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Pirate Party Leader: Copyright Laws Ridiculous

smitty777 writes "Rick Falkvinge, better known as the leader for Sweden's Pirate Party, recommends doing away with copyright laws since no one is following them anyway. FTA: '...he uses examples from the buttonmakers guild in 1600s France to justify eliminating the five major parts of copyright law today. The first two are cover duplication and public performance, and piracy today has ruined those. The next two cover rights of the creator to get credit and prevent other performances, satires, remixes, etc they don't like. Falkvinge says giving credit is important, but not worthy of a law. Finally, "neighboring rights" are used by the music industry to block duplication, which Falkvinge rejects.'"

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  1. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People don't make art just because they need a quick buck.

    Any artist of any form worth their salt is doing it because they geinuinely like the artform, and would do so pay or no pay.

    This coming from a musician who uploads his music for free download on the internet.

  2. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Giving credit doesn't even enter into it.

    Proper attribution is a part of the moral rights due to an author (and is the only unquestionably valid and supportable aspect of Copyright, IMHO).

    Is a TV set or Microwave oven that much different than a song or a book?

    Yes.

    Unless he proposes putting all authors and on the public teat, I am at a loss to see how anyone can keep writing books any more than I can see why anyone would stock more microwave's in a store from which anyone take anything they wanted.

    Your implication is that without public funding or Copyright, creative works would no longer be produced. History demonstrates how ridiculous this is.

  3. Re:Wrong by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is a limited time. Pirate people just seem to want that limit to be about zero seconds, producers want as much as possible. Obviously both sides are foaming retards who shouldn't get what they want.

  4. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by Pepebuho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, this comes off the royalties paid to Artists. No wonder many of them do not see a cent of royalties because they are still "in the red".
    For the record company it is easy to get a better price than what you see here, but the artist will not see it, the record company lives off the arbitrage.

    In the end, many successful modern artist go direct to the Internet and bypass this sinkhole.

  5. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is one thing that confuses me: at what point did casual entertainment become a useful art?

  6. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, copyright laws GRANT, not preserve, the exclusive right of copying the work to the copyright holder. More correctly, the copyright laws curtail the rights of everyone but the copyright holder to make copies for a limited time.

    This is a considerably different from laws against theft which simply prescribe legal penalties for violating the rights of property that exist independently of those laws.

    That is, copyright legislates against a right for a limited time as part of a bargain to cause more works to exist. Property laws support rights that exist independently of the laws.

    Given that, the looters are doing a very different thing than the copiers.

  7. Re:Exponential Growth by CODiNE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not?

    Because you don't want Disney causing runaway inflation just to keep Mickey out of the public domain.

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  8. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You mean many modern artists who have used previous record company contracts to build a substantial nation-/worldwide fan base. Although there are a few counterexamples (the exceptions that prove the rule), they are fairly few in number.

    Does this mean that artists get screwed? Yes and no. The artists may not make a lot (if any) money, but their expenses can be covered and it's a good opportunity, due to the nationwide promotion and touring, even if the recording doesn't pan out. If you are in the right place at the right time with the right amount of business savvy and right mindset, you can parlay this promotion into a successful music career, even if you don't make a lot of money on the record company deal itself.

    Even better, the record company may drop you after the first couple albums, freeing you with your (now) national contacts to make decent money afterward (at least more money faster than if you played struggling regional artist for years).

    The main issue is to go into the process with your eyes wide open - they will try to screw you. But you can screw back and take any advantages you get. Chances are you won't make money on the record contract, but you can use the contacts and fan base gained in the process to promote your career long afterward and, if you're smart enough, "fail successfully".

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  9. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by dead_cthulhu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An "angel" offering fame and fortune but demanding complete ownership of the artist sounds more like a deal with the devil to me.

  10. Re:He seems to confuse the purpose of copyright by EuclideanSilence · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Suppose a person had memorized a book or a passage from it, or learned to play a song on their own instrument. Copyright can prevent a person from being free to speak or otherwise offer their own knowledge to a willing listener. There's no more important right a person can have than that.