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Charlie Kindel On Why Windows Phone Still Hasn't Taken Off

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft's weak share in the mobile phone market can be attributed to its mishandling of industry politics, not inferior technology or features, according to ex-Windows Phone evangelist Charlie Kindel. Microsoft's traditional strategy of going over the heads of hardware vendors to meet the needs of consumers and application developers does not work in the phone market, says Kindel, where the handset makers and carriers have the biggest say in determining the winners (Apple is an exception). Not everybody agrees with Kindel's analysis. Old-timers may remember Kindel, who recently resigned from Microsoft, from his days as developer relations guru for COM/OLE/Active-X."

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  1. Windows Phone is Superior; Why Hasn’t it Tak by teh31337one · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wait, why is it superior?

    Windows Phone is Superior; Why Hasn’t it Taken Off

    ex-Windows Phone evangelist Charlie Kindel

    Oh, right

  2. Re:And the other reason is... by JDAustin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing is Windows Mobile is not a inferior OS (for once). But MS's history has burned so many in the past that people are just turned off by the idea of a Windows mobile phone.

  3. Its not surprising everyone disagrees by rathaven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The facts are probably that WP was:
    a) Late to market
    b) Lacking developer support as many had already moved to iPhone or Android or developed mobile skills on these platforms
    c) Not allowing hardware manufacturers to best utilise existing hardware by being proscriptive
    d) Trying to be different after the market had already led in specific directions (iPhone then Android). Lets face it, it wasn't going to be easy to get in on this without using a similar interface to iPhone or a good weight of device support (Linux)
    e) Less than interesting on most of the original hardware
    f) Poor Marketting
    g) Leaving carriers being carriers - little value add and little gain.
    h) Using the names "Microsoft" and "Windows"


    Anyone think of any others? I think instead of arguing between posts I think we can just add a big list together, post it to Microsoft and see if they learn any lessons.

  4. Re:And the other reason is... by Bert64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The iPhone sold because it offered something that other phones did not... It was appealing to users, and although it didn't really offer anything new it did existing things like email and web browsing better than other phones on the market.

    Windows phone has nothing to offer users that they can't get from an Android or iOS based device...

    On the other hand, it's called "windows" which paints the device in a negative light...
    It reminds users of windows mobile, which was an awful platform that users generally hated.
    It gives users an incorrect belief that they will be able to run windows applications on it, just as windows mobile did, and users will be disappointed.
    It creates an association with the desktop/laptop windows brand, a brand which is generally disliked and is associated with crashing, malware and various other nasties... It's tolerated on computers because users don't see any alternative or are locked in, but alternatives are well known and readily available on phones.

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  5. Re:And the other reason is... by InsGadget · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing is Windows Mobile is not a inferior OS (for once). But MS's history has burned so many in the past that people are just turned off by the idea of a Windows mobile phone.

    This is pretty much the long and short of it.

    Also, WP7 is just competing against more mature offerings, with more features to entice new users. WP7 is quite nice to use (I have a Samsung Focus), and it does most tasks well, but it still falls behind when compared to Android and iPhone in a lot of tasks, simply because it's younger.

    IMO, WP7 (vs. Android or iPhone) is ideal for 3 types of people:
    - If you want a really simple but still powerful smartphone, then check out WP7. iPhone is a very close 2nd in this category, but WP7 is incredibly simple to use.
    - If you are heavy into Facebook or Twitter, then you should look at WP7. The Social hubs are unmatched.
    - If you love finding and downloading new music, then you should check out Zune Pass + WP7. Although they did just get rid of their $15/month-but-with-10-free-songs deal, the $10/month for a huge music library you can download to your hearts content is still quite nice.

    Otherwise, honestly, you will probably find more things to like about an Android or iPhone. Although you should still check out WP7 and see if the UI can swing you like it did me.