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Scammers Work Around Two-Factor Authentication With Social Engineering

mask.of.sanity writes "Thieves have made off with $45k after they intercepted a victim's two factor online banking codes used to verify large transactions. The scammers got the Australian executive's mobile number from his daughter, and work place details from his willing secretary. Armed with this data, they bluffed Vodafone which ported his phone number, meaning the criminals could verify the bank's two factor verification codes generated during their spending spree and the victim never knew a thing."

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  1. Re:The Blame Game by xous · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It wouldn't make a significant difference even if they did.

    There are thousands of examples of carriers being tricked into forwarding numbers by 3rd parties. I do it all the time for customers that port into us if something goes wrong with the porting process.

    Often all I do is:
    1. Identify myself as $MYNAME from $MYCOMPANY. (NOT $THEIRCLIENT)
    2. State that I'm calling on behalf of $THEIRCLIENT.
    3. Tell them that $THEIRCLIENT is in the process of moving to our services and need to forward the number temporarily.
    4. Carrier asks for the forwarding number and it's generally done in 1-2 hours.

    The only shred of validation that might happen is them checking my caller id. I've never needed an account number, billing contact name, authorization code, or anything. Just the phone number.

    I've even offered to pay for the forward but been declined because I'm not $THEIRCLIENT. They were happy enough to charge the $THEIRCLIENT on my behalf.

    Phones/SMS/etc will never be a reliable way to verify an account holder because it really can be anyone on the other end.

  2. Re:What's the point of this story? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The point is that if you trust your cell phone to be a 2nd authentication factor for your banking, you've contracted out your security to [the dumbest customer service rep at] your mobile carrier.

    Also, being broke is probably a pretty good strategy for avoiding these kinds of problems.

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  3. Re:What's the point of this story? by rtfa-troll · · Score: 5, Interesting

    no form of security is absolutely 100% perfect in every way..

    Right; but that's not something new. No bank vault has ever been 100% safe either. The difference is that the bank takes responsibility for that so they ensure that it's "good enough", whatever that means. If money gets stolen from the bank vault they don't say "oh that was money from your account; sorry". With electronic security, there's often a level where they blame the failure of their own security measures on "identity theft" and make it the customer's responsibility. Two factor authentication of this kind is fine for a transaction of a few thousand dollars; It's not enough for transactions of hundreds of thousands of dollars. For 45k AUD that's a judgement call. `

    This case is not like most American and some European banks though; Commonwealth Bank discovered the problem its self, is paying off the cost of the transaction and, even so, warned their customer. When they take the responsibility for the losses then what systems to use or not use become their commercial judgement. They looked at an MNP security system and decided there was something wrong with it. Maybe they now change their mind, maybe not. That's exactly the right thing. Hopefully they can persuade Vodafone to at least send a text message warning customers that their number is being ported before they actually do it in future.

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  4. Re:Account security by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Two-factor auth isn't a panacea. SMS (or rather, mobile numbers) are real two-factor authentication - or, more accurately, they are a valid second factor. Something you know, something you have, something you are - pick any two. Password and mobile number is a reasonable choice. The fact that your mobile number is (apparently) so easily stolen doesn't negate this.

    It sure does. You might say it's the Telco's fault for allowing the service churn to happen, but this lack of security is widely known which makes the SMS as a second factor all but useless, and the banks are stupid for allowing it.

    You are confused. SMS to your mobile IS TWO FACTOR AUTH. just because it sucks doesn't make it not two factor auth. Besides when directly targetted there are very few good two factor auths that are practical that can't be defeated by a well targetted scam such as this. RSA/Vasco tokens can be stolen as can Smartcards or USB keys and when you are talking about scams in the amount of this article then the theft of a token isn't that much of a reach either. It isn't like it takes long to empty a bank account.

  5. Re:What's the point of this story? by GrpA · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not True. The product is AFAIK, A Telstra product under which they use SMS to provide a "token" as an additional factor.

    Given that there have been many confirmed examples of MNP ( Malicious Number Porting ) in Australia, this is known weak security. Under the circumstances, its entirely reasonable to assume that the Bank knew this was likely.

    However I can't see them rushing out to address the issue in the near future. In fact, with some banks, it's impossible to turn off the ability to transfer out large sums of money. You can turn it off easy enough, but anyone who accesses the system can turn it back on by default by clicking a screen saying you agree to the risk. :(

    All the major banks in Australia have this form of security. On the other hand, all the credit unions ( everyone except the "Big 4" Banks ) use VIP ( Verisign Identity Protection IIRC ) which can be downloaded to most smartphones and works as a soft-token.

    Security in Australia, as with much of the world, is severely compromised by CEOs and CTOs who really don't understand it and as long as they can blame someone else, then due diligence is done.

    GrpA

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  6. Banks don't keep money in bank vaults. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I assume that's something you picked up from the movies. Any bank which stored a significant percentage of cash in a bank vault would be out of business pretty quick.

    And the money in "your" bank account is the bank's money, not yours. You loaned it to them therefore it's their responsibility. If they happen to try to pass that responsibility back to you... Well, you'd have to be pretty dumb to sign that contract.

    Your relationship with your bank is that of a creditor. The money is no longer yours, and the bank can pretty much do what it pleases with the money.

    The responsibility for security lies with the bank.

    HTH.

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