Oracle's Latest Java Moves Draw Industry Ire

snydeq writes "Two years later, Oracle's stewardship of Java continues to raise user and vendor ire, this time due to modularization, licensing, and security concerns. 'Plans for version 8 of Java Platform Standard Edition, which is due next year, call for inclusion of Project Jigsaw to add modular capabilities to Java. But some organizations are concerned with how Oracle's plans might conflict with the OSGi module system already geared to Java. In the licensing arena, Canonical, the maker of Ubuntu Linux, says Oracle is no longer letting Linux distributors redistribute Oracle's own commercial Java, causing difficulties for the company. Meanwhile, security vendor F-Secure views Java as security hindrance.'"

Comments

Re:Oracle and Java

[pwizard2]

I've used Java when I need to write a quick-and-dirty program on short notice, but for serious projects I've never considered using Java because

1. It depends on the interpreter/runtime.
2. No native code (unless you count GCJ, but I've never been able to make that compile anything written in the last few years)
3. Java doesn't give you access to much system-level stuff
4. Terrible OS X support
5. Java is still slower than native code for CPU-intensive functions


If you want WORA, Qt with C++ is a better way to go. I've been able to compile Qt projects on any OS without changing a thing and I'm in the process of porting my old Java stuff to Qt.

Re:Oracle and Java

[gweihir]

The language itself is definitely not worth the effort, better learn C (and maybe C++) and some decent scripting like Python or Ruby. Java is a collection of not really working compromises. With Oracle messing things up, the only real argument for Java, namely wide adoption is beginning to fade as well.

So, no, don't waste your time.

Re:Don't understand

[Anne Thwacks]

If you used MySQL or MSSQL instead of PostgreSQL, you should get someone else to kick you, because you are probably too stupid to kick yourself well enough.