The Undeclared "Cyber Cold War" With China

First time accepted submitter lacaprup writes "Chinese-based hacking of 760 different corporations reflects a growing, undeclared cyber war. From giants like Intel and Google to unknowns like iBahn, the Chinese hackers are accused of stealing everything isn't nailed down. Simply put, it is easier and cheaper to steal rather than develop the legal way. China has consistently denied it has any responsibility for hacking that originated from servers on its soil, but — based on what is known of attacks from China, Russia and other countries — a declassified estimate of the value of the blueprints, chemical formulas and other material stolen from U.S. corporate computers in the last year reached almost $500 billion"

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Didn't the chinese adapt cracking from the States

[Synerg1y]

Yep pretty sure us Yankees invented the concept, along w the personal computer and the internet, shame some of us are getting schooled on it, a glimpse into American decay? Or the start of a security renaissance?

It's not a cyber cold war

[Marxist Hacker 42]

It's a hot trade war, with one side believing the rules don't apply to them, and the other side letting them get away with it.

Re:It's not a cyber cold war

[Plastic Pencil]

I can live with either one more readily than doing nothing and taking it UTA.

It would be pretty damn interesting if the US turned around and told China, here's a bill for piracy, if you don't pay, we don't repay our debt. And what can you do, that we haven't already done to ourselves? Check and mate, and possibly nuclear holocaust in one easy move.

But as long as Americans don't understand why they shouldn't be shopping at Walmart, consistently vote against their own interests, and are too focused on the Jersey Shore, it'll never happen.

$500 billion? Reality check!

[DriedClexler]

Stole informational assets worth $500 billion over the past year? Um, does anyone bother to do basic reality checks?

$500 billion is about 1/3 of the US's GDP for all of 2010.

So ... no, just ... just no.

Well, we wanted it

[Anonymous Coward]

We wanted the "information economy", we got it. We ignored material progress and persisted in keeping an antiquated notion of "work" going for what? The work week was about 100 hours in the 19th century and was closer to 50 by the beginning of the 20th century. Despite all the "progress" I keep hearing about and how "productive" we all are sitting at our computers, the work week hasn't reduced, and it still takes 25 years to pay for a house built out of standard parts in six weeks.

We insist on performing theater for each other while farmers feed us, instead of really analyzing what gets done by who and FOR who.

Re:Been there, seen that.

[c0lo]

What's more, they make no effort to hide their "enhanced group work" skills from their instructors. We've asked several of the students about this behaviour and have been told "that's how things work in China. It's commonplace there."

In regards with intellectual creation: a culture of sharing in clash with a culture of artificial scarcity?

Re:Welcom to Shitty Wok

[Nadaka]

And the Han social construct has spent the last few thousand years killing off all other social constructs in china. China is a racist mono cultural xenophobic nation that would nazi germany a run for its money.

Re:It's impossible to blame China

[Mojo66]

Karl Marx said, the capitalist sells us the rope with which we will hang him. US companies aren't stupid, this is capitalism, hence the risk of IP getting stolen by the Chinese is already counted in. Obviously, it is still more profitable compared to producing domestically, where one has to deal with unions, layoffs, politicians, TV cameras etc.