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Isaac Newton's Notes Digitized

First time accepted submitter nhstar writes with an excerpt from an article in the Register: "If you're looking for a bit of light reading this holiday season, Cambridge University is here to help: they've digitized and made available online over 4,000 pages of the pioneering scientist and mathematician Sir Isaac Newton's most important works. 'Anyone, wherever they are, can see at the click of a mouse how Newton worked and how he went about developing his theories and experiments,' Cambridge University Library's digitization manager Grant Young told the BBC."

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  1. Ah, the golden age... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Being able to develop theories, without worrying some lawyer will come pounding on your door, claiming you are infringing this copyright or that patent.

    Dear Sir, it would pleasure us if you would cease and desist with observations on gravity as our client holds the patent on Apples Falling From Trees And Striking A Person Upon The Head. Should you continue with in your present direction we shall have you summoned to the King's Court and sort you out. Dewey, Cheatham & Howe, LLP

    Of course they had their battles, who stole an idea from who, but it was usually sorted out with a lot of yelling and smearing of reputation, rather than getting solicitors involved.

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    1. Re:Ah, the golden age... by neko+the+frog · · Score: 5, Informative

      Eh, seeing how Newton was involved in one of the most famous IP-theft disputes in history this is more than a bit ironic.

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    2. Re:Ah, the golden age... by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Being able to develop theories, without worrying some lawyer will come pounding on your door, claiming you are infringing this copyright or that patent.

      Dear Sir, it would pleasure us if you would cease and desist with observations on gravity as our client holds the patent on Apples Falling From Trees And Striking A Person Upon The Head. Should you continue with in your present direction we shall have you summoned to the King's Court and sort you out. Dewey, Cheatham & Howe, LLP

      Of course they had their battles, who stole an idea from who, but it was usually sorted out with a lot of yelling and smearing of reputation, rather than getting solicitors involved.

      Yeah, it was so much better when the local bishop, who is family with the local nobility if not royalty, would excommunicate you, imprison you, or even torture/execute you for heresy because your scientific finds went against Catholic/christian doctrine.

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    3. Re:Ah, the golden age... by jd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He also became a significant political figure and sent more than a few people to the gallows. Not the sort of figure I'd want DMCA advocates knowing about, let alone emulating!

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  2. Re:Categories & Pages? by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Informative

    > The remainder of the Newton papers, many concerned with alchemy, theology and chronology, were returned to Lord Portsmouth.

    Anyone know how many pages did he spend on physics and how many did he spend writing the rest of the subjects?

    Would be interesting to see his insights on what he thought about other subjects ...

    Yes. He was warden of the Royal Mint and had a great impact on modern coinage, but you don't hear a lot about that.

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  3. good, but awkward interface by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

    As far as I can tell:

    1. You can't link to a specific page in the archive, which makes sharing a bit tricky; and

    2. You can't download full-resolution pages.

    Still a useful resource to have, but it's a bit unfortunate that these kinds of digitization projects seem to always want to roll-their-own slightly opaque interface.

  4. Re:Link to the book by reub2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The interesting part of this release is not that book, but the notebooks, so the link in the story is correct.

  5. govt contracting + libraries by decora · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the masses: we need digitize our books. google is doing it, why cant we?

    library admin: i understand. let me find a vendor.

    vendor a: our product costs 5 billion

    vendor b: our product cost 8 billion, but we will give you kickbacks

    vendor c: our product cost 3 billion

    library admin: dear management, i need 8 billion dollars

    management: wow cool. so we can be like a real business right? ive always wanted to play business man and make a profit

    library admin: yes, we will own copyright on all materials, and our special interface will provide centralized control so we can keep out the riff raff

    hippie: but arent you a taxpayer funded institution whose job is to disseminate information as efficiently as possible?

    management: have the hippie shot

    library admin: consider it done

    4 years later...

    library admin + manager: press release! our new surfable hierarchy tiered book access gateway (SHiTBAG) allows students all over the country to improve their lea blah blah blah blah blah

    oracle sales manager: so, we are looking at a 4 year contract, and that will be 50,000 seats, so basically we are looking at 10 billion dollars

    libray admin: awesome. the more money i am in control of, the more power i have inside the bureaucracy. ps, can i get an invite to your sweet conference in boca this year?

    users: what the fuck is this shit? java plugin has crashed? please set your JAVA HOME? what the fuck is JAVA HOME?

    users buddy: nevermind all that, let me show you this thing called 'bit torrent'

    1. Re:govt contracting + libraries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm one of the members of this project and this post has irked me (to say the least). I think what has bothered me most are the assumptions that the poster made.

