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Does 'Supersizing' Supershrink Your Brain?

Rambo Tribble writes "As reported by the BBC, the journal Neurology is set to release the findings of a study in Oregon on diet and brain shrinkage in Alzheimer's victims. The upshot is: a diet rich in vitamins and omega-3 fatty acids is beneficial; trans fat and fast food are detrimental."

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  1. split the difference... by mekkab · · Score: 4, Funny

    so if I start the day with a green smoothie (filled with raw veg and fresh fruits)... and then gorge myself on BBQ and fries for lunch.. I'm okay, right?

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  2. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by what2123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In short, there is nothing that is not damaging in an excessive amount. A lot of anything will bring bad consequences. This includes anything we consider "good" such as vitamins and minerals and HDL.

  3. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by ThePhilips · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reminded:

    Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.

    --Redd Foxx

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  4. Remember kids: by Spazntwich · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hemp has the perfect ratio of Omega 3, 6, and 9 fatty acids, so always eat your marijuana.

  5. And once again: correlation, not causation by Chemisor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The study found that high vitamin levels in the blood correlated with higher mental abilities, while higher levels of trans fats correlated with lower. The study says nothing about fruits, vegetables, or fast foods. There was also no evidence to conclude that this correlation is causative. They did not take people with high levels of trans fats and put them on a fruit-and-vegetable diet. If that were done, and their scores improved, they yes, they would have been justified in making such a recommendation. As things are, they made no effort to even determine where those vitamins and trans fats came from. If you ate hamburgers and too vitamin pills, you'd have high vitamin levels in your blood too. Another possibility is that people with lower mental abilities tend to eat more junk food with trans fats. That would create the same results in the study.

    So, repeat after me: correlation does not imply causation. If you don't know this, you have no business being a scientist.

    1. Re:And once again: correlation, not causation by JazzHarper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So, repeat after me: correlation does not imply causation. If you don't know this, you have no business being a scientist.

      ...but are still well-qualified to be a journalist.

  6. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by KarmaRundi · · Score: 5, Funny

    One Cinnabon and you're posting anti-science rants on slashdot. QED.

  7. Linking the results to Alzheimers seems dubious by Hentes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFA:

    US experts analysed blood samples from 104 healthy people with an average age of 87 who had few known risk factors for Alzheimer's.

    They found those who had more vitamin B, C, D and E in their blood performed better in tests of memory and thinking skills. People with high levels of omega 3 fatty acids - found mainly in fish - also had high scores. The poorest scores were found in people who had more trans fats in their blood.

    So they found that certain vitamins are beneficial to memory, but as none of their test subjects had Alzheimers there is no basis for any claim regarding the disease. Although I am curious what's in the actual paper (seriously, couldn't we wait a few days posting this until the actual paper is out?).

  8. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by swalve · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is nothing pleasurable about trans fats. They are cheap and stable fats that make processing and cooking food *cheaper* not better. They are margarine and crisco, both of which are nasty and not nearly as good as their natural alternatives, butter and lard.

  9. Re:Live like an ape by Java+Pimp · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't go into the woods too often but there's a pretty fat squirrel lounging under our bird feeder in the back yard...

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  10. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by phantomlord · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fries and soft drinks... they're insanely profitable even with the free refills and if they're self-serve, there is almost no labor component to them.

    I've been out of the restaurant management business for about 5 years, but things couldn't have changed that much. It costs about 3 cents for the cup and about 10 cents on average to fill it (various size cups, not every refill is a full cup, etc). People get their initial fill, most people get one refill, few people get more than one. So, if we just assume everyone gets 2 refills, it costs 23 cents for your beverage, which they sell to you for anywhere from $1.50-$4 depending on the restaurant. That gets you a ~500% profit margin.

    Fries also have a good margin, though there is a higher labor component, the cost of cooking them, keeping them frozen, lowered yield (waste, broken fries, etc). In fact, most fryer side orders are pretty profitable (a half dozen mozzarella sticks might sell for around $5, but you can buy a 4.5 pound case for around $11, which will yield about 10 orders).

    The sandwiches aren't nearly as profitable, particularly the meat sandwiches, but the sandwiches are what get people in the door. A 1/3rd pound burger costs around 75 cents for the meat, 20 cents for the bun, 15 cents for the cheese, and up to another 25 cents if it is dressed. They need to be refrigerated, you lose yield (overcooked, fell apart, etc) and are relatively labor intensive (especially if you patty them yourself). For that $1.40 investment (not counting labor, yield, etc), you sell it for about $3.

    Factor in that somewhere around a third of all of your revenue goes to labor and another 30-40% goes to food costs depending on your model. On top of that, you still have your overhead - mortgage/rent/property taxes, heating/cooling, gas/electric, etc. Profits are pretty thin in the fast food/diner/family restaurant market and without the profitability of the side orders, most of them can't stay in business for long (hell, most of these non-chain restaurants fail in the first year anyway). Upscale/fine dining is a whole different beast.

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  11. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by Quirkz · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, it's like the weimaraner republic, with less dog.

  12. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FALSE:

    As it turns out, fast food is loaded with nutrients. That's not the problem... hell for the vast majority of Americans they get more then enough 'micro nutrients'. IT's the fat and sugars that are the problem.

    But go ahead and believe what the unregulated, low quality controlled, vitamin industry tells you.

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  13. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    No one? who the fuck do you ask, they guy in the mirror?

    There is mountains of evidence that eating a healthy life style and reasonable exercise leads to longer life.

    Does it mean you won't be hit buy a bus? no. Does it mean you WON"T have a heart attack? no. IT doesn't mean you are less likely to. And if you aren't running get a check up before you start, and start slow and short.

    Smoking just doesn't substantially increase the odds you will get certain cancers, it also weaken the tissue in your spring, injures your heart, and a variety of other effect.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&term=physical%20exercise

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=eating%20healthy

    And that's just a start.

    However, you are just making mental excuses so you don't change.

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  14. Re:Yeah, yeah...everything enjoyable is bad for yo by lightknight · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Fast food, last I checked, had adequate levels of macro nutrients, but suffers from a lack of micro nutrients (the levels are too low to be considered 'good' enough as the sole source of food).

    Here's a study detailing fast food / its lack of micro-nutrients and its effects on rats -> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18718129

    Granted, these are lab rats, which ave plenty enough problems as they are, but it does support my argument.

    As for the 'vitamin industry,' I can assure you that I am a scientist, and view their claims with less credibility than you do (goes in the same pile as homeopathy or various cures for cancer via Royal Rife machines).

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