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2012 and the Technology Blahs

Velcroman1 writes "Generally, at the end of the year, predictions stream forth as to how this or that new technology will transform the world in the next 12 months. Just before Christmas, IBM announced computerized mind reading was just around the corner — sometime after 2017, that is. But on the whole, experts and analysts don't see a whole lot of innovation coming out of the U.S. anytime soon. Instead, they see sluggishness. 'We'll have to wait for consumer spending to go up before the 'flying surfboard' arrives,' said Chris Stephenson, co-founder of Seattle consulting firm ARRYVE. 'Bigger innovation labs and companies are holding back on numerous innovations until they can properly monetize them.'"

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  1. And here are the predictions for 2012 by InterestingFella · · Score: 4, Informative
    TechCrunch has an interesting predictions on how HTML5 and 2012 will change the web.

    Apart from making the whole web more interconnected between different websites, web browsers starting to look and behave more like iPad, complete with push notifications and geolocation, and HTML5 ads replacing majority of flash based ads, the article also predicts that browser makers will start to introduce App Stores within their browsers. In fact, Chrome already has one.Facebook will also get a lot more seamlessly integrated with your desktop, including file system access, photo syncing and widgets on your screen. There will also be an increasing amount of HTML5 based social games and online cloud based apps that replace every functionality you needed desktop apps for. All of these changes and features will start to blur the line between desktop and browser and will also bring your social graph more closely into contact with your traditional desktop experience.

    1. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Marketing speak decoded:

      • "Push notifications" -> ads rammed up your ass
      • "Apps" for browsers -> pay per view content
      • "HTML5 ads" -> ads take over the whole screen.
      • "Facebook will be seamlessly integrated into the desktop" -> all your info belongs to us
    2. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by grimmjeeper · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's all I need. A browser that gives away all of my personal information so that advertising creeps can push sell a lot of crap on top of the web pages I'm trying to view. And on top of that it's going to make me use a very clunky "touchscreen" style user interface full of downloadable craplets rather than taking advantage of the keyboard and mouse that my desktop has always had.

      Call my cynical but I really see all of this as the web going downhill. Sure, there are great new technologies that can make things better. But as with any tool, it depends on how you use it. In this case, it's not being used to make anything better.

      Oh yea, I almost forgot the obligatory "get off my lawn" statement...

    3. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by smi.james.th · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Apps" for browsers -> pay per view content

      Permit me to respectfully disagree. I use a few of the Chrome apps, mostly like offline GMail and Google Calendar because I have extended periods away from an internet connection when I still need to be able to access these things. Chrome Remote Desktop is quite useful as well. Sure, pay-per-view stuff may arrive, but I doubt it will even become a major thing.

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    4. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by erroneus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the beginning it's free or really cheap... then you get hooked on it and then the costs keep going up. Are you like 18 or have you not noticed this general trend where the consumer is concerned?

      If there is a way to exploit the consumer with technology, they have ALWAYS done so. Everything you do, everything you see, everything you eat, every breath you take, every move you make... it's worth something to someone and they will always do everything they can get away with to capitalize on it. The only areas which aren't being exploited are either prohibited by law or new enough that they haven't yet figured out how to best exploit.

    5. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by grimmjeeper · · Score: 2

      I use Firefox, which probably isn't the best. But NoScript and Ad Block Plus make a huge difference. It's amazing how many websites use scripts from Twitter, Facebook, and google-analytics.

    6. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Are you like 18 or have you not noticed this general trend where the consumer is concerned?

      Are you like 18 that you have no self-control or disposable income? I have about 40-60 apps on my Android. I paid for exactly one, because it was a non-trivial app that I use every day, for at least an hour to two hours. The rest are all free. Exactly one comes with ads, and I only have it because it's a fun game to play with friends (I won't mention the game because I don't want to give extra publicity to the game, and because I don't want to admit that I actually support the company via ads).

      Do some research on what you use, and you can live a nice, uncluttered life filled with useful apps that don't cost you a dime. And if you do find a particularly nice one, do the right thing and donate.

      Then the poor schmucks making the app won't have to turn to the dark side to make a living.

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    7. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by arkane1234 · · Score: 2

      There's Ad Block on Chrome. I have that.

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    8. Re:And here are the predictions for 2012 by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      In the beginning it's free or really cheap... then you get hooked on it and then the costs keep going up.

