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North Korea Threatens South Korea Over Christmas Lights

K7DAN writes "North Korea warned South Korea on Sunday of 'unexpected consequences' if Seoul displays Christmas lights near the tense border, and vowed to retaliate for what it called 'psychological warfare.' From the article: 'The tree-shaped, 30 metre-high steel structure on Aegibong hill - some 3km (2 miles) from the border - was illuminated by thousands of small light bulbs last year. It could be seen from the North's major city of Kaesong across the border, according to media reports. Pyongyang has previously accused Seoul of using the tree to spread the Christian message to people inside the secular state.'"

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  1. Wimpy by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Thats pretty wimpy psychological warfare, as decorating pine trees in the living room and shopping and fighting people on black friday and singing about red nosed reindeer is hard core capitalist worship, its not christian at all. I don't even know how you visually "do" christian christmas worship other than something like a 200 foot tall "nativity scene" which unfortunately makes no sense to someone not already versed in christian theology (my son, when he was very little, called it "the farmers", too little to know any better, yet +1 insightful as it was, after all, in a barn scene...)

    Now real christian psychological warfare would be a larger than life Easter scene of the last supper with the table unbiblically piled with tons and tons of yummy food... most of the NK either are currently starving or recently were starving so a big food display is going to rile them all up to no end. Maybe they do that? Waving a bunch of food in front of a starving man with a gun is probably unwise, maybe its going too far?

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    "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
  2. Not a good place to be by na1led · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was stationed near the DMZ when I was in the ARMY. It's a very dangerous and volatile place just waiting to explode! The North Koreans are crazy; you never know what they will do. If a war breaks out between North and South, it will be the bloodiest and worse catastrophe in human history!

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    -- By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.
  3. Re:They're just jealous by heathen_01 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    North Korea is the best Korea! If you must have a light on during the night at least don't shine it toward the sky.

  4. Re:Why... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Bin Laden wasn't trained by the CIA. (In fact, very little of the mujaheddin was trained by the CIA, as the CIA mostly provided intelligence, weapons, and funding.) It's been pretty well established that he brought his own funding and later relied on funding from places like Saudi Arabia. With very few exceptions, he neither trusted Western powers nor did he want their assistance, believing that to do so was to accept help from heathens. Interviews with him by those outside of Muslim circles were rare but telling in how they were approached and conducted.

    The mujaheddin was a complex network of resistance forces, and bin Laden was but one very small part of it.

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    You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
  5. Re:Why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'd have to agree. We tried to fight a 'war' without killing anyone. But if you're not willing to WIPE THE ENEMY OUT. You're not really at war, sit down and shut the fuck up. Send in the diplomats not the army.

    If on 9-12 we had wiped out two middle eastern cities... and DEMANDED that everyone involved with 9-11 be turned over to us or else...

    Terrorisim would not be an issue today.

    Unfortunatly we no longer have the balls for a real war. And even if attacked on a large scale. I don't think we ever will again. We're whipped. An empire on the decline by all measures now.

  6. Re:Pot, kettle, black by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's a National Geographic documentary you can watch free on Netflix (the Lisa Ling) one that gives a glimpse. Brainwashed citizens, traffic cops directing no traffic, empty roads... etc

  7. Re:Someone call Bill O'Reilly by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Without my admittedly superficial and limited knowledge of Christ and of Christianity, I would still have morals, but no power to live up to them, and nothing to empower or teach me to do better. I would still have friends and family to live for, but, again, no real power to become the kind of person who deserves to have them to begin with. Arguably, I'd have *more* to look forward to after I die. Given how much I've failed to love God with all my being, or to love my neighbor as myself, I expect to burn. Forever. I'd much rather just cease to exist. I don't have that option. But if I could choose between a universe in which I had everything I could want except no God, or on the other hand the one in which God Is, I would choose the latter without hesitation. I believe that most of my family and friends will go to be with Him one day, and that He will eventually put an end to sin and the suffering and death that inevitably follows. I believe His plan for creation is good, even if I am not. I am glad He is there, even if He must be my judge and not my Savior.

  8. Re:More detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Christmas is a heathen celebration of the winter solstice. The Christian priests didn't want people celebrating outside church, so they made up an excuse to co-opt the celebration already in place. There is nothing Christian about Christmas beyond the name (in English). The Hallmark holiday is more original than anything to do with Jesus, so if you want to go with the original intention, go worship Thor and buy some presents.

  9. Re:Pot, kettle, black by Barefoot+Monkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People in DPRK live to serve the government. They are effectively peasants and serfs, party members are vassals and the top generals are royalty, with the Kim Jong-il clan as the heriditary monarchy. This state is not communist, it's a throwback to the middle ages, when the King owned all the lands. Other than a little bit of planned economy, it's nothing like communism - because communisn is something people would strive for, not have forced upon them at barrel of gun or threat of dying in one dear monster's labor/re-education camps.

    Some are born communist, some achieve communism, and some have communism thrust upon them.

  10. Re:More detail by kevinNCSU · · Score: 5, Interesting

    More accurately Christmas is a Christian holiday originally timed to coincide and compete with a Pagan holiday which it pushed out though many of the pagan traditions ended up being incorporated by converted followers. There are lots of things Christian about Christmas such as the story, celebrating the birth of Jesus (even tho they don't believe it happened that time of year) ect, but many of the traditions such as the trees and candles are co-opted from Saturnalia.