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New Study Confirms Safety of GM Crops

New submitter ChromeAeonium writes "Much like vaccines and evolution, there exists a great disparity between the scientific consensus and the public perceptions of the safety of genetically engineered crops. A previous study from France, which was later dismissed by the EFSA, FSANZ, and the French High Council of Biotechnologies, claiming to have found abnormalities in the organs of animals fed GM diets by analyzing three previous studies was discussed on Slashdot. However, a new study, also out of France, claims the opposite is true, that GM crops are unlikely to pose health risks (translation of original in French). Looking at 24 long-term and multi-generational studies on insect resistant and herbicide tolerant plants, the study states, 'The studies reviewed present evidence to show that GM plants are nutritionally equivalent to their non-GM counterparts and can be safely used in food and feed.' Although it is impossible to prove a negative, and while every GM crop must be individually evaluated as genetic engineering is a process not a product, perhaps this study will help to ease the fears of genetically engineered food and foster a more scientific discussion on the role of agricultural biotechnology."

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  1. Crazy vs. Evil by oldhack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You cannot ease the fears of the crazy. If you could, they wouldn't be crazy.

    But label the damn things so people can choose. Trying to sneak it under the radar - that's the true evil.

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    1. Re:Crazy vs. Evil by fredrated · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To what purpose? How about so people can know what they are buying? People have a right to make their own choices however irrational you preceive those choices to be.

    2. Re:Crazy vs. Evil by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not aware of any plants that have naturally built man-made pesticides into their DNA sequences, nor "intelligently designed" themselves to be harmed by pesticides of Monsanto's competitors while being ok with Monsanto pesticides. Stop your pro-GM hysteria. Stop your mega-corporate worshiping hysteria. Let me guess, you own Monsanto stock.

    3. Re:Crazy vs. Evil by CSMoran · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. I prefer heirloom stuff when I can get it. And no matter what they say, GM food is bad for you, because we weren't designed to eat GM food.

      We weren't designed at all, mind you.

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    4. Re:Crazy vs. Evil by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah, grasshopper, let me educate you in the official party line concerning consumer product safety or product labelling regulations:

      Situation #1: The state proposes regulating certain aspects of the health, safety, purity, and/or, potency of some product. The relevant industry's lobbyists, backed by general purpose heavy guns like the USCoC and AEI, howl in protest "Heavy-handed, job-killing regulation, unsupported by Sound Science(tm), will destroy the industry! Consumer Choice! Let the customer decide what they want!"

      Situation #2: The state calls their bluff: "Ok, fuckers, let's let the consumer decide, everybody label their product according to what it is, and let the most popular player win!" The relevant industry's lobbyists, backed by general purpose heavy guns like the USCoC and AEI, howl in protest "Your burdensome labelling requirements will cost eleventy billion dollars and 4254535452 american jobs to comply with! They will only confuse consumers, who do not understand what they want. We demand that labelling not only be optional, people who label their products with things that make us look bad, like 'contains no recombinant bovine growth hormone' or 'non-GMO' be legally forced to abandon the practice!"

      It makes perfect sense, if you do your absolute best to think in very short bursts...

    5. Re:Crazy vs. Evil by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 5, Informative

      People buy "organic" stuff - paying significant premiums - as if that means anything in practice. The perception is that it's more natural.

      Except that it does mean something in practice. In the US, use of the word "organic" is regulated; the laws vary somewhat depending on the type of product, but in general they cannot be grown with synthetic fertilizer, pesticides, or (in the case of animals) growth hormones and overused antibiotics. Some people think that using more natural methods makes the food taste better (I can tell the difference with dairy but mostly due to the grass-feeding requirement, which is is a separate issue but part of the USDA Organic standards); others think such food is better for them (if you had the choice between eating pesticide residue or not, I assume you'd pick the latter); but regardless, in most cases it's at least better for the environment, with less risk of groundwater contamination from pesticides and fertilizers. More objectively, some studies have often shown better levels of nutrients in some organically produced food.

      This is not like the word "natural," which is completely unregulated in the US. Anyone can stick that on a label and it doesn't need to mean anything. "Organic" is different (although depending on the wording with multi-ingredient foods, the product may be only partially so, though at least 70% if it appears anywhere besides the ingredients label).

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    6. Re:Crazy vs. Evil by unrtst · · Score: 5, Interesting

      People tend to be very good at predicting what others will likely do, but we're crap at understanding the motivation of those actions, and this is a perfect example.

      You're assuming people would be choosing because they're scared of the effects of GM food (and I'm assuming that's your assumption, and you'll probably correct me).