      I was thinking the same thing earlier this morning when I was making a JE about games. Back in the DOOM and Duke Nukem 1 days, they gave games away, or at least enough of the game that it was a full game. When I registered DN1, they not only sent two more levels (actually two more DNgames), but a third, unrelated game as well. By the time Quake came around the shareware model was almost gone, but you had free network play since DOOM (perhaps earlier but I hadn't heard of it). Now you have to give STEAM or Sony or MS a bunch of money and personal info to play online.

      I wish there was a backlash against this, but today's young people seem to equate "free" with "worthless". Never mind that matches used to be free, there was no such thing as bottled water, etc. You're paying for shit that I used to get free.

  2. How to Monetize a Flying Surfboard: by earls · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Invent a flying surfboard.

  3. Consumer spending never goes back up? by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What if consumer spending never goes back up, adjusted for inflation?
    I know that adjusted for inflation the median has had less income every year for something like 40 years.
    Also .edu, medical, car/transportation, energy, food, and housing costs have recently been exploding.
    Then add in "new" expenses. Very few people were spending $150/month on smartphone bills more than a couple years ago.
    Leaving less money for consumer spending every year.

    so... those companies who wait, might be waiting a very long time indeed, like until they go out of business.

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    1. Re:Consumer spending never goes back up? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also .edu, [...] costs have recently been exploding.

      I know how you feel! Those domain registrars are nuts. How are we supposed to get by if the fake university websites we set up to fool our parents are unaffordable? ICANN should do something.

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    2. Re:Consumer spending never goes back up? by Animats · · Score: 2

      What if consumer spending never goes back up, adjusted for inflation? I know that adjusted for inflation the median has had less income every year for something like 40 years.

      That's what "competitiveness" is all about. Wages decline until they're just above survival level. This eliminates most discretionary consumer spending, and the economy stabilizes at a low level. That's the "free market" applied to labor. Your life will just barely work, forever. Deal with it.

    3. Re:Consumer spending never goes back up? by vlm · · Score: 2

      All of those things are consumer spending.

      And none of them are innovative, at least in the short term. And I can't even imagine what could be released in those fields that is innovative.

      I suppose buying gasoline, natgas for the furnace, electricity for the air conditioner, would be pretty innovative on a multi-century time scale, but not compared solely to next year.

      Medical is not innovative for consumers. For tech types we understand new things are always arriving. For management types there are purchase orders to be decided on. For joe 6pack the medical experience is, they deduct an ever increasing fraction of your paycheck for insurance, you go to hospital/clinic when necessary, doc does his thing, the end. Recently with medical-bill-caused bankruptcy if the insurance only covers 80% costs and your hospital trip had a high 6 figure bill.

      Food is certainly not innovative, unless you count the American obsession with soaking everything to saturation with corn syrup and/or salt. If you go low carb for awhile until your taste buds downregulate, most "regular american food" tastes way beyond disgusting until your taste buds upregulate again.

      A housing is simply not innovative. A McMansion is just a large shack. So your overgrown cookie cutter garden shed has fake styrofoam columns. Woo hoo. Soooo not impressed with innovation in housing. If anything housing seems to be the opposite of innovation.

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    4. Re:Consumer spending never goes back up? by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      Medical is not innovative for consumers.

      Holy crap, you're either very young or you haven't been to a hospital in a long time. Ever hear of ether? That used to be used as a anasthetic in surgery. They used cloth and plaster for broken bones, hot as hell if you sweat. They never had defilibrators, OR monitors, stents, artificial joints, CrystaLens implants, MRI, sonograms, cochlear implants... no innovation? Congratulations on the most ignorant comment I've seen today, son.

      Food is certainly not innovative

      I see you've never been outside a city. Farming technology is nothing like it was 25 years ago. Hell, they have harvesters that run themselves using GPS now. And without farms, there's no food. Without food innovation there'd be a hell of a lot more hunger in the world.

      Where do you kids come up with these dumb ideas, anyway?

  4. Beware the writing. by FuturePerson · · Score: 2

    Never mind the mind reading. When the mind writing starts being used more (at the moment I can't remember when that will be) by forces up to no good, those aspiring for truth and justice will often find themselves in interesting and infuriating trouble.