      The costs that the poster gave show no connection with the reality of academic funding in the humanities in the UK. We were generously funded by JISC and two anonymous donors (for whose support we are extremely grateful) - the total funds were approximately 0.00125% of the 8 billion.

      All the work was done in-house by what amounted to less than three full-time positions working for nine months. Approximately half were responsible for digitising/encoding the materials (images and XML) and 1.5 full-time position's worth of work was involved in the development of the front and backends for the project - all of which are based on open-source software.

      More importantly, these materials are all open access. The Newton Project (http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk) has been releasing its materials as open access resources for over a decade. This was _before_ UK HE funding bodies made it a requirement.

  6. Awesome by starseeker · · Score: 3, Informative

    There have been a number of other notable manuscript digitization projects of late:

    British Libraries Digitised Manuscripts
    http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/

    "Homer Multitext" - several manuscripts including Venetus A
    http://www.homermultitext.org/

    The Archimedes Palimpsest
    http://www.archimedespalimpsest.org/

    Personally I think such projects are absolutely vital to the long term preservation of these manuscripts. Modern technology makes possible the duplication of these source documents in high fidelity facsimile (Taschen in particular has published a number of fascinating editions, including Blaeu's Atlas Maior - another example would be The Book of Michael of Rhodes from MIT Press). So often works survive only as a copy of a copy of a copy, and we are left to peer through the murky glass of multiple interpertations at the far distant original author's intent. (The current definitive edition of Euclid, for example, is available to us only because of a single surviving early copy in the Vatican's library (which so far as I know has not been digitized, unfortunately, except for a couple images here: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/vatican/math.html).)

    We should be scanning and then printing many copies of these early works and depositing them in libraries around the world in order to help these early glimpses into our history survive (at least in SOME form, even if the originals are lost). Of course, multiple copies of the digital data is also very important, but we have no way of knowing how well digital data will survive on thousand-year time scales. Fingers crossed that we will see multiple volume facsimilie copies of Newton's notebooks (one volume for the facsimile, one for a modern translation ) on Amazon in the next few years...

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  7. Re:Light Reading? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, it depends on whether you view light as a wave or a particle.

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  8. Re:Interesting! by Taty'sEyes · · Score: 3, Funny

    You're more likely to see a recipe for Apple Pie...

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  9. Re:Categories & Pages? by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Informative

    Newton was a prolific writer and wrote more on theology than anything else (he was a theologean as well as a scientist, alchemist, etc), one example is that he wrote almost a million words looking for meaning in the numerology of 666, including a 6X6 magic square that contained only primes and summed to 666 on each row, column, and diagonal. He also claimed that "Jesus was sent to Earth to operate the levers of gravity". He is remebered for his undeniable genius in science, most of his other writings are (by modern standards) the ramblings of a madman.

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  10. Re:Categories & Pages? by sci-ku · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unless you're like me and got through The System of the World. I wonder how many other slashdotters can attribute 90% of what they know about Newton to Neal Stephenson?

    I thought I had a vague idea of Newton's clinical shyness, but Stephenson's picture is vastly more informative and interesting. No idea how truly accurate it is, but I'd guess quite a bit.

    Highly recommend reading if you haven't: The Baroque Cycle

  11. Re:Principia is in Latin by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, well, he had plenty of time to learn Latin since he didn't have to take Calculus in high school!

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  12. Re:Principia is in Latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not fucking funny because fucking Newton did not invent fucking calculus. FUCK YOU!
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    G. Leibniz

  13. Re:Principia is in Latin by dkleinsc · · Score: 3

    Of course he wrote it in Latin - Latin was the standard language for academic discourse in his time, and as an educated man he was expected to know it and use it in his published works. The big advantage of this was that it made it relatively easy for him to communicate with his counterparts in other countries - for instance, Gottfried Leibniz also wrote mostly Latin.

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  14. Re:Using a Creative Commons license by vadim_t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not ok with it. I find it extremely offensive.

    The funding was already provided, by a donation of 1.5 GBP, so all the costs have already been covered. Work funded by the public should be in the public domain, and I think that should be made a law. Additionally, it's public domain content, which IMO should be illegal to restrict.

    It's fundamentally unethical to take public money and then double-charge the public by putting restrictions on the result.

  15. Re:Luckily by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Newton spoke English (17th century English) and so his notes are in that ...but this is Pre-Johnson's Dictionary so there is no standard English and no standard spelling so he wrote in Lincolnshire/Cambridge English ...Because of this most published works were written in Latin which did have standard spelling and could read by most intellectual Europeans

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