      For me, I don't want to support Monsanto if at all possible. I think it's absolute bullshit that a farmer can have his crop infested with Monsanto "product" from a neighboring farm, and then get sued when he uses it. And yes, I think there needs to be patent reform, copyright reform, trademark reform, etc, but I also won't actively support a company that abuses those systems.

      Requiring a label ain't so bad (we could be pushing to limit it's use or outlaw it the way they've done with smoking, for instance, which I also feel should be ones choice but should be correctly labeled), and it leaves the choice to the individual. If past labeling enforcement is any indicator, it won't change a damn thing in the larger scale of things (think McDonalds - you can now see exactly how awful their fries are and, surprisingly to me, how relatively good their nuggets are... but they're still selling millions).

      I predict that the sheeple hysteria will have little to no effect on the purchasing numbers should producers be required to label GM foods. Ya know why? Cause those people have already moved to the "Organic" trend.

    7. Re:Crazy vs. Evil by Jmc23 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Permaculture anyone? Besides you're just inventing lies. If it was even true that they needed 2 the land, it would be worth it for less contamination of soil, water, and actual produce, better taste, and higher nutritional value.

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  2. Re:GMO Crops are OK? Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your science does not confirm my preconceived notions! I will reject it out of hand and dismiss you as sheep. SHEEEEP!

  3. That's nice.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a nice result and all, but it doesn't address the real concerns with GE crops:

    1. patent wars on farmers
    2. cross-contamination to non-GM crops / organic farms
    3. against license agreements to save seed
    4. crop monoculture

    1. Re:That's nice.. by jcupitt65 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's also environmental damage. Herbicide-tolerant crops mean the farmer can spray more and push yields higher, but greater use of herbicides damages diversity in the surrounding countryside. I suppose this is related to your point 4.

    2. Re:That's nice.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Very good points! and all very true. The nutritional is just one very small part of the equation. The way natural mutations work is successful changes produce a healthy species. A mutation that is too successful ends up getting killed off because it deletes it's food supply. Over the long run we end up with a balanced Eco-system.

      When anti-biotics first came out, they were over-used and now we have super germs. GM crops are already producing super weeds. No mater how toxic you make an environment, if it can support life, life will figure out a way.

      As a last though I think it's funny that one study supporting the corporate view should convince us unwashed doubter, however years of studies are considered flawed if they go against the corporate views (i.e. climate change).

  4. As a Frenchman, allow me to add... by Noryungi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like a previous poster mentioned, the study ''proving'' the safety of GM crops was financed, at least in part, by a consortium of large French companies with an interest (a large interest) in GM crops.

    Make of that what you will, but it reminds me of these studies, sponsored by Microsoft, ''proving'' that Windows was more secure than Linux.

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  5. Problem with GM crops is IP control, not health by ZmeiGorynych · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The major problem with GM crops is their intellectual property implications, and another one is accidental cross-breeding with wild plants. If people are able and allowed to use the seeds of last year's GM crop to seed this year's crop, without paying a yearly fee to Monsanto or some such, and if there is a way to guarantee that the modified genes won't spill over into the wild plant gene pool (causing who knows what damage as wild plants become poisonous to bugs that feed off them), I wouldn't have a problem with GM - but what are the chances of either? Not very high.

  6. That's not the damn point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Health issues are not the damn point of this subject. Who really cares what your next carbohidrates source will be? The issues are about poluting the organic crops and then making people pay a seed license. Patents and ownership are yet again the real issues here

  7. The issue isn't with GMO safety by hsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is with the fact that companies like Monsanto now *own* the genetic code to the crop and can destroy anyone they think is "using" it without paying them a fee.

    That is the real danger and threat to society. Add in the few strains of the crop being produced now and it becomes an even bigger threat to being totally wiped out with a single disease.

    Monsanto and their unholy alliance with the US Government is the danger, people.

  8. Fuck greens and fuck market fundamentalists by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Claiming that GM is safe is about as stupid is claiming that GM is dangerous. Every individual alteration should be examined and go through safety trials.

  9. Compare with drugs by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    • * The IP of drugs are owned and vehemently defended by their owners - GM crops? check!
    • * Drugs are extensively tested on a variety of subjects from cute fluffy animals, up to controlled trials of volunteers - GM crops? Hmm .. not so sure of that
    • * Drugs can't propogate by themselves - GM crops? Oh yeah baby they can!
    • * Drugs can be recalled if a problem is later discovered (potentially years after their release) - GM Crops? Umm ... hmmm .. ahhh .. no
    • * Drugs can't jump from the pill bottle in your cabinet to a pill bottle in your neighbours cabinet, and infect their drugs - GM crops? (fingers in ears) la la la - I can't hear you!
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  10. More issues than just safety by cthlptlk · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree that the fear of *eating* GMO foods is science-phobia. But even if GMO foods are safe, GMO agriculture is bad for everybody.

