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Earliest Human Beds Found In South Africa

sciencehabit writes "A team working in South Africa claims to have found the earliest known sleeping mats, made of plant material and dated up to 77,000 years ago—50,000 years earlier than previous evidence for human bedding. These early mattresses apparently were even specially prepared to be resistant to mosquitoes and other insects."

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  1. 77,000 years? Bah! by Pastor+Jake · · Score: 5, Funny

    My friends in the Word,

    These atheist-backed scientists have surely fabricated these so-called "sleeping mats," as it is clearly outlined in the Bible that God created Adam and Eve 5,000 years ago. Note that I am not questioning the existence of these mats, as these could have possibly BEEN used by Adam or one of his descendants after being thrown out of Eden, I am questioning the "evidence" of their age from the so-called "carbon-dating" process. I wish these scientists well with their work and pray that they will break free from the yoke of grants from godless individuals and governments.

    Your friend,
    Jake

    1. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have to say Pastor Jake I don't see too many people get so many -1 and +5 posts.

    2. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by cosm · · Score: 3, Funny

      My scientific friends in the World,

      These religious-backed lunatics have surely fabricated these so-called "biblical stories," as it is clearly outlined in the Body of Science evolution created Adam and Eve 5,000 years ago (kidding lolololol, no really more like ~100K+ yrs). Note that I am not questioning the existence of these biblical stories, as these could have possibly BEEN used by the ruling class or one of their descendants after not convincing people to do shit they wanted them to do, I am questioning the "evidence" of their validity from the so-called if you repeat it enough it must be true process. I wish these religious types well with their work and hypothesize that they will break free from the yoke of ignorance of the scientific method and peer validated results verified by individuals and governments.

      Your friend, Science

      FTFT

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    3. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a good thing his belief system doesn't believe in karma.

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      rediculous.
    4. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by TxRv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Look up Sextus Julius Africanus.

    5. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by TxRv · · Score: 5, Informative

      They have revised the date a bit. Sextus Julius put it at 5500 BC, while the current estimates, based on the Masoritic text of the Tanakh, are all around 4000 BC. (This also conveniently pushed the date sextus picked for the apocalypse (6000 years after creation) up by about 1500 years.)

      Must've been a confusing time for the Sumerians. http://www.theonion.com/articles/sumerians-look-on-in-confusion-as-god-creates-worl,2879/

    6. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by sadness203 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's probably the same guy that was writing as Dr.Bob,DC with the Chiropractic/Subluxation trolling... He'll probably misclick and post with is real user id someday...

    7. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by sonamchauhan · · Score: 2

      And they got the idea from the Jews. :-)

      Who have been saying the same thing ~1500 years longer

      Go to http://www.jpost.com/

      The dates there are:
      "Fri, Dec 9, 2011
      13 Kislev, 5772"

    8. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

      Must've been a confusing time for the Sumerians. http://www.theonion.com/articles/sumerians-look-on-in-confusion-as-god-creates-worl,2879/

      God must be a consultant. He comes in near the end of a project and takes credit for everything.

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    9. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      It makes sense. Religion is about stasis. Stasis of a written story that never changes. A safe world with a father figure that makes sure that nothing changes and when something bad happens it's part of some "plan". The stasis of a routine that includes weekly (or even daily) mass hysteria events. And of course the stasis of the mind, which ignores or discredits any data that is contradictory or thought provoking as "the work of the devil".

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    10. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately (or fortunately) you do not need to believe in Karma to be bound by it :D

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    11. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      Going through his comment history is almost like reading satire, which pulled me in.

      It's actually a troll, but it works because he's trolling Christians on a predominantly agnostic/athiest site. There is SO much that gives him away, starting with the "These atheist-backed scientists" as if Christians are anti-science. The fact is, over half of US scientists are, in fact, Christians. From conversations I've had here, many athiests don't think science and religion can coexist, and don't seem to be able to (or perhaps want to) understand that science answers "how" while religion answers "why".

      Then there's the "it is clearly outlined in the Bible that God created Adam and Eve 5,000 years ago". Um, no, the bible doesn't say that. Not anywhere. There isn't a real preacher in the entire world that believes the earth is 5k years old. Some dimwit a couple hundred years ago did some faulty math, and somehow people believed the nonsense.

      Then there's "I wish these scientists well with their work and pray that they will break free from the yoke of grants from godless individuals and governments." One google search dispells this lie.

      Pastor Golf is a wolf in sheep's clothing. A very stupid wolf.

