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Twitter Comes Out Swinging Against Google's Personalized Search

Meshach writes "Google's release of the new 'Search Plus Your World' feature has elicited harsh words from Twitter's general counsel (who used to work with Google). He claims that the changes will make information harder to find for users and be bad news for news publishers. Some analysts are wondering if this is a prelude to a legal battle similar to Microsoft's bundling of IE."

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  1. people block google; google integrates own service by unrtst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm all for the big brother fear posts about Google getting evil, but this isn't the time. Twitter ended their agreement with Google for a real time feed; other realtime/news sites have been threatening blocking Google; then they get upset when Google says fuck it, introduces their own service, and integrates it.

    What's next? NYT blocks Google indexers and then complains when they don't show up in the top of the search results?

    The social sites have had users data locked up long enough. It's due time they provide API's to users, aggregators, and others. Google seems to want to include as much of this other stuff as it can in its search results... they're not the bottleneck, nor the slippery slope here.

  2. Re:I don't see the problem at all! Am I just dumb? by EdIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think it is possible to elucidate. Had to read the article because I was so confused.

    Twitter:

    Often, they want to know more about world events and breaking news. Twitter has emerged as a vital source of this real-time information, with more than 100 million users sending 250 million Tweets every day on virtually every topic. As we've seen time and time again, news breaks first on Twitter; as a result, Twitter accounts and Tweets are often the most relevant results.

    Google:

    We are a bit surprised by Twitter's comments about Search plus Your World, because they chose not to renew their agreement with us last summer (http://goo.gl/chKwi), and since then we have observed their rel=nofollow instructions.

    Article:

    The new Google service, which is rolling out today, lets search users toggle between personalized and "global" results, with the former including information gleaned from its Google+ social network and its Picasa image-storage service. Twitter reasonably enough sees that move as a threat, since it could well encourage people to share breaking news on Google+ rather than Twitter.

    Ummmm. Huh?

    So.... Google is rolling out a service that you have to opt in for that will personalize search results according to data they collected on you.

    Twitter has already told Google not to index its tweets apparently. Twitter feels that news comes from them first somehow. I can see that being the case in some tumultuous countries, but as a generality? Come on. That's pushing it. Relevant? Really? What about the signal to noise ratio? Verification?

    News publishers might be affected by personalization, but only in so far as their articles that get included would have to match the user profile. Anything else just gets weighted down in the rankings.

    Saying the Justice Department should look into this sounds like Whiny Bitch syndrome coupled with some form of cognitive dissonance.

    If Google is guilty of anything with the personalized search results, which would be less guilty in my mind, they should already be guilty just by doing what they are doing now without personalized results. Their own algorithms should make them guilty by that logic.

    Sounds like Twitter feels intimidated by Google+ and is talking out of its ass.

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  4. Re:I've been waiting for personalized search forev by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you have a google account, you already have personalized search.

    That's why I always make sure I'm not logged into Google when searching. Frankly speaking, 'personalized search' is not a very good idea. It has the potential to boost your cognitive biases until you have a completely distorted view of reality. Hopefully not too many people fall into this trap.

  5. Search and Social Network Bubbling by improfane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is an interesting TED talk about this: http://www.thefilterbubble.com/ted-talk

    Duck Duck Go made this website to reaise awareness of bubbling: http://dontbubble.us/

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  6. Re:I don't see the problem at all! Am I just dumb? by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IMO they are doing it wrong. To stay dominant in search - and let's face it that is where you go when your friends fail you - they should embrace the social Internet as a whole, not try to wall it into their own little piconet.

    This seems to me to be a misunderstanding. Google will index anything they can get their hands on. They aren't indexing Twitter because Twitter told them not to. They can't index parts of Facebook that are relevant to me (ie stuff that I can see because my friends have told Facebook to share it with their friends) because they don't have access to that information (and Facebook have no real right to give it to them).

    The only way Google can get their hands on non-public data shared between friends is if they are the provider those friends have chosen broker that information.

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  7. Most of the times it's very useful, IMHO by YA_Python_dev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not everyone searches "who is better republicans or democrats" on Google. :-) (BTW, the first result for me suggests that the "Democrats are better for the economy").

    When I search for "cookies" I very much appreciate that the first result is the Wikipedia page for HTTP cookies and the second one is the documentation for the cookielib module in the Python standard library. Both are very relevant results for me.

    My grandmother, on the other hand, is probably happier to get a website with recipes.

    People in the US searching for "United" probably want an airline website, in the UK some people might be more interested in a soccer team.

    Disclaimer: I speak only for myself and not anyone else. IANARE.

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  8. Re:I can see a problem with personalised search.. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Obama wanting to make America a country like Europe or Scandinavia.

    Pop quiz!

    Q: What does America, Europe and Scandinavia