      Everything that you read on /. about intellectual property applies to the IP that Monsanto et al apply to their products and research. In fact, it's worse, because the wind doesn't blow proprietary software from nearby windows and OS X boxes onto your linux systems, causing you to owe the IP owners money and disabling your ability to build your own software.

      GMO seeds are also highly optimized to solve certain problems, and can fail miserably in other climates where local strains have been bred to adapt to local conditions. The farmers in India who are committing suicide en masse because their crops have failed are not just phobic about science. They got fucked in the ass.

      The GMO salmon that are safe to eat are so big because they never stop growing, so they never stop eating. Is that a species that you think would have no ecological impact if accidentally released into the wild?

  11. Re:GMO Crops are OK? Whatever by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be fair to the grandparent, glowing peas would be pretty awesome and if someone is not trying to splice firefly and pea DNA to achieve this then I think we should be looking hard at the genetics community and asking 'why not?'

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  12. Re:GMO Crops are OK? Whatever by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not successfully, as yet.... The theory was that the antifreeze proteins used by the arctic flounder to resist cold damage in its rather hostile environment would produce a tomato resistant to frosts and cold storage.

    Splicing the gene in worked just fine. However, the product wasn't significantly better, as a tomato, and the PR was bad.

    Good old Green Fluorescent Protein, a jellyfish derivative, has been spliced into just about anything and everything somebody in a lab coat has cared to hold still for 10 minutes; but largely as a proof-of-technique or imaging agent, it has no obvious value for food crops.

    Our experience to the present suggests that attempting to grab useful animal traits and shove them into plants(I, for one, welcome the tomeato with enthusiasm!) is harder than naive speculation would suggest; but that there is no magic barrier to splicing animal genes into plants, other animals, bacterial, etc.

  13. Roundup Ready and Arachnid/Insect Populations? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's also environmental damage. Herbicide-tolerant crops mean the farmer can spray more and push yields higher, but greater use of herbicides damages diversity in the surrounding countryside. I suppose this is related to your point 4.

    Here's an anecdote for you. I'm actually home for the holidays (in farmland country) and was asking my parents what happened to a lot of specific insects I remembered as a kid but don't see these days (I realize it's winter but I've been home in the summer too). Specifically we used to have these massive garden spiders that had a golden abdomen like this one. When I was a kid, I used to flick grasshoppers and locusts into these massive webs they built between our pine trees. The webs are no longer there. My mom says it's the Roundup. She's worked her garden since 1977 and I mean like an acre of garden that we basically subsisted on. She's convinced that it's the farmers that drench their crops with Roundup now and that this Roundup is killing certain insects (directly or indirectly in the food chain). She also claims that due to Roundup we never see the number of toads and frogs that we used to (literally our backyard would be full of the young) but I can't say if this is true or not as my dad has since laid plastic lining around our pond to protect our lawn.

    Anyway, is there anyone doing these studies? Who applies Roundup to frogs, toads, golden garden spiders or their food and studies the impact? I guess nobody really cares about spiders but there's the obvious recent example of pesticide harming the bee population and that could turn into be a very dreadful problem.

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    1. Re:Roundup Ready and Arachnid/Insect Populations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I started developing a real sensitivity to wheat in 1997-1998, which stunned me, as I love eating it in all its forms, pretty much. I was living in the UK at the time, and slowly realised that it was the wheat that was the problem. Eventually I discovered that if I ate predominantly wheat products for a good 2-3 weeks straight I would get violently ill at the end of that period within 20 minutes of eating - stomach would hurt like hell, and it would feel as if I hadn't eaten at all.

      I was really vexed by this. I pieced together that I needed to alternate with rice-based dishes, or with grain-less meals (salads, beans etc), and eventually I would feel better. About 3 months later, the GMO controversy erupted in the UK. At that time, I discovered that the UK gets something like 80% of all its wheat products from North America - where Canadian and US wheat producers had quietly introduced GMO wheat into the food supply - and not publicised this at all.

      I returned to Canada in 1999. I then moved to Italy in 2002, and ate wheat constantly for the next two years. Guess what? Not a day of the same symptoms. Why not? Because they don't allow this frankenwheat to be sold.

      Since coming back to Canada in 2005, I've had a couple of bouts of the wheat sensitivity, and for the same reasons - too much wheat in a compressed period.