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China Cuts 'Excessive Entertainment' From TV

An anonymous reader writes "Chinese broadcasters have axed two-thirds of popular TV shows in line with a government directive to curb 'excessive entertainment.' From the article: 'The rule, first announced in October, is targeted at what Chinese regulators have called "excessive entertainment and a trend toward low taste," to address the rise of talent shows, dating shows and other such programming aired by China's tightly regulated, but increasingly competitive, regional satellite broadcasters. Authorities also encouraged broadcasters to air more news and educational programming.' according to local media reports."

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  1. Its hard for me to critisize this move. by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I had my own country, I would make reality TV illegal too.

    1. Re:Its hard for me to critisize this move. by msobkow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You have the right to hate any show you don't like and refuse to watch it. You don't have the right to tell other people what they like.

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    2. Re:Its hard for me to critisize this move. by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't like reality TV, either.

      However, I'd personally lead the rebel army that took down your fascist ass. :-)

    3. Re:Its hard for me to critisize this move. by aztektum · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Are people actually choosing to like reality TV?

      Or are they choosing to simply watch what the media companies offer?

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    4. Re:Its hard for me to critisize this move. by daid303 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sign me up!

      And can we take a TV camera with us, would make a nice show ;-)

  2. Yes, concerning, free speech, etc by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But after being pestered by so many Big Brothers and other related horrors, it's very hard for me to frown upon the chinese here.

  3. Irony by Ltap · · Score: 5, Funny

    So Big Brother shut down Big Brother?

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  4. Re:FCC Should take note by kelarius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    TV doesn't make people stupid, it just keeps stupid people entertained and out of the public eye, so why is excessively entertaining media a bad thing?

    Personally I'd rather have my idiots at home glued to the TV than out doing idiotic things...

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  6. Re:Big whoop by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I tried to do that last month, because I had sold my big screen TV, there being nothing but crap on basic cable any more. Instead Comcast made me a 6 month deal to pay less for internet, and still keep TV service, even though I have no way to watch it. My bill is $20 a month less, so I really don't care how they split it, but it's interesting how hard they tried to keep me on TV service. I wonder if they get paid by advertisers according to audience as measured by subscriptions? Then it doesn't actually matter if I don't watch.

  7. Vice Taxes by Hadlock · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We tax the snot out of cigarettes and booze because they aren't healthy for society... we've had a TV in every home for 50+ years now, and parents are exposing their children to TV from birth... if you can't restrict people's use of TV, you might as well remove the incentive to watch it by making it more informational/educational, rather than an "opiate of the masses".
     
    We ended up with the evening news in a response to a federal mandate that X% be used for reporting the news, how much better off would we have been if we'd restricted entertainment to Y% of the total broadcast time? How would society be if we limited mass entertainment? Would local entertainment like playhouses still be much more successful?

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  8. You would think so, but not so much by pablo_max · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are several online services which offer loads of pirated TV shows and even movies. For example, my wife uses a streaming program called funsion to watch HIMYM, Big Bang and other popular American TV shows.
    As of yesterday, those show are no longer available. This was also the case on the two other alternative services.
    Granted, one can use a VPN tunnel, but most people will not be willing to pay money for a VPN which is fast enough to stream.
    I do happen to pay for premium VPN services, but as I was last in China, it was impressively slow. Enough for real google results and such, but not enough for netflix.

  9. Re:All power to China by MattBecker82 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No wonder over 500% of Slashdot users post hyperbole without anything to back it up.

    Seriously, I don't know if you're joking or not, but your post is just false premises, non-sequiturs and made-up "facts". Analysis:

    Excessive entertainment over the tube is one of the lead causes of the downfall of the Western nations.

    You need to establish the premise of "the downfall of the Western nations" (whatever that means), then establish a cause-and-effect relationship between "excessive entertainment over the tube" and the former.

    Turn on the tube if you don't believe me, flip some channels, see how many of the programs are of any value in the first place?

    How are you establishing the "value" of TV programs exactly? By your own judgement as whether it's something you'd like to watch?

    No wonder over 90% of the American high school graduates can't even pinpoint their own country - the United States of America - on the world map.

    Citation needed. Or an admission that you just made this up.

    They have been dumbed down by the entertainment industry.

    Non-sequitur. Even if you establish two concurrent trends, it doesn't mean there is a connection or cause-and-effect relationship between them.

  10. Someone in the Chinese Communist Party... by blind+biker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone in the CCP must have seen Jersey Shore, and decided to stop the trend before it's too late.

