Eben Moglen: Social Networking "Creating Systems of Comprehensive Surveillance"

An anonymous reader writes "Eben Moglen, founder of the Freedombox project, has taken to yelling at journalists reporting about social networks. One wonders if this messaging will work to end proprietary, centralized social networks or not."

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Moglen is right

[jhoegl]

Moglen is right, and that reporter is a moron.

Re:Moglen is right

[genkernel]

Not so, it is well known that facebook compiles information on people who do not have facebook accounts, sometimes referred to as "shadow profiles". Between your friends pictures of you and related informations, your family's pictures of you and related information, your coworker's pictures of you and related information, and easily crawlable information about yourself (contact information on employer's website?), I think facebook can provide fairly comprehensive surveillance. Don't get out much? Facebook can ascertain that, depending on the posting habits of your friends, family and coworkers. Sure, some information will undoubtedly be missed, but I suspect sufficient information can be gathered about you even without a facebook account. And even if they cannot trace it back to you, the "like" buttons are always gathering your browsing habits. I think I even see some here on slashdot...

They are watching, and this time, no tinfoil hat can save you.

Spectacular!

[killfixx]

I teach different college level IT courses and Moglen's sentiments are always part of "Intro" courses.

RMS and Moglen, who would've guessed, 10 years ago, they'd be right?

Paranoia, it's not just for the fringe anymore.

It was the height of folly

[Beeftopia]

When I first got on the Internet in the early 90s, it was the height of folly to put your personal information online.

Nothing I've seen in the intervening years has changed my opinion about that.

Re:Moglen wasn't particularly helpful

[hedwards]

The problem with privacy loss is that you don't know what the damage is until it's too late. I don't personally have a FB account or account on other social networking sites because I value my privacy. But, that doesn't mean that there aren't photos of me online that other people posted, I personally have no control over that and by the time I find out that I've been harmed it's too late to do anything about it.

Re:Moglen wasn't particularly helpful

[hedwards]

You're being obtuse, the point of privacy rights is that you don't know why you need them until it's too late. He answered the question quite well by having my information being spread by other people there are any number of bad things which can result.

There have been many people harmed by an unexpected loss of privacy over the years from politicians that had to resign in disgrace to people that were later blackmailed to the many celebrities that now have their sex lives on the internet because somebody else released the footage.

And don't forget about that teacher that was fired because of a picture of her online drinking out of a red plastic cup, lord knows what she was actually drinking, but she was ultimately fired because of the picture.

PhotoDNA

[ka9dgx]

I've been using Picassa on my PC, which includes facial recognition, the interesting part is the hundreds of people who I have know knowledge of who appear large enough to be recognized and grouped together, merely because they happened to be near someone or something I was photographing.

The news that Facebook is scanning all photo uploads with similar technology really makes me cringe.

Eben is right, and he's NOT paranoid... just ahead of the curve.