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Dell Ditches Netbooks

angry tapir writes "Dell has ceased production of Inspiron Mini netbooks; in effect ending its pursuit of the receding netbook market, at least for consumer sales. When Dell ran through its stock of the netbooks several months ago, it declined to manufacture more units."

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  1. iPad by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Interesting

    iPad killed the netbook market.

    1. Re:iPad by artor3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nah, netbooks are still great for portable work. If you travel a lot, and need a computer primarily for office apps and web browsing, then nothing beats a netbook. Tablets are more oriented towards media consumption -- games, video, that sort of thing.

    2. Re:iPad by nightfell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      iPad killed the netbook market.

      I doubt it.

      Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing Acer continue with their Aspire One line either. They'd be just focusing on their Iconia tablet line.

      The iPad completely killed the mass netbook market. Now it's little more than a niche. Acer is a discount computer maker, so they'll continue to make discount computers, but people won't be buying netbooks anywhere near the level they once were. And this is all thanks to the iPad.

      As for the Iconia, you're missing a key point. The *iPad* killed the netbook, not the tablet. Nobody wants Iconia tablets, they want iPads, and maybe Fires (it'll be very interesting to see how the Fire plays out over the next year).

    3. Re:iPad by mjwx · · Score: 4, Informative

      The iPad completely killed the mass netbook market. Now it's little more than a niche.

      LOL.

      Keep telling yourself that.

      Whatever you do, dont visit the local electronics retailer, you may see something that would prove your delusion very wrong, like a lot of netbooks.

      The thing is, a lot of people still buy netbooks, they are for people who dont want nor need a full sized laptop. People who travel and want to run windows programs. Ipads on the other hand require computers to do nearly anything, most people I've seen travailing with an Ipad also have a laptop or netbook to run the Ipad.

      Why is Dell giving up Netbooks, simple, netbooks dont fit into the Dell business model. Dell makes most of its sales online, so they have to pay for individual shipping making them uncompetitive in this market. They sell very little through retail channels, When I head to the local electronics retailer (Dick Smith, Havey Norman, Bing Lee) I see a lot of Asus, Toshiba, Emachines (Acer) and HP netbooks at half the price of an Ipad. Combine this with the falling price of full sized laptops and the fact that the business market is their core market and businesses dont buy netbooks (or tablets).

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    4. Re:iPad by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The iPad completely killed the mass netbook market. Now it's little more than a niche.

      I recently attended a large medical conference, and it was quite interesting to watch the people when they were between sessions. There were hundreds of people sitting around with their computers out, and it amazed me that the majority of them used netbooks. The Ultrabook/Macbook Air made up a close second place, while there were only a handful of the 15" luggables. The really surprising thing was how few people had iPads. I guess you can't beat a keyboard for writing notes.

      You may consider this to be a niche market, but anyone who has to travel and walk around a lot while carrying their computer will appreciate the netbooks for their weight. The fact that they are inexpensive means that you don't have to worry about the netbooks getting broken while you are travelling.

    5. Re:iPad by Dzimas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's the absolutely honest reason I don't own a Macbook Air: My son is 9 and I want to take him to Disneyland when I attend a conference in a few weeks. So, instead of forking over $1300 for a sleek little Mac that I love, I spent $180 on a dual core netbook and another $20 on 2GB of RAM. Surprisingly, it's an OK machine. The netbook will travel with me to Anaheim in a few weeks -- and it'll do a reasonable job -- and the rest of my Macbook Air fund will be spent enjoying life with my kid while he's still young enough to want me around. Win.

  2. price... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most people stopped buying them because the manufactures forgot why people were getting them in the first place. They were cheap 'semi capable' computers. Some people bought them because they were small. But many bought them because they were 200-250 each. Then the price went up to 300-400 each. Basically borderline get a cheapo laptop... That has a better screen and better processor...

    1. Re:price... by couchslug · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Most people stopped buying them because the manufactures forgot why people were getting them in the first place."

      Or because the manufacturers KNEW why people were buying them in the first place and preferred to guide them elsewhere.

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  3. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given that there's 15 inches laptops with higher specifications available for almost the same price, it's no wonder people aren't buying netbooks anymore.

  4. I have an idea by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Close Dell and return the money to the shareholders.

    1. Re:I have an idea by Haven · · Score: 4, Funny

      But Dell has given us so many memorable market defining products!

    2. Re:I have an idea by formfeed · · Score: 5, Funny

      But Dell has given us so many memorable market defining products!

      No kidding. Dell was the company that made black cases popular.
      Only mistake they made: new products should have been introduced by Michael Dell wearing a white turtleneck.

  5. Dell, by M0j0_j0j0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Currently Dell is a brand , just that, nothing more , after exporting all the know how to asia Asus took over, and now there is nothing left except the round logo. Close, move along corporation.

  6. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by nedlohs · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. Netbooks still have their uses... by herrnova · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm actually considering buying a netbook before the next semester starts. I've used my 17" and 15.6" laptops to take notes during my lectures, and when I'm in a big lecture hall with large tables, either one works fine, but when I'm usually in a regular classroom with regular desks, they are both too big to be practical. I've also tried using my android tablet with keyboard-case to take notes, and it just ended up being a PITA. While it may work for some people, its not for me. An iPad is not an option for me. So, instead of taking notes by hand, which is a pain in the hand, I'll probably be picking up a decent cheap netbook. Not because I want a full time laptop (which I already have), or want to play games on it (which is what my desktop is for), but because it's the best tool for the job. Pretty much all it will have installed is an office suite, web browser, and any software required for my classes. It doesn't matter that for another $50, I can get a 15.6" dual core laptop with decent ram and storage. I don't need any of that. I am sure there are others that feel the same. The netbook may not be practical for everybody, but it does have its use, especially at the ~$200 price range.