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  11. Re:Practical arguments against? by tsotha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When the people are active in a society they question things, get involved in things, and yes challenge things they feel aren't right.

    That's pretty condescending. What makes you think they can't watch a few hours of television and still be informed? When people refer to large groups of people as "sheeple" and wail they won't "wake up" it implies if only people were paying attention they'd think like I think. Well, and stay with me here, maybe they already question things, they're already involved, and they already "challenge things they feel aren't right." Maybe their vision of how things ought to be isn't the same as yours.

    I'm guessing from the way your post is written you're not from the US. I'm at a little bit of a loss to understand why you think we in the US would make our country just like yours if only we didn't watch so much television.

  12. Re:Lucky Chinese by tsotha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why don't you just turn your TV off?

  13. Re:Right because if one place does it it is ok by KazW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously I get real tired of the America basing some people feel the need to do whenever anything about another country comes up...

    2) Not everyone on the Internet lives in America. Maybe they are interested in news about other countries, ever think of that? Stop trying to steer everything back to your country. There are plenty of discussions on /. about the shit that happens in America. Don't hijack others.

    You do realize the GP didn't mention America at all in his comment, don't you? It was only you who mentioned America. In essence, you're doing exactly what you said shouldn't be done.

    I'm Canadian, and I had a similar sentiment as the GP. I think _you_ should stop steering the discussion towards America.

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  14. China is different. Don't you get that? by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The very fundamental ideals of Chinese society place family and the greater community at higher priority than the individual's wants or needs. I suspect the vast majority of the Chinese people actually don't mind this. Those that do can certainly access media from elsewhere in the world -- technology is wide spread in China.

    You really need to get the image of rice farms out of your heads.

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  15. Re:All power to China by MattBecker82 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not looking for watertight scientific proof, but the GGP makes an extraordinary claim (i.e. that excess of "entertainment" TV shows causes the downfall of Western nations), and indeed it's possible this is right, just as it's possible the world is run by a secret society of reptilian fascists. However, the GGP presents it as fact, and with no supporting evidence and only an illogical argument and further extraordinary claims to back it up, I see no reason to accept the claim.

    If he had presented it as opinion (which it is), and had omitted the ridiculous reference to the level of geography fail among US high school grads, then I wouldn't have had any cause to challenge it.

  16. Re:That's true by wisty · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Funny story - the spread of technology in China is almost guaranteed to topple the idiots running North Korea. Firstly, it's made most Chinese despise the North Korean government, which makes the Chinese - North Korean alliance a bit of a farce. Everyone except North Korea (who think China is still their friend) knows that China's only concern now is whether or not it suffer any collateral damage (i.e. bombs, shells, or fallout falling on Chinese soil), and how to deal with the refugees.

    More importantly, North Koreans buy black-market goods from China. This includes iPod clones, many of which will come sold pre-loaded with the best Korean entertainment videos, all of which come from South Korea. It's getting harder and harder to explain that they are so superior, when all the South Korean shows are about families which are 10X richer than the families shown in pro-North propaganda.

  17. Re:Lucky Chinese by horza · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In England they have closed down most community centers, places that used to be used for playing football have been turned into office buildings or parking, nobody wants to go for a run as the air is polluted, the roads are so congested it makes cycling dangerous, travel is expensive, taking up a hobby like photography will probably get you arrested, and why bother learning an instrument as one day you will be able to karaoke to Robbie Williams on stage and become instantly famous without any of that icky hard work?

    People do just turn off the television where I live in France. But then they have put in cycle lanes everywhere, cheap transport so 1e will take you anywhere, there are free football pitches, basketball courts, tennis (nearly free), and the council is always organising events and spectaces. One of the biggest days of the year is "Fete de la Musique" where everybody takes to the streets and plays an instrument or sings in any style they want. There is a web site "On va sortir" where anybody can spontaneously propose an event (poker night, dance lesson, walk in the countryside, whatever) and anybody can register to join in, which is very successful.

    We could do worse than steal ideas from the neighbour across the pond.

    Phillip.

  18. And Yet by d3ac0n · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We still see video of people falling over themselves weeping when Kim-Jong "mentally" ill dies. Not to say that those videos aren't at least partially staged, but some "undercover" video has leaked out of NK showing that at least some of the weeping, wailing and carrying on was genuine. (I apologize for not having a link ATM. Search on YouTube. It's there.)

    Not to say that the new regime isn't weak, it certainly is. But not so weak that ipod clones are going to topple them anytime soon. We see how well "westernization" has "toppled" the communist Chinese government. (IE: Not at all) If Kim-Jong Un decides to modernize and westernize following the Chinese model, Korea isn't likely to see unification anytime in the next century.

