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Periodic Table To Welcome Two New Elements

adeelarshad82 writes "Chemistry's periodic table can soon welcome livermorium and flerovium, two newly named elements, which were announced Thursday (Dec. 1) by the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry. The new names will undergo a five-month public comment period before the official paperwork gets processed and they show up on the table. Three other new elements just recently finished this process, filling in the 110, 111 and 112 spots."

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  1. Rejected again! by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will they ever name an element Colbertium, after Stephen T. Colbert, DFA?

    1. Re:Rejected again! by JavaBear · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or Roadrunnium, because it has a half life so fast you won't be able to catch it.

    2. Re:Rejected again! by JavaBear · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course after Roadrunnium, we need Wileeum and Coyotium, though it'll be unwise to put either of those in the vicinity of the highly unstable Ajaxium.
      The proximity of either Eileeium or Coyotium with Ajaxium is known to create a localized reality nullification field, and we all know how much serious scientists hates it when reality stops taking them seriously, and starts making or changing it's own rules.

    3. Re:Rejected again! by colinrichardday · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's Acmeium, not Ajaxium.

  2. It's so nice to see... by eegad · · Score: 5, Funny

    this table is updated periodically.

    1. Re:It's so nice to see... by Nationless · · Score: 4, Funny

      I imagine renaming it the sporadic table of the elements wouldn't go down too well with the academics.

    2. Re:It's so nice to see... by mr1911 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, to be pedantic, it's not updated periodically -- that would imply that it gets updated on a regular basis with a predictable cycle. It's updated sporadically.

      To be more specific, the periodic table can be thought of as a fungus. The elements are the mycelia of the fungus, and once in a while the table produces fruiting bodies (like mushrooms) that will produce spores for the periodic table to reproduce. It is these fruiting bodies that are the new elements. The spores will be released from these new elements when moisture and temperature conditions are right -- and with luck, a given spore may land upon the wall of another elementary school classroom and become a new periodic table of the elements.

      Yet he still doesn't know why he isn't invited to parties.

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  3. Re:Real elements - or theoretical? by eric_brissette · · Score: 4, Informative

    FTA - "All five of these elements are so large and unstable they can be made only in the lab, and they fall apart into other elements very quickly. Not much is known about these elements, since they aren't stable enough to do experiments on and are not found in nature."

  4. I see that these are atomic numbers 114 and 116 by idontgno · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Atomic number 115 still hasn't been named (or confirmed, according to TFA), but I know what it should be named when the time comes.

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  5. Re:Real elements - or theoretical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem probably comes from several parts. Mostly, the 'Atom', which came from Greek 'atomos': something that couldn't be made any smaller. It was the basic 'element' forming everything else, the building blocks of the universe.

    What was stated to be indivisible was found to be: protons, neutrons, and electrons. Those things that made up atoms... thus proved that we COULD cut the uncutable. And now those three parts are being subdivided further, into quarks.

    So it isn't exactly that elements are indivisible. It's just that the myriad of parts making them up (Protons, Neutrons, and that cloud of Electrons hovering around the nucleus) may change, with some of the changes drastically affecting the element enough that it's no longer what it is; the cases of elements like Uranium breaking down and becoming other elements is what happens with nuclear reactors (with us just harvesting the heat byproduct to make steam to turn turbines to generate electricity). The reverse can happen; combine two elements (say... Hydrogen) and fuse them together, and you can end up with a different element (Helium, among others). Same principle; the 'divisible' parts of the atoms are pushed together so that their nuclei join, and now the new single element changes with its new contents.

    The interesting thing will be how long it'll take to divide quarks into even smaller bits of 'something'... and whether it's turtles all the way down.

  6. Re:Real elements - or theoretical? by newcastlejon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Allow me, then.

    If you define an element as something that "cannot be broken down any further" you exclude anything that decays into lighter elements, such as uranium or radium. You also exclude substances that can be induced to break down through various means.

    However, it's not a problem if you refine the definition slightly: an element is that which cannot be broken down chemically. You can't turn an atom of X into a lighter atom of Y just by mixing chemicals together in a beaker (no offence, chemists, I'm just trying to illustrate a point). Fire X through a particle accelerator hard enough, though, and sometimes it breaks apart into smaller/lighter pieces when it hits something.

    Is that better?

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  7. Re:Real elements - or theoretical? by colinrichardday · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are no stable transuranium elements.

    Yet. Perhaps we will find a transuranium island of stability.

  8. Re:Real elements - or theoretical? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Growing up, and being taught in school "elements cannot be broken down any further."

    It's always nice to run into a fellow member of the Class of 1827 here on /.

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