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Australian Government Bans New Syndicate Game

An anonymous reader writes "It looks like the Australian Government's move to introduce a new R18+ classification for adult video games hasn't yet taken force, with video game maker EA confirming today that its reboot of the classic Syndicate series has been banned in Australia due to extreme violence. Left 4 Dead, Mortal Kombat and now Syndicate — what game will be banned next in Australia is anybody's guess."

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  1. Thank you, OFLC by NoobixCube · · Score: 5, Funny

    Peter Sunde would like to personally thank the OFLC for their contribution to The Pirate Bay's ad revenue.

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  2. Gratuious violence my arse. by BeShaMo · · Score: 2

    I'm sure Australia actually banned it for ruining the sugar coated nostalgia of the first games with another generic shooter.

  3. Depends on how you look at it by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Downloading it and not paying for it is really punishing the publisher, and it isn't their fault. The Australian government is the one causing the problems. Now if you can't import the US/UK version without risking jail/a fine then ok, maybe it is your only way to play. But if importation is possible, it would seem that is the way to go. Show the AUS government how stupid their policies are and support game makers.

    1. Re:Depends on how you look at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Downloading it without paying for it instead of not buying it without paying for it does not punish the publisher at all.

    2. Re:Depends on how you look at it by sg_oneill · · Score: 5, Informative

      I dont really understand how its punishing the publisher in this case. Like any piracy, there isn't any theft (piracy isn't theft unless you somehow take someone elses copy of them) , but unlike regular piracy, there isn't even an oportunity lost. There can be no lost transaction when the publisher *cant* make a transaction in the first place.

      Its literally victimless in all known senses.

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    3. Re:Depends on how you look at it by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But that actually punishes every other publisher, including indie games, since you're getting your entertainment fix from your pirated game and don't buy some other game instead.

      Damn. I'll think about that next time I download a game that is actually free. I could've given money to other game developers! What a little thief I am!

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    4. Re:Depends on how you look at it by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, if you're going by that logic, then just about everything is a lost opportunity. Why are you playing sports instead of buying company X's video game!? Why did you buy my competitor's video game? You should have bought mine! Why did you just download that free game instead of buying mine? Why didn't you give me all of your money?

      I wouldn't say there's a victim here.

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    5. Re:Depends on how you look at it by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Note that it's not a free game, you're just pirating it.

      I know that. But using the logic above, I seem to be able to make a victim out of anyone. No action is without victims, it seems.

      I don't see any victims in this scenario.

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  4. Re:I guess... by mjwx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That makes it ok to download it then, huh?

    Cant say, but it will certainly take the wind out of the old and eroneous "lost sales" argument.

    But anyway, here's what's going to happen

    - Game X is "banned"
    - /.er's who don't understand the situation scream about OMG Freedoms.
    - Media shit storm in a teacup is created.
    - OLFC changes its mind after one minor change.
    - /.er's who haven't bothered to keep up scream about OMG Freedoms.
    - original /. whingers are now cosplaying as William Wallace shouting OMG FREEEEEEDOMS.
    - Game gets released on Oz.
    - /.er's still whinging about Freedoms.
    - Smart Australians order games from overseas regardless (thank you parallel importing).

    I swear we'll still be hearing about this six months from now. I mean the article mentioned Left4Dead when it was released in Oz on November 18 2008, the same day as North America.

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  5. Re:Thanks for the Advertisement! by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 2

    Now I HAVE to get this game. I was going to get it anyway, because I played the old one made by Bullfrog. I hope it's just as good.

    I'm afraid if any company can ruin the old idea then it would be Electronic Arts. And seeing that they changed it from a tactical shooter to an FPS then it seems that they are on course for a disappointment. All they have done is use the same name to convince fans of the old game to buy this one. For all I know it might be a great game, but that will be despite the name "Syndicate". But I guess the tactic works; except for Aussies - they weren't fooled!

    Regarding the banning, it would be nice if the classification board could give it a tentative R18+ rating, even though that would still result in it being banned. Then when the new rating system does become law, we would suddenly have a supply of games to play and the companies would not have to take the time and expense of resubmitting the titles.

    But I suppose that they can't be expected to use guidelines that have not been passed by parliament. For all the classifications board knows, some back-bencher might add a clause that bans any game that mentions sheep. (Because that's the first law of Aussie Sheep Club: you don't talk about Aussie Sheep Club - or if you do you call it the New Zealand Sheep Club).

  6. Re:Thanks for the Advertisement! by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 2

    I hope it's just as good.

    I guess you haven't seen the trailers yet. It's a tired, run of the mill FPS, most likely featuring an emphasis on multiplayer and a 4 - 5 hour campaign tacked on at the last minute.

    Australia is right to ban this travesty.

  7. That just confirms my thoughts by grahamtriggs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The original Syndicate was a 'beautiful' game, that did not contain or need extreme violence. A modern version of Syndicate would not need extreme violence either.

    This is not Syndicate. It's not even a modern version, or a 're-imagining'. This is a completely different game, with some vague influence from Syndicate, and the name grotesquely attached to it.

    1. Re:That just confirms my thoughts by Will_TA · · Score: 2

      Rather like the new Star Trek film, or the Sherlock Holmes films. I wish people wouldn't be afraid to give their ideas their own support rather relying on the coat-tails of the past.

    2. Re:That just confirms my thoughts by Tim+C · · Score: 2

      I'll admit it's been a long time since I played the original Syndicate, and my memory isn't the best, but I seem to remember sending a team of 4 highly-augmented cyborg agents out with mini-guns to mow down bad guys and civilians alike; seems kinda violent to me. Sure, you didn't have ultra-realistic graphics, but books generally contain no graphics and can still be plenty violent.

      That's not to say that I don't expect this new game to be a travesty of course.

    3. Re:That just confirms my thoughts by wcoenen · · Score: 2

      did not contain or need extreme violence

      Are we talking about the same game? The one with the uzis and flamethrowers?

    4. Re:That just confirms my thoughts by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2

      I take it you never set a civilian on fire and let them run through a crowd. On the US box for Syndicate Wars was the sub title:
      Corporate Persuasion Through Urban Violence

      I played both the original Syndicate and also Syndicate Wars in my youth. Personally I would have loved to see a proper sequel in the 3rd person view where you control 1 or more agents. Syndicate Wars ran great on my 486 dx2 66 with 8MB ram, with modern hardware you could have more agents, larger levels better AI and improved graphics.

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  8. Re:Actually it's the music by Grimbleton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Skrillex is dubstep's Nickelback.

  9. Would allmost say it should be banned everywhere.. by Ch_Omega · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...as it spits in the face of the original, and awesome, Syndicate games, which were anything but a dumbed down rail-shooter.

  10. Re:Thanks for the Advertisement! by Hatta · · Score: 2

    It's not Syndicate. It's a generic FPS.

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  11. Re:Why?! by operagost · · Score: 2

    Please remember that this is the country that banned nearly all guns because one psycho shot up a shopping mall. For a country that has so many chompy, stingy, poisonous monsters, they sure are fearful.

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  13. Stupid law is still a law. by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2

    He's arguing that it may become available if the publishers make one minor change (similar to changing blood from red to green).

    Then that version is legal. It doesn't make the original (international) version legal. If you parallel import an unmodified version, you have imported refused classification material.

    (I'm not telling people not to import RC games. Or even pirate them. Go nuts. But people who pirate games know that it's against local copyright laws, and are willing to risk the low chance of detection. Telling people that our Parallel Importation laws somehow magically bypass our classification laws is misleading and wrong.)

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