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Meet the Strange Bedfellows Who Could Stop SOPA

jfruhlinger writes "In a political environment that's become very strongly defined by partisan lines, the SOPA debate has offered an unexpected ray of hope: the two main Congressional opponents of the bill are Ron Wyden, an Oregon Senator deemed a 'hardcore liberal' and Darrell Issa, a California Representative who is one of the Obama Administration's fiercest critics. (There are both Ds and Rs in favor of the bill, too.)" (Read more below.) In the technical rather than political world, opposition seems easier to find: Trailrunner7 writes "A group of engineers, networking specialists, security experts and other specialists deeply involved with the Internet's development and growth have sent a letter to lawmakers criticizing the highly controversial SOPA and PIPA bills and imploring them not to pass the legislation, which they say would stifle innovation and 'threaten engineers who build Internet systems or offer services that are not readily and automatically compliant with censorship actions by the U.S. government.' The letter is signed by a long list of Internet pioneers and other respected figures, including Steve Bellovin, Paul Vixie, Vint Cerf, Jon Callas, Tony Li, Robert W. Taylor, Esther Dyson and Fred Baker, among many others. Both SOPA and PIPA have been criticized heavily by technologists, privacy advocates and security experts who say that not only would the proposed bills make it difficult for companies to create innovative new technologies, but they also would likely not even accomplish the goals their authors' had in mind, namely preventing copyright infringement and content piracy."

And (hat tip to Rob Malda), here's the letter itself (PDF).

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  1. They're NOT opposed to SOPA by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This summary makes it sound like they're heroes fighting for our freedom or something. In actuality, they're just advocated for their own alternative Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act (OPEN). And the only difference between their bill and SOPA is that SOPA will put enforcement in the hands of the Justice Department and OPEN will put it in the hands of the United States International Trade Commission, which in practice will make ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE to most sites being busted.

    The only reason Darrel Issa and Ron Wyden are supporting it is because it provides more protection for the Googles, Facebooks, etc. and they're both from states where those companies are big players.

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    1. Re:They're NOT opposed to SOPA by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is the mindset that has caused the US to move steadily to the right for the past 30 years. The lesser evil is still evil.

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    2. Re:They're NOT opposed to SOPA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, no, a hundred thousand times NO. That's known as "changing the window," and it's a well known problem with politics.

      Example: For the kids, we're now going to conduct random warrantless household searches across the nation.

      With your approach, we should approve of a less offensive alternative, like, say, "but this will only happen twice a year, instead of once a month." You feel like you "won" something when in reality, by any measure, you have objectively lost. This is basically how the Constitution and our "inalienable rights" have been eviscerated over the last century or so.

      This approach is extremely common in politics, and less offensive alternatives are absolutely NOT the way to address it! Wholehearted refusal of THE ENTIRE PREMISE is required, potentially along with civil disobedience if either version does get enacted.

      CAPTCHA: frauds. How appropriate.

    3. Re:They're NOT opposed to SOPA by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is the mindset that has caused the US to move steadily to the right for the past 30 years. The lesser evil is still evil.

      The Right? Damn, man. I've been alive and aware those 30 years and you're so wrong. It's been moving steadily toward totalitarianism, which is neither Right (limited government) nor Left (social welfare). Left and Right in America aren't opposites of one another, they just happen to use the same resources (like a family does). Social welfare *in moderation* is what makes a great country. They're two players on the same team. If you bring in totalitarianism, that's unlimited government (anti-right), and temporarily, the Left is unrestrained, and everyone thinks it's great to get all this free stuff (because people will always be greedy)... until the totalitarian decides that enough bread and circuses have been given out, and then it's time for Social Inequity, Totalitarian's partner in the league of super-villainy, to enter into the picture and slay the Left (because people will always be greedy). Limited Government died a while back, and Social Inequity is rising. The Left needs to help the Tea Party bring back Limited Government before society has no one that fares well, save nobility.

    4. Re:They're NOT opposed to SOPA by TheLuggage2008 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Exactly this.

      I've used this very tactic at home; I started out telling my wife that our entire AV setup is outdated, the larger living room in our new home necessitated a 70" TV and surround sound to fill the room, as well as my aging computer no longer being able to handle the demands of a home theater PC server...

      What I actually really wanted: The green-light on building a new computer. We negotiated down from the TV, surround sound and new computer to just the new computer. My wife feels that that she managed to put the breaks on a lot of needless spending and I got exactly what I wanted short-term. In truth, I eventually want all three, but I have the patience to wait a while before complaining loudly that I can never hear the TV properly because of the crappy speakers, and the game will be afoot again. I wonder how long after the passage of SOPA or OPEN before they start complaining loudly that they can't fully protect us without expanding their reach to U.S. sites as well...

  2. Meet SOPA author Lamar Smith, Hollywood's favorite by mbone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are both Ds and Rs in favor of the bill, too.

    Meet SOPA author Lamar Smith, Hollywood's favorite Republican.

    He may be a Tea Partier from rural Texas with an "A+" rating from the National Rifle Association," but the TV, movie, and music industries are the top donors to Smith's 2012 campaign committee, according to data complied by the Center for Responsive Politics.

    The Tea Party are marks. His donors are his real constituency.

  3. Re:And if you don't know offhand what SOPA is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    is it the Stop Online Privacy Act?

  4. Re:Meet SOPA author Lamar Smith, Hollywood's favor by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Tea Party are marks. His donors are his real constituency.

    Because the Tea Party has staked out such a strong opinion on copyright? I'll bet if you explained this bill to random people on the street, 5% would be in favor, 5% would be opposed, and the rest would stare at you blankly. Copyright affects programmers directly since we are content creators, but most people are as interested in copyright law as they are in foreign-fish importation law.

    When voters don't care about a subject, it leaves the congress-people free to do whatever they want. So they do.

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  5. Re:And if you don't know offhand what SOPA is... by Genda · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the same way that cyanide is a cure for over-eating... it just has side effects.

  6. Re:And if you don't know offhand what SOPA is... by Synerg1y · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article fails at describing SOPA and is super vague in most of its descriptions.

    Better description