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Apple Loses Tablet Battle In Australia

New submitter harmic writes "The Australian Federal High Court has denied Apple's appeal against the earlier decision that overturned the ban on sales of the Galaxy Tab. The Samsung Android based tablets should be in the shops in a matter of days. Apple had attempted to appeal an earlier court ruling overturning the ban."

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  1. Also lost iPad trademark in China by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised I've not seen this posted yet, but a few days ago Apple lost control of the iPad trademark in China after a dispute.

    http://www.macworld.com.au/news/apple-loses-trademark-in-china-no-longer-called-ipad-41378/

    1. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by horza · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's interesting. Shenzhen trademarks the iPad back in 2000, then Apple launches the iPad in 2010 and promptly tries to sue Shenzhen for trademark infringement. Apple now cannot even call their tablet the iPad in one of the world's largest markets China. Their wildly illogical lawsuits, turning them into one of the world's most hated companies, are really starting to backfire everywhere.

      Phillip.

    2. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by PaladinAlpha · · Score: 4, Informative

      Article detailing the lawsuit here. Apple did, in fact, sue the local business asserting a stronger claim to the trademark.

    3. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 3, Informative

      Shenzhen sold apple the international trademark to "iPad" back in 2006. That's what is up for grabs here.

      http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2011-12/09/c_131297760.htm

      Plus never mind they have no product named, "iPad" either.

      I could name dozens of companies that are more hated in this world than apple. Xe, Halliburton, BP, News Corp, etc.

      Just because you don't like them doesn't mean that it's universal.

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    4. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by Fahrvergnuugen · · Score: 1, Informative

      You forgot a pretty important fact...

      In 2006 the company sold Apple the âoeglobal trademarkâ for IPADâ"but later the companies disputed whether the $55,000 deal included China.

      from here

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    5. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by jrumney · · Score: 4, Informative

      Shenzhen sold apple the international trademark to "iPad" back in 2006.

      The city of Shenzhen never held the iPad trademark. Proview Technology (Taipei) sold the trademark that they held in a number of countries, but Proview Technology (Shenzhen) chose to hold onto the trademark in China.

    6. Re:Also lost iPad trademark in China by jrumney · · Score: 4, Informative

      The "fact" as quoted is incorrect, as Proview (the company) sold its rights to another company, which sold them on to Apple in 2009.

      Probably the other company didn't care that their deal excluded China as they had no intention of doing business there, and when Apple bought it, they mistakenly believed they were buying the rights for the whole world, because the company name of the holder recorded for China matched the previous owner of the trademark they were buying apart from the city in which the company was based.

  2. Re:denied with costs? by stainlesssteelpat · · Score: 4, Informative

    down here loser pays, they lost with costs.

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  3. Re:denied with costs? by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not quite. Joo Joo was released March 25th 2010, whereas iPad was announced January 27th 2010.

    Joojoo was announced before the iPad. And it was released before the iPad. But it wasn't released before the iPad was announced.

    Note also that there's a qualitative difference between the Joojoo announcement and the iPad one. With the Joojoo announcement, there wasn't even a final look to the device for which they could show a picture. With the iPad announcement, the actual device was demonstrated live on stage.

    Joojoo was released 5 days before the iPad, but the look of it dated from after the iPad was demoed.

  4. Over in France by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative
    1. Re:Over in France by Mark19960 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Because it's Florian, and yes - he is a troll.

  5. Re:Isn't it about time Xerox sued Apple? by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nice rewrite of history.

    Apple paid for the use of Parc's innovations. They later had "seller's remorse" when they decided they should have asked Apple for more than what they got, but in classic style they didn't see the value in what they had, but felt entitled to try and change the terms of the deal afterwards.

    There was no "ripping off" of Parc technology - it was all shared in exchange for money/shares/compensation.

  6. Re:Its not me rewriting history by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Xerox were "kindly" allowed to buy apple stock in return for letting apple engineers visit their research centre. Apple never directly paid for any of the innovations they used.

    Kindly allowed to buy at a reduced price. And if they hadn't sold the stock, it would be worth several billion dollars today.

  7. Re:Isn't it about time Xerox sued Apple? by nathanh · · Score: 1, Informative

    The Lisa & Mac were total ripoffs of the stuff Jobs saw at Parc.

    So would you agree with these statements?

    PARC was a ripoff of Engelbart's demo at SRI.

    Linux is a ripoff of UNIX.

    GNOME is a ripoff of Windows.

    Because not a single one of those statements is true, but they're equivalent to your bullshit.

    You need to get a grip on reality. Nearly everything in computing is an incremental improvement from something else. That doesn't make it an automatic "ripoff". Apple massively improved the desktop metaphor with the Lisa and Mac. They contributed greatly to the advancement of user interfaces. Have you used a Star? Have you used a Lisa? If you had, you would not for a minute claim that the Lisa was a "knockoff". There are graphical elements in the Lisa and Mac that were not created nor used at PARC. Yes, there are some similarities... WHICH APPLE PAID XEROX TO USE. There are also elements in the Lisa and Mac that were copied from UI research that existed before the groundbreaking work at PARC. And there are far more elements that were invented by Apple and their employees (Apple employed some of the brightest UI designers on the planet at the time).

    This historical rewriting that occurs amongst Apple-haters - that somehow the Lisa/Mac were just "knockoffs" of PARC - not only shows a profound ignorance of PARC, and of Apple, but of computing in general. It paints you as a blinded zealot. Is that what you want to be? Rewriting history doesn't make you cool; it just means you're a nimrod.

  8. Re:denied with costs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Err, no, "X, but ON THE INTERNET" criticisms are directed on base claims of those patents, like "drag-n-drop slider changing program state on reaching one of the ends, but on a touchscreen"