    Sadly, there really is only ONE way to absolutely topple a government of any stripe. That's with violent revolution. The only way that Korea will unify is if SK invades and defeats NK. With NK's recent round of sabre-rattling, that's looking more and more likely every day.

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    1. Re:And Yet by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      China knows how to topple a civilization just fine. Give them free fish for years until they have forgotten what a fishing rod is and their children have never seen one, then withdraw the fish. That's how they're beating the west.

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    2. Re:And Yet by d3ac0n · · Score: 4, Informative

      The fall of the Soviet Union would seem to disprove this notion.

      No, it would not at all.

      Note that what happened to the Soviets was NOTHING like what happened in China. In the Soviet model, (Perestroika) over a century of oppression was simply dropped and a totally closed society was suddenly and without warning thrown open to the world. The ensuing reaction was almost predictable; Complete chaos and collapse of the Soviet regime.

      Let us not forget that there WAS some violence that followed. Unfortunately for the soviets, their military decided to side with the people over the government. Tanks showing up at the gates of the Kremlin to close down the government rather than defend it ended the revolution with a victory for Freedom rather quickly and mostly bloodlessly.

      The Chinese noted these events and decided that they wanted nothing to do with it. Remember that the Tienanmen Square incident was right around the same time. For a short time it appeared that Communism was collapsing all over the world all at once. (it was a great moment to live in, let me tell you.)

      Sadly, the Chicoms had no intention to go quietly. They had a very different relationship with their military, and the military rolled Tanks into the square to defend the government and drive out the protestors. The crackdown afterwards was BRUTAL.

      I had a college roommate who was in Tienanmen Square that day. Afterwards he fled China and was accepted into the US under political asylum. He told me how many of his friends "disappeared" before they could escape. That's how bad it was in those days.

      The Chinese later began to loosen things up, but only incrementally, and ALWAYS under government control. Even after foreign companies were allowed in China, it was always under very strict rules. If you didn't play along, they booted you out. (even McDonalds got kicked out.) Over time these rules have loosened, but control has always been in the governments hands.

      What westernization they have allowed has always been with a single goal: To keep the people COMPLACENT. Give them minor luxuries, allow them to keep a small modicum of their natural freedoms and let them get comfortable and lazy. Otherwise, keep them too busy working and living their lives to have time for revolution. (Why do you think they have essentially created an "Island" Internet via the "Great Firewall of China"? To keep revolutionary ideas out while still allowing controlled financial interaction with the rest of the world.)

      It's an ingenious formula and has worked very well to keep the Chicoms in power. If NK decides to follow this model, don't expect a revolution.

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    3. Re:And Yet by AnonyMouseCowWard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is false. My parents were there.

      They cried, because in a tightly controlled country with government media, the loss of your leader is like losing a family member. It's like losing the person the entire country, and you yourself, relied on. They cried because they were at a loss as to what to do. It's losing the person running the country, the only person capable of doing so (or so they believed), and having certainty replaced by uncertainty. If you're a believer, it's like losing your prophet.

      That might not have been the situation for everyone, but for a big percentage of the population, it was entirely genuine.

  19. Re:All power to China by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Flynn Effect

    (Link didn't work the first time)

    Errm, IQ Scores are always centered at 100 by definition. Ergo average IQ score can't go up or down, only the raw survey scores can. Who would have thought that the very channel you praise for not dumbing down the populace would dumb down that fact.

    Erm, no, sorry. IQ Scores are NOT always centered at 100 by definition. As raw scores shift higher, IQ scores will likewise shift higher until the the raw-score-to-IQ-score conversion process is renormalized. How often are they normalized? It wasn't an easy question to answer, but I found one website that claims they are only normalized "every 10 or so years".
    http://www.psychpage.com/learning/library/intell/culture_iq_notes_5.html

    Also, it seems that before the Flynn effect was discovered, there was no such periodic renormalizaion (which makes sense...why would you renormalize before anybody has even discovered that they've become unnormalized). Therefore at the time the Flynn effect was defined, scores were not normalized, and the Flynn effect was indeed described as IQ scores increasing over time. Look around the web. Every single reference to the Flynn effect I can find, even those from reputable sources, describe it as an increase in IQ scores over time. For instance, here's a page on it from a Psychology Professor at Indiana University:
    http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/flynneffect.shtml

    But congratulations on getting a +5 Informative for posting incorrect information. Maybe you should watch more Discovery Channel.