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  5. The Word Monetize by cosm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am really starting to hate the word 'monetize'. Let every utterance of it be a reminder why government funded scientific research is important. I know this article is referring to more consumer oriented things, but much of our current technological wonder (internet, rocketry, about a million other things) is a long byproduct of government research. Now before I get called a pink-commie-bastard and the like, let me just say I am all for capitalism and its benefits. However, the frequency of this concept of 'monetization' as a stimulus for development seems almost foolhardy. Call me an idealist, but I like the idea of scientific and technological advancement for the principal of advancement, not just for the sake of making more money. Again, idealist viewpoint. I know.

    And yes I know that a demand for XYZ creates incentives for business to develop/produce/be competitive. But the trend is going towards areas of research that have a high-risk / low-reward ration being foregone if everything is free-market, and technologies that can't possibly be implemented without 20+ years of research will rarely have private/corporate money sunk into them, even though in the long term they could have a dramatic positive impact on the quality of life for the human population.

    Or is it all about the money these days? Any hard-liner Adam Smith's here? Money solves all woes, right? Right?

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  6. Missing factor in predictions by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People that try to innovate get sued, or stopped by widely broad patents/copyrights, promising new technologies never see the light (remember sixthsense?) because "something" gets in the middle.

    A few recent examples just in the Android field were that android device makers have to pay Microsoft because using/suporting the fat filesystem, Oracle suing Google for using Java, Samsung get their tablets out of the market because their dimensions looks a bit like the ipad ones. Not saying that it was the example of innovation and new ideas in computing, but the kind of unbreakable barriers our current civilization built to stop any try to build a future.

    1. Re:Missing factor in predictions by zill · · Score: 2

      Because FAT is the lowest common denominator. If they went with EXT2/3/4 or ReiserFS then Windows computers, digital cameras, and most other SD card readers wouldn't recognize the filesystem. In hindsight it was a terrible decision and some custom roms already switched to EXT.

  7. Re:We're up to our ass in debt by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What happens when consumer spending DOESN'T rebound?

    You just adjust government statistics until it damned well does rebound. That's what numbers are for.

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  8. Why bother inventing? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The risk of being sued for patent infringement is sufficiently high to prevent me from bothering. I wonder how unique I am in this regard.

    1. Re:Why bother inventing? by Animats · · Score: 2

      The risk of being sued for patent infringement is sufficiently high to prevent me from bothering. I wonder how unique I am in this regard.

      Not very. I have five patent plaques on the wall behind me. For me, the risk is not being able to collect for infringement because of high litigation costs.

    2. Re:Why bother inventing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have been sitting on an idea for a sweet app to target a specific aspect of the media, but am having trouble pulling the trigger on development because I will almost certainly get sued. Anything that does any type of streaming is a mine-field as we have seen many times here on /. My coworkers always joke when I get up on my soap box about patent reform, but I honestly don't think they are aware of how impossible it is to innovate.

  9. Innovate, dammit! by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    'Bigger innovation labs and companies are holding back on numerous innovations until they can properly monetize them.'

    And citizens are holding on to their money until they see something worth buying. Innovate, dammit!

  10. Blame the Mayans by OzPeter · · Score: 2

    Who wants to develop cool stuff when the world is about to end?

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  11. Re:We're up to our ass in debt by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    What happens when consumer spending DOESN'T rebound?

    Consumer spending will go up when consumer earning goes up.

    If one company offshores its work, that's smart. If they all do it, there's no one left with enough money to buy their products.

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  12. nobody is sitting on a flying surfboard. by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    the premise of the article is pure bullshit. if someone had a flying surfboard they most certainly wouldn't sit on it so that they could monetize it - they would be monetizing it already. if you look at money poured at research, I'll bet you'll find it's more than ever before. it's just harder to come up with something people need which makes sense, is practical and what people would actually want and would help people(and not just essentially be a toy, like a new way of toggling a switch).

    personally, I'd like electricity be 1/100th of the price it is now compared to for example wheat. so that I could run greenhouses in finland in the winter for next to no cost, have a beach volleyball field kept warm with IR and so forth. and there's no "technology" that just takes 20 years of research and that's it then. fusion power is one example how it just doesn't work that way.

    however there's probably quite a few assholes who SAY they have a flying surfboard if they could only get 20 millions to perfect the flux capacitor..

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  13. Re:Don't assume people are stupid by Fned · · Score: 2

    Telling someone they're wrong and calling them stupid doesn't add much value to the discussion.

    I'm not surprised that someone would have this view of Adam Smith, and it made me think of this article
    http://www.chomsky.info/books/warfare02.htm

    That's a very informative link, there, thanks.