  8. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by Bert64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is that cheap laptops came down in price, while netbooks have only gone up in price...

    The original $200 netbooks running linux were great cheap devices for browsing the web..
    The $350 netbooks running windows are just slow and not very cheap windows laptops.

    The linux netbooks were seen by users as a new device, similar to how the ipad is perceived, while windows netbooks were seen as being inferior versions of regular laptops.

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  9. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My guess is they are getting their ass kicked by Asus and don't want to admit they make a lousy product. The EEEs are damned nice little machines, especially the AMD Fusion models and talking to one of the guys I know at the local Walmart he said they are moving those things like there is no tomorrow. 6 hours on a battery charge under Windows 7, 8 hours under Expressgate, plenty of power, plays full 1080p over HDMI, sweet little units. If the Dell Inspiron mini is anything like their Inspiron laptops i can see why folks simply ain't buying, they're junk.

    Maybe they just can't compete with the likes of HP and Asus, who knows. I know I was amazed I could get a fully loaded EEE while adding 8Gb of RAM and a nice little case for it for only $350 but of course that was before the flood, last i checked they are like $439. Maybe they can't score the drives and have given up? In any case i don't think Asus and HP will mind taking the business from dell, not one bit.

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  10. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by Guspaz · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's what the "ultrabook" class is trying to address. They (and devices like them that predate them, like the Samsung Series 9 or the Macbook Air) are largely replacing netbooks in terms of portability. They're typically 11 or 13 inches, and tend to weight 2.5 to 3.5 pounds or so. They're often lighter than a netbook, but have a much larger screen. They also tend to have proper dual-core processors, although they're the ULV (Ultra Low Voltage) kind which means they're clocked lower. Still, a dual-core i5 is still pretty decent, even if it's ULV.

    The downside is price. There are tons of models available for under a grand, but some people want to get the portability for much less. We're not there yet, they still cost too much to make (all ultrabooks use SSDs, so the trick is the cost of enough flash to make that practical), but the cost will probably come down slowly over time.

  11. Netbooks are extremely popular in the Third World. by goruka · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here in South America, netbooks outsell notebooks by a wide margin. They are much more capable than cheap tablets of the same price and much cheaper than actual fully featured computers. They are also used a lot by business people who don't really want to carry around a full computer.

  12. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by erroneus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would be more inclined to look in Microsoft's direction. Microsoft doesn't like Dell selling anything that doesn't have a Microsoft OS on them. Windows 7 can't really run on netbooks. Microsoft wants XP to go away. XP is the only Windows OS that can really run on a netbook. So it would make sense that Dell might be getting some pressure from Microsoft to stop selling netbooks. It wouldn't be the first time Dell bowed to pressure from Microsoft.

  13. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by aXis100 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dont agree. I bought a $300 netbook and I love it. the blend of power and portability is ideal for me.

    With a keyboard built in, it is far superior for typing than a tablet, and if you stick it in a simple sleeve it's not that much bigger. Real world all-day battery life is better than any regular laptop. And with dual core and a low end 3D graphics card, it's powerfull enough to play some games on low res.

    If I want something ultra-portable I'll just use my smartphone, and if I want something ultra-powerfull I'll use my desktop PC. The netbook fits in beween perfectly.

    Personally I think tablets are a solution looking for a problem that doesnt exist.

  14. Re:profit... by icebraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Say that on a TV game show you're asked to name as many luxury cars as possible in 60 seconds. It's easy: Cadillac, Rolls-Royce, Lexus, Porsche, ... Notice how almost all of those have been on the market for a really, really long time. Now try the same thing with low-end cars. Uh, ... Chevette, Hyundai Excel, VW Bug, AMC Gremlin, ... Notice how most of those are no longer on the market.

    You do realize you're comparing companies with car models? "Porsche" isn't a car, it's a company, like Hyundai or Volkswagen.

    And the Bug was made from 1938 to 2003. Hardly a good example of a model who didn't manage to stay long in business.

  15. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I bought one of the first generation EEE PCs and loved it. I'd never buy another netbook again. What killed them wasn't tablets, it was smart phones.

    I mean I really want one of two things- a full computer to be usable anywhere, or a computer that can be used anywhere. For the first, they have the laptop. For the second, they have the smart phone. The downfall of the netbook is it won't fit in your pocket. I never actually took my netbook anywhere except vacations because I still had to carry it. May as well bring a laptop then, the only advantage of the netbook was the weight. I have no use for something bigger than my pocket unless I need to do serious work which requires a full sized keyboard, and in that case I want a full sized screen. Tablets and netbooks both fail.

    Netbooks and tablets both are evolutionary dead ends. In 10 years the only computer you own will be a smart phone, and you'll plug it into a docking station when you need a full keyboard (and some of those docks may be laptop sized for business trips).

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  16. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by jbolden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree. A $100-200 device, 7 in with a keyboard running Android makes sense. An 11 inch windows "netbook" for $350 doesn't when you can buy a laptop for not much more.

  17. Re:next we'll hear that Dell is in trouble... by neurocutie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have owned a couple of Toshiba Portégés over the years, so I do have a Z830 on my shopping list. However, my point was that Dell has nothing at that level. I can understand that 1.1kg might be extreme, but Intel's Ultrabook specs call for a maximum of 1.3kg and Dell can't even match that weight.

    I have had many Porteges. Not one could hold a candle to my ASUS EEE's 8 hour battery life. Not even close.

    Show me a laptop/notebook that costs $250 or less and has an 8 hour battery life and weighs 1kg and *then* I'll believe that netbooks are worthless...