERE IT (and parts) CAME from. That tax should rise steadily to give nations time to adjust. OCO2 is about to go up. This sat measures CO2 in the atmosphere. This will give us a true measure of CO2 that is flowing in/out from a nation. That will make it possible for us to have true values to work with. That will almost certainly mean that many nations and even unexpected areas are going to show up as emitting far far more than what they expected. By doing a tax on ALL goods, we will see nations change quickly. The reason is because it is economically better to do that, then not.
The one issue is how to apply it. Many will argue for CO2 per capita. That is one of the WORST measures going. The reason is that nations will cheat in their reporting. In addition, it rewards nations that have not controlled their population. In addition, CO2 output is NOT correlated with populations. Far from it.
I have argued that the fairest and sanest would be per sq km. The reason is that the size of land is fixed and can be seen from space. Likewise Ag is a major CO2 emitter. But probably the worst output is a correlation with economic output. Most of man's CO2 output is far more related to economics.
As such, it makes sense to look at it in terms of CO2 per $ of GPD or CO2 per land rather than per capitia.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Anyone doubting climate change is burying their head in the sand. Its here. Its happened, its happening and it will continue to happen. The best we can do is slow it down and try to minimise the damage that we have already caused. Articles like this shouldn't even be making news. But we have so completely denied the problem for so long. One wonders whos best interests are at heart. Sure the earth is constantly evolving and changing, and this is just part of that evolution. But whos to say whether the end of humanity is not part of that evolution, too. At the very least the quality of life for morst people will be lessened. Yes some places will benefit, but the vast majority of the popultation will not. and we will end up spending more money controling the effects tha prevention would have cost in the first place. But forward thinking doesnt win elections. what a sorry lot we are.
What is new is attribution of severe weather events to human activity. http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2011/20111110_NewClimateDice.pdf
When heatwave deaths are your fault, it is time to take corrective action.
Also, you are incorrect that trying to keep things steady is the way to extinction. This is some Frank Herbert meme but it has no basis. Beavers keep pond water levels constant and do just fine.
What they've just done is say that no matter what happens, it's due to AGW. So you should pay more useless taxes that WON'T be spent on mitigation steps and relinquish more of your liberties to the technocrats.
FTFY as in Fuck that and Fuck You.
It will mean more forest fires, which are very damaging. Not to mention more drought for the prairies. The ecosystems are quite delicate.
It must be true!!
Everyone with half a brain knows there is climate change happening. We have significantly more data than 10 years. In fact, NASA just launch their most advanced climate satellite last week that will give us thousands of terabits of data per DAY! --- not that any of this will mean much to deniers of the scientific process such as yourself.
HUMANS chop down all the forests, HUMANS divert the flow of water on a geologic scale, HUMANS alter local weather patters through massive emissions of pollutants. See a pattern?
Sorry to say, but in the western democracies of the world, the vast majority of politicians and business leaders are not Mensa members. We have the answers now, we just need to tweak a few policies. No 'mensa geniuses' necessary
Last week that should increase weather accuracy from 5 to 7 days. That is progress!
People have known that we'd have weird weather and other events in these days for a long time. Written about 1600 years ago (or, if you don't believe that, in 1829) in the Book of Mormon: "Yea, [there] shall come...a day when there shall be heard of fires, and tempests, and vapors of smoke in foreign lands; And there shall also be heard of wars, rumors of wars, and earthquakes in divers places. Yea, [there] shall come...a day when there shall be great pollutions upon the face of the earth; there shall be murders, and robbing, and lying, and deceivings." (Moroni 8:29-31).
Or, if you prefer the Bible: "And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows." (Mark 13:7-8).
I'm not saying we should encourage climate change, we need to do more to reduce our negative effects on the environment and climate, but people knew this was going to happen, a long time before people understood the science of it (not that we really do yet).
I personally am moving the place known as [MISSING]. It's probably the only place in the world unaffected by climate change and one of the places whose temperature records are used by B.E.S.T. in their ground breaking, earth shattering, unimpeachable sciency thing.
... of vague predictions by the Global warming/climate change group that can't seem to figure out exactly what is going to happen and when and produce quotes that can be used no matter what happens to the weather. Kinda like their recent hurricane predictions. Oh wait .. those didn't pan out.
.. we need to decrease emissions. But until someone somewhere can start making somewhat accurate predictions, I'm not willing to toss our economy down the tubes. We learned not too long ago that wind turbines impact local climate, creating hot spots. Everything we do impacts the environment. Everything any living thing does impacts the environment, THAT is a fact.
Yes
It's been a few degrees (Fahrenheit) above normal in Phoenix this fall, and we have LOVED it. I'd take a few extra degrees in the three months of summer for some of this beautiful weather year the other 9. Some areas may become uninhabitable, but others will become more habitable. I notice the GW/CCG group never balances out the bad stuff with the good stuff, hardly an unbiased bit of reporting there.
Whether or not it is beneficial or harmful is the issue. So some guy in Bongo-Pongo has to move his house on sticks that he has to rebuild every time a hurricane comes through. Or Long Island needs to build a dike and install massive pumping systems like Holland and New Orleans as done. These are costs that can be spread out over time.
Provided that some day, the GWS/CCG folks can actually predict with accuracy when they will be needed. Until that day, I'm doing my best to cut back electrical usage, replace old appliances with more efficient ones as they age, and I even use a CFL or two. I'm even considering looking for a job within 10 miles of my house so I can at least ride a bicycle once in a while and not use as much gas.
But I'm not giving up my truck I drive less than 5,000 miles a year, and when it dies, I will buy a bigger one. Because I need it and use it and enjoy it.
I rarely read replies, it's my opinion and if you thought about your opinion a little more, I'm OK with that.
"Prepare for weird weather" is sort of like saying "your odds of winning the lottery just got worse, prepare to lose more." OK THANKS!!!!
Prepare for weird weather?! Seriously?
Say "prepare for weird weather" at the beginning of every year for all eternity and you'd be spot-on.
Climate is always changing. Weather is always weird. We don't need a panel to tell us the obvious. Please go do something useful instead.
the IPCC can't be specific because they only pull models out of their decades-old immense pile of useless ones after the fact, "cooking the books." They are controlled by agenda of their benefactors.
The IPCC predicted we'd have 50 million climate refugees by the year 2010. Have you seen them, yet?
I'm still waiting for the super hurricanes they predicted a few years ago.
I guess if you predict something ambiguiously enough, eventually it will come true.
"In Search Of... The Coming Ice Age":
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Canada grows a ton of wheat. Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba all have major wheat growing operations (other things too). Some of my cousins are indeed farmers up in Canada. Wheat isn't all that Canada grows, but it is a big crop there.
Great now they can point to any weird weather and say see climate change. Where I live in Nova Scotia there was a mile of ice above where I am now 12,000 years ago. Did the cave men and their camp fires melt all that ice. Millions of years ago it was also hard core jungle. I guess that was caused by dinosaur farts. The climate changes all the time. Get used to it. (Evolve or die.)
Give credit where it is due, Chicken Little, Thailand floods are purely anthropogenic in nature -- a result of deforestation, bad farming practices and non-existing city planning, not global warming.
And you don't think deforestation, bad farming practices and non-existent city planning contribute to global warming? Which could contribute to flooding?
The climate change skeptics on slashdot need to learn some ecology before they go spouting off about what could and couldn't be causes or effects of global warming.
And while I'm ranting, I can't believe the idiots who say they're climate change 'skeptics' because the 'appropriate use of the scientific method' is to be skeptical until things are proven. That's dead wrong. Science is about basing your opinions, and your future tests, on what the current data says is most probable. You follow the data. Systematic skepticism is just as intellectually dishonest as systematic credulity. The only proper application of science to belief and politics is to do and believe today according to what the data suggests is most probable today, while doing your best to prepare more data for tomorrow.
With the conference in Durban fast approaching, 20k attention whores are in full swing again, drowsing the gullible media with a hurricane of alarmism to justify their paid holiday.
I'm not a coward by any name.
If you go back just a couple thousand years and look at weather extremes, you will that some of the swings were worse than today. The Texas drought - there have been Texas droughts that last 100 years! Climate always as changed and always will change and there is nothing humans can do about it but learn to live with. The socialist junk science researchers of today ignore everything no from 1990-2000! The earth has actually been cooling the last 10 years as the BEST data showed. Your local paper might not have told you that as the fraudsters release of the data compressed the graph for the last ten years. His co-author blew the whistle on the lying scumbag.
none of you have a clue, but strangely you think you do!
First of all, as they grow out of the kindergarden & glance at the world, they realize that : ... think Dalai Lama's Tibet & world politics)
1) Generosity/selflessness doesn't pay (mother theresa was basically broke, and most people clapped their hands while stepping aside of the problems she tried to pinpoint
2) The best way to put yourself & significant others out of harm's way (including by birth nation's politics) is to make/have tons of money & keeping an eye on trouble that may head your way
3) Scientists & inventors mostly make ridiculously small amount of money & focus generally very narrowly on their pet fields of interest (thanks to the defunct education systems ever since governments realized 1960s-like litterate people where a danger to their society)
4) Mensa & the like are really only interested in solving *mathematical* puzzles, *not* real-world ones
Having done such this looking at the world, I'd say *really clever* people go on with their lives pursuing careers in business, finance, politics (the fill-your-pockets-with-legalized-bribes version, not make-the-world-a-better-place one). All in all, worthless jobs, considering what they could achieve for the rest of the world.
If one is hoping for *smart* people to fix the accumulated pollution, corruption, intolerance, bigotry, and so forth, I'd guess they are looking in the wrong direction : autistic persons, part-genious (come up with ideas), part-dumb (ignore that it's said to be impossible & forget how the economy is holding everyone's balls) is our best bet, with the *hope* that the amount of people on this planet is not the underlying agenda (Georgia guidestones ?), combined with classified/unnoticed/covert climate-worsening technologies.
Because apparently, no government who is currently blasting the ionosphere and heating it up with the ELF and VLF radio waves intends to stop.. apparently ever, until of course we are all goose meat and they themselves are feeling all cozy, buried 2500 feet down in their 1,000,000 sq ft bunker life support facilities, and playing chess with their grandsons.. and/ or granddaughters. Thank you very much.
Intelligent people can't build a shed, simply becaused they didn't learn how to do it. Given time & books, they'll even understand global energy dynamics (if at all it's a solved problem). Depth of knowledge is intelligence's key; that is schooling system's way.
Clever people will come up with ideas from whatever they used to do & build a sturdied shed using methods, or in places you wouldn't have thought of. Breadth of knowledge is essential there; that is playfull kids' way (and, maybe, 15th century education).
How many uses can you think of for a paper-clip ? Toddlers' can come up with thousands, but current brands of education narrows it down to a few dozens after age 25.
Prepare for 'weird' weather?
Yeah, thats right, the weather is gunna be really weird man.
I'm going to see it, and go 'wow, thats really wierd'. Thanks for helping me get that kind of description in my head. Now when I talk to my friends I'll be like, 'Hey, hows that weird weather, weird isn't it?'.
No.
It's going to be chaos, and death, year after year, getting worse and worse. If those in the media, the think-tanks and the governments, think for a second that the general population will continue to be herded with fluffy language, they are very wrong.
Also, the desert has virtually no life in it compared to anywhere that is not volcanic rock. Even the open ocean has more life whether you measure by number or by volume, due to algae. You can see the life that is there, because there's nothing to hide it. But healthy topsoil can be over 50% living organic material, and it can be many feet deep where plants are permitted to grow up and then fall back down again for many years, e.g. in forests. Both the biomass and biodiversity in any desert deserving of the name would be a tiny blip if you put any healthy forest at the top of the chart.
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When Climatologists can walk on water AND perfectly predict future weather patterns (a higher bar from predicting CHANGE) you will QUIT BEING AN ASSHOLE.
Excuse them for just trying to warn you. I suppose the Smoke Alarm in your house is also inaccurate because it can be confused by kitchen smoke -- might as well throw that out as well.
When the world is perfect, you will then be free to be responsible.
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We want all the global warming we can get as fast as we can get it to help reduce the massive human die off in the coming ice age. Yes the ice age will come, no we cannot warm the planet significantly with CO2 due to the fact we have plants everywhere which convert it back to oxygen. We will want to do even more like figuring out how to release massive amounts of methane and figure out how to lengthen its half life in the atmosphere beyond 7 years. Soon all of Canada and half of the US will be covered in a half mile thick sheet of ice and there will be water to grow crops that is not locked in ice. OR You can do absolutely nothing but waste your own time by lowering your carbon foot print? You decide.
For a fun preview of what we're in for, check out the events of 1315-22.
Im intrigued. Did co2 cause this event as well?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/26/co2-ice-cores-vs-plant-stomata/
The short answer is no. There is some speculation about the causes, but it probably wasn't because of CO2 changes, and certainly nothing like the anthropogenic CO2 loading that we see today. It also wasn't a global phenomenon, but localized to northern Europe. Our data for global climate that far back is very unevenly distributed, though: we know the most about northern Europe, and much less about the rest of the world.
They already are on the edge. And you want to allow them to go worse?!?!?!?
Is it cold in here to you?
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