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Groupon Not Doing So Well On Wall Street

bdking writes "Shares of the daily-deals site were up Tuesday, but Groupon's ride on Wall Street since going public in early November has been almost all downhill. And there's no evident catalyst to reverse the slide." From the looks of it, Groupon is blowing all of its money attempting to expand in the face of ever-growing competition in a market with trivial start-up costs.

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  1. Re:Show me the money by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's simple: They IPO'd. They don't give a shit about their stock price; they have your money. An IPO is always a bad buy-in because they'll do everything in the world to inflate their stock price. The IPO brings cash to the business; then us traders trade little sheets of paper back and forth for some imaginary value, hoping that we can figure out when the value is going to stop going up and then distribute our papers to other idiots, then buy them back when the value is going to stop going down. In this way we get other paper (called money) in greater quantities than the little papers (called stock) that we're trading around.

    Facebook will do this too. They'll IPO, you'll hear singing praises about how this is THE IPO you want to get on--it's friggin' Facebook. You'll see their stock price go up for a day or two after. Then down it comes. LNKD did the same thing.

  2. Business are getting smarter, too by tgd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're starting to realize that Groupon customers don't translate into long-term customers, which makes the value of offering deals on Groupon very low.

  3. Re:Stocks 101 by Demarche · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a sane world, Share price is a function of revenues. Cash flow and profitability should determine stock price.

    There, I fixed that for you.

  4. Re:You're wrong - Groupon is a Ponzi scheme by lucm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > The only thing that keeps them going is (1) the cash infusion from the IPO - otherwise they would have shut their doors by the end of the year, and (2) the money from current sales, which is used to pay off past sales - same as a Ponzi scheme.

    The Groupon business model is lousy, their business have no intrinsic value, but all of this is clear to whoever wants to get a piece of the action. Buying Groupon stock might not be a sound investment, the IPO might be a mere financial tactic on their part to bring in money and cash out, but that does not make it a criminal activity.

    Saying that the Groupon thing is a Ponzi scheme is like spitting in the face of Madoff's victims. Saying that teabaggers are fascists is making fun of the people who were tortured and killed in Mussolini's jails. Saying that my 55 years old neighbor who married a 19 year-old is a pedophile is disrespectful of those who had their 5 year-old abused by the bus driver. Saying that OWS is a revolution is an insult to the people who died to kick out dictators.

    Words are important.

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    lucm, indeed.