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Reverse Robocall Turns Tables On Politicians

jfruhlinger writes "One of the great banes of election season is that any politician can shell out a few pennies per voter and phone-spam thousands of people who'd rather not hear a recorded pitch. But turnabout's fair play, and now a service called reverse robocall will deliver your recorded message to elected officials as often as you'd like for a nominal fee. If there's a representative you'd like to call repeatedly, check them out."

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  1. Re:Legality? by eln · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes. Yes they did.

    Also, repeatedly calling the same number with the same message (as opposed to calling many numbers with the same message like the campaigns do) could be considered harassment.

  2. Re:Legality? by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually the do-not-call legislation only covers entities which "engage in any "telemarketing" or "telephone solicitation" activities, as defined by the FTC and FCC, respectively.

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  3. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    not quite the same..

    this calls the politician's offices (which are staffed by people other than them)

    they call your home and cell phones

  4. Re:Excellent! by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Turnabout is fair play.

    Or, it might get you into trouble.

    The politicians who wrote the laws about such things game themselves an exemption to call you. It is entirely possible that if you turn around it do it to them, you could be doing something illegal.

    Remember, the deck is stacked, and not in your favor.

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  5. Re:Excellent! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The politicians who wrote the laws about such things game themselves an exemption to call you. It is entirely possible that if you turn around it do it to them, you could be doing something illegal.

    They didn't just exempt themselves, they exempted political organisations - an organisation dedicated to delivering the grievances of the citizenry to politicians sounds like the very definition of a political organisation. But then again, I am not a lawyer or a politician.

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  6. Re:Excellent! by darkpixel2k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Turnabout is fair play.

    Or, it might get you into trouble.

    The politicians who wrote the laws about such things game themselves an exemption to call you. It is entirely possible that if you turn around it do it to them, you could be doing something illegal.

    Remember, the deck is stacked, and not in your favor.

    Exactly.

    I've had to run a few of the robocall systems, and I frequently asked questions about it all.

    Me: Can we give them a 'press 1 to unsubscribe' option?
    Them: No, otherwise everyone would unsubscribe.

    Me: What should I do with incoming calls (when people hit *69)?
    Them: Just drop the call.

    Me: I thought robocalling was illegal?
    Them: It is. We're exempt because there are special provisions in $STATE-TELEMARKETER-BILL that allow for political calls.

    Me: Hmm. The bill says we must stop calling at 6 PM, otherwise it says were 'harassing' people and could be liable...
    Them: Look further down--it says political calls are exempt and can be run until 9 PM. And also on Saturday as early as 9 AM.

    I remember waaay back in 7th grade, a kid was trying to impress everyone on the playground by saying he could build a 'screamer' bomb. It was a special 'pulse' you could send down the phone line that would blow up computers at the other end. Untraceable too.

    *sigh* Every 4 years I start wishing that kid was right... ;)

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  7. Re:You won't reach the representative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    you might as well say the protesters in a dictactorship shouldn't protest because they will not affect the dictator, they will just make the life of police and military
    miserable because they are the ones that have to shoot them

  8. I already do this. by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    A while back I donated money to the ACLU. I thought it would go towards defending civil liberties, but it turned out my donation was used to pay a company to repeatedly call me and ask for more money.

    After a few hours of research, I found the private home phone number of their CEO. A few days worth of repeatedly calling him and hanging up got my number off their list forever.

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  9. Reverse psychology by Insightfill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Starting in about the 2004 election, the tactics of the local election robocalls changed quite a bit. The call would start out with a line like: "Hi! I'd like to talk to you about candidate Mark Smith..."

    At that point, you'd hang up thinking "Damn Mark Smith!" BUT: what you didn't know was that a few more minutes into the call, you'd discover that the call was sponsored by Mark's opponent, and if you had stayed on long enough, you would have heard about Mark's failings and how good his opponent was.

    If you were on the fence before the call, you SURE weren't going to vote for Mark after a dozen of THOSE calls.

    The "R"s used this a LOT in 2004, and it has picked up every year since then.

    Slime.

  10. Re:Excellent! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    csb time: I had just added fancy dialing packages for call-forwarding, call-waiting, caller-id and some others (this was 10 or 15 yrs ago when that was still somewhat new). I wasn't used to all the star- number- number codes yet.

    I was planning on having a phone interview and didn't want to be disturbed, so I disabled call-waiting for the duration of the call. I dialed the prefix, waited for beeps, then dialed the number for the company I was supposed to interview with. we had our little interview chat and we ended the call. that was that.

    or so I thought.

    a day or two goes by and my girlfriend (who gets all the calls; I never get phone calls) tells me that people have not been calling her lately. is something wrong with the phone? I go to check things out.

    yes, it turns out, I had enabled call-forwarding for the duration of that call. and all calls! until explicitly disabled!

    even worse, the poor guy at the company that I called: he was getting OUR phone calls! "who the hell is alison? why do people keep calling asking for alison?? I just don't understand it!". I can imagine that is what was going thru the poor guy's head.

    I never did hear back from that company. not sure if they knew what was going on or not; but it was only enabled for a few days...

    learned my lesson. make sure you press the right sequence and don't just assume you got *-something-something right.

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  11. Re:Excellent! by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whoever modded the above Flamebait is sadly, no, make that tragically out of touch with what is going on in the US today. The OP's statement is feasible based on just 2 items that came out of the government this week. Worst part? It would be legal!

    The Obama government (whom I supported in 2008) is turning out to be one scary piece of work.

    LOL. Instead of just being very vague to try and sound insightful, please specifically lay out for me which policies or actions by the "Obama government" makes you believe it is feasible that someone would be killed by the government for reverse robocalling politicians.

  12. Another method by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If the service gets shut down, there could be an alternative. There are smartphones in every other pocket, or so. An app that dials a number and plays a sound file, networked with other such phones in a botnet-style way (opt-in, and users able to decide what calls they approve of), without any central authority, fits into this scheme. The politicos in question then can not even block the calls based on incoming number, as each number will belong to a real person, and no number will be calling more than once per a fairly long period, which is not sufficient for harassment charges.

    Using this on politicos' personal phone numbers at 6 AM would be the real fair game. If only one of ten people woken up by a robocall participate in this, it has a chance of quite decent success.

    If they annoy us, let's annoy them! We can do it, we have the technology.

  13. Re:Excellent! by cl0secall · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Been there, done that. I had an old system hooked up to the phone line with an FXO card and running asterisk. It had a default-deny policy -- meaning that if there wasn't an explicitly defined route that matched the incoming caller ID info the caller would get a short, snarky recording telling them to get lost and then get disconnected. If you got past that hump, the next step was "to continue in english, press 1". The next hump is a call queue where you'd hear hold music. At that point the phones inside the house would actually start to ring.

    It was fun to look through the CDR list at the end of the month and look at all the calls that got dropped due to no Caller ID info. Since then the hard drive died and I've been too lazy to hash out the replacement system.

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