    12. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by God+Of+Atheism · · Score: 2

      Douglas Adams wrote about the Orange Catholic Bible that filled 50 intergalactic trucks.

      That was Frank Herbert, not Douglas Adams. The 50 intergalactic trucks were for the encyclopedia galactica (which Adams did write about).

    13. Re:77,000 years? Bah! by PPH · · Score: 2

      No? It began as the Torah,

      What do you mean by 'it'?

      You have mentioned three religions, all of which have regularly engaged in blood feuds over the ownership of the 'truth'. Feuds that have cost the lives of hundreds of millions of people.

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      Have gnu, will travel.
  2. Malm? by RackinFrackin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did it come from IKEA?

  3. This only proves that they were smoking in bed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a nasty habit that I've been trying to quit for 77,000 years.

  4. Whaaaaa?? by EdIII · · Score: 4, Funny

    For people wondering how a mattress could possibly be mosquito resistant it was because it was made out of a specific plant that was a natural insecticide.

    Which begs the question, was that lost technology? I don't see Africans using it for the past couple thousand years or anyone else.

    My favorite from the article:

    "There were no rules for separate eating, working, or sleeping places," she says. "Breakfast in bed may have been an almost daily occurrence."

    Perhaps not. I am sure there was the, "Don't touch Thag's shit rule" though.

    1. Re:Whaaaaa?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Which raises the question, was that lost technology?

      FTFY

    2. Re:Whaaaaa?? by VortexCortex · · Score: 2, Informative

      Which begs the question

      You keep using those words.
      I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

      Ah, but what do you care if your contribution to the dilution helps to lose us an important tool to combat logical fallacies?
      You speak of their lost technology, while actively ignoring and destroying your own.

    3. Re:Whaaaaa?? by EdIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow.

      Thank You. My informal use of an oft misquoted phrase was inexcusable. I have been shamed sir, and I hereby undertake not to make any such utterances in the future, as it offends all civilized people, bruises fruit, and scares children. I humbly ask your pardon and your continued tolerance of my rampant ignorance.

      Your generous attention to my logical and grammatical failures all the more impressive and deeply moving, since it meant taking you away from the wild parties, Grammar Nazi groupie orgies, and generally, a life of fame, fortune, and excitement to come call me out on the Internets in the middle of the night.

      I shall name my two first born sons (twins god willing) Vortex and Cortex in your honor sir.

      Forever grateful, My I please have another,

      Ed III

    4. Re:Whaaaaa?? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      You can savely assume that "begging the question" and the idiom "This begs the question" are two different things.

      The second term/idiom means: "it (the question) comes to mind". Other languages have similar idioms, e.g. in german: "Dies wirft die Frage auf, ob ..."

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  5. No doubt ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... they found the TV remote underneath one.

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  6. I almost feel surprised; by RandomStr · · Score: 3, Funny

    So the bed wasn't made from, 3 wool and 3 wood planks?

  7. Re:Slow by froggymana · · Score: 4, Funny

    SLOW day at Slashdot.

    Slow day.

    You could just go lay down on a bed and talk a nap instead of reading slashdot then.

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  8. Astounding: Protruding Leaf on Each Mattress by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dr. Wadley today announced an incredible discovery relating to the prehistoric mattresses, each had a protruding leaf with sub-millimeter perforations. These perforations outlined words on the leaves: "Do Not Remove Under Penalty of Law. Tongati River Mattress Works. Composition 35% Sedges, 40% Rushes, 25% Grasses. Machine Wash Cold. Do Not Bleach. Machine Drying May Degrade Flame Retardant, Please Hang Dry".

  9. Ancient cave art also found by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

    Believed to depict a woman placing her cold-ass feet on the back of a male sleeping on the same cot.

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  10. These dates keep ketting pushed back by jd · · Score: 2

    That's fine and all part of science - learning naturally alters what you know. From that perspective, it's hardly a surprise. Earliest dates for cooking, advanced stone tool making, etc, have been pushed back by far more significant amounts this year. Domestication of horses may also have been much earlier, but for some curious reason the scholars there have... ...declined to release the data. Anyways, I don't regard that part as being particularly news.

    The newsworthy elements to this story:

    * Further evidence of abstract and indirect thinking in early humans, pretty much putting beyond question that these skills existed back then
    * Further evidence of society evolving gradually rather than in big leaps
    * Further evidence that archaeology is massively underfunded given its contributions to understanding of the human condition
    * Further evidence that academics in the field are completely incapable of communicating with each other, as there would otherwise be no surprise

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