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How To Thwart the High Priests In IT

GMGruman writes "You know the type: They want to control and restrict any technology in your office, maybe for job security, maybe as a power trip. As the 'consumerization of IT' phenomenon grows, such IT people are increasingly clashing with users, who bring in their own smartphones, use cloud apps, and work at home on their own equipment. These 'enemies' in IT are easy to identify, but there are subtler enemies within IT that also aim to prevent users from being self-sufficient in their technology use. That's bad for both users and IT, as it gets in the way of useful work for everyone. Here's what to look for in such hidden IT 'enemies,' and how to thwart their efforts to contain you."

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  1. Wow, what a stupid post by Improv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While some people get the policies wrong, in general the idea of IT policies is a good one; the only way to support business policies is to allow for sensible IT policies to exist. If the IT policies don't serve the business policies, someone's not doing their job right, but that's not a problem with the idea of policies existing at all. If you want to "thwart" your IT people, you'd better have a damned good reason.

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    1. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by BlakJak-ZL1VMF · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ^ This. The IT dept's worst nightmare are employees who *think* they know better.

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    2. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually it's the job of IT to support the employees who are designing the products that bring in the revenue. It isn't the role of IT to dictate what those employees can use.

      We had an IT guy for a while who thought he was a dictator. He lasted about a week before we replaced him with a guy who realized his job was to make OUR jobs easier. He's quite good at it, too - he actually does make our jobs easier, which makes everyone more productive. If he was going to tell us, "Sorry, you can't use X or Y", he'd be out of here in a week too.

    3. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually it's the job of IT to support the employees who are designing the products that bring in the revenue.

      Right and wrong. IT's job is more than just facilitating the ability for engineers to do their job (not all companies even have engineers). It's about corporate security, regulatory compliance, and SLA compliance.

      A good IT department will make compromises between all of these things. The business needs to be flexible enough to allow engineers, salesmen, etc. to be agile so as to be competitive in the market, but not to the point of anarchy where an untested/uncertified smartphone gets lost and results in sensitive data going into the wrong hands due to the lack of remote management of said devices, resulting in regulatory fines or competitive disadvantage. Similarly, any sane IT department is going to have a supported platforms/devices list. You cannot provide an SLA to the business on a device you've never seen and done any interop testing with.

      Sorry, it's obvious you don't understand the challenges of a real business.

    4. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by jrminter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      if it's a device that you need for business purposes, the business will provide it for you. (Or should, if it's a genuine need.)

      In an ideal world, yes. I really wish I worked in one. I work in an organization under "severe budget constraints" (unless you are senior management, then it looks pretty cushy to those of us in the trenches.) If we don't buy and use our own stuff, we have to limp along with "stone knives and bearskins" (thank you, Leonard Nimoy and Star Trek). Our choice is to work around IT or get hammered at performance review time for "not getting the job done."

    5. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by Tanuki64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am so glad I don't work in system administration anymore. Tools like you really were a pest. My first job was system administration. The person I replaced was a really good administrator. If good administrator means that he was liked by the rest of the company. Ok, when I examined the server I discovered a rootkit, some unknown outside party had access to this company's servers for month, but hey, shit happens. This is only a small problem as long as the employees were able to surf their porn sites. I built a firewall, cleaned the servers and all computers in this company and generally closed a whole bunch of security holes. What happened? Did I get thanked? Bah, a few weeks later I had a very inconvnient talk with the boss. Sure, I was the BOFH and the mobbing started. Everything worked under the old administrator, why can I idiot not keep everything as convenient as my predecessor? For instance he never forced anybody to use scp instead of ftp to get their files. And really all websites worked. I quit after about three month. Don't know what happened. Perhaps they were able to get their old, good administrator back. At least for a while. Because what I know, is that this company does not exist anymore.

    6. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm inclined to agree. GP comes across as the kind of feckless twat who equates making everyone's job easier with doing everything they say and no questions asked.

      I'll tell you whose job it doesn't make easier - the one who has to clean up the inevitable wreck that occurs when you take understanding the users (a good thing) a step too far and let them run the show.

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    7. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by BlakJak-ZL1VMF · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This old argument... I know exactly what you mean, but if your productivity is being hindered by 'stone knives and bearskins' then surely this is something that management simply get to live with? When Management cease to support the employee, surely the employee should become a 'timecard-worker'....

      if your productivity is high, they're going to think all is well. Let your productivity slide and when they ask why, point out to them how they're screwing themselves over with their stone-age conventions?

      Sucks I know, but otherwise you're shooting yourself in the foot.

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    8. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When was the last time you heard of a company getting fined or giving data to a competitor as a result of a data leak from a lost piece of computer equipment?

      First of all, that was just a singular example of IT security. There are numerous other attack vectors that IT has to enumerate, assess, and control.

      Second of all, the reason why you don't hear about it is, firstly, it's rarely a front page news story when $RANDOM_COMPANY loses a harddrive full of customer account information (unless it's a particularly large breach). Secondly, the actual fines (which are, for the most part, a recent legislative creation) are incentivizing companies to actually implement the proper IT policies such as device encryption and remote wipe / disable. So the problem is starting to be solved.

      When was the last time you heard a salesman say they lose time to IT policies.

      Not the first time I've heard "It's IT's fault" from underperformaing salesmen. I'm not going to say IT is always innocent, but I've been around long enough to seen the patterns.

      I personally have had two clients because it's easier for them to outsource the work than it is to get their IT enabling that work to be carried out internally

      Specific examples? I'm not saying you're lying, but I can't argue with vague generalities.

    9. Re:Wow, what a stupid post by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When you call it "my corporate network", you have defined yourself as the exact IT staff users complain about.

      Fine. When the CORPORATE network blows up, it isn't "mine", and I won't give a shit. How does THAT sound?

      "My Network" doesn't imply "ownership" as much as it does "complete responsibility", which is why TWITS like you don't get it. "My Network" is something that I take a great deal of pride in. It is MY responsibility, and therefore it is MY network. It is like the sales guys getting all upset when another sales rep "steals my client". It isn't your client, it is the company. That isn't YOUR desk, it is the company's. It isn't your office, it is the Company's.

      You get the point now?

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  2. Sour Grapes by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like the article was written by a tool with no understanding of how enterprise IT works, and no grasp of what bringing alien, unknown systems into contact with critical infrastructure can lead to.

  3. Overhead by Scutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IT is overhead. It's a cost center. It generally does not generate revenue. Maintaining an infrastructure costs the company money. Every time you want to bring in your personal equipment, we have to figure out how to support it and that raises the company's overhead. Instead of making IT justify why we don't want to support your Widget Of The Day, why don't YOU justify to the company why you're increasing costs and then work to have that increase added to IT's budget so that we can actually afford to support your crap without having to divert funds away from things that the company has already approved?

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    1. Re:Overhead by jroysdon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except when your uber-important report or presentation or project or whatever is lost and when your laptop goes belly-up and you want to waste IT's time to try and recover it.

      Yeah, the problem is these folks want all the freedom and none of the responsibility for maintaining their own gear.

      How about when there is a lawsuit and all emails, IMs, etc., must be collected? Do you really want your personal laptop being inventoried for all of this? I think not. There is a good reason for a line between business and personal.

  4. Yea..but users don't make policy. by geekforhire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I certainly understand that users want to use what is easy for them but they need to understand that they don't set policy. I listen to any reasonable requests and if they fit within our policy (or if it makes sense to change the policy to allow it) I will authorize their request. However, understand that I have been working in IT for over 20 years and know a thing or two that you probably don't. Its not a power trip, its my job, it is what they pay me to do. Employees need to understand that its not personal. If their request was denied I had a very good reason to do so. Get over it, move along.

  5. Welcome to Clueville, population: You by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously? We don't want uncontrolled portable devices on our networks because we don't control them. We can't force-install AV software (if it even exists for your favorite no-name phone/player/tablet/whatever), we can't even do basic cleanup of them without your cooperation.

    And that only describes them as a potential vector for attack. We also can't control who else has access to them, can't wipe remotely without your permission, can't keep you from leaving it, complete with the latest super-secret corporate strategy on it, in the bar at a random trade show.

    Dislike of portables has nothing to do with controlling you, and everything to do with controlling and protecting what the company pays us to - Their IT infrastructure and digital IP.

  6. Completely brain-dead by ErikTheRed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's the sort of stupid article you'd expect from an organization that is supposedly all about information technology, but is so backwards that they're endlessly pestering me to take a free subscription to their dead-tree edition. If their web site isn't even worth visiting for free articles, why would they think I want to spend the effort moving their magazine from my mailbox directly to the trash?

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  7. Dear GMGruman... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear GMGruman,

    Go fuck yourself.

    Yours sincerely,
    Pretty much every sysadmin anywhere that's been tasked with providing IT services to keep a business running as productively and profitably as possible, in spite of people like yourself.

  8. I actually read the article... by Angst+Badger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but I stopped counting how many times the author recommended trying to cost people their jobs for actually doing them after the third time. I'd like to offer something more insightful in response, but I'm afraid I'm left with "What a smug asshole."

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  9. Re:That's simply not going to happen in this decad by rabbit994 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe you have never worked with stupid requirements that Feds enforce but I have. This stuff is life or death to company. People can and will get fired instantly for breaking it. So like others have said, it's not that we want to impede the user, we have no choice.

  10. Re:That's simply not going to happen in this decad by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And if they get caught they will be fired...if they are lucky. Working around IT policies put in place to comply with government regulation for any reason looks suspicious. If the feds notice the results can be much, much worse. When I see violations to SOX or corporate policy I make it a point to inform the person violating the policy and their supervisor. I also send an email to my supervisor with the details of my observations and subsequent actions so there is a record that I did not turn a blind eye to the infraction. How it is handled from there is up to the person violating the policy and their superiors. I can't speak for other IT "dictators" but the way I look at it is if you get this office shut down it affects my job too @ss hole. As it happens I can see the old Enron building (now owned by Chevron) from my office. A constant reminder of just why SOX exists in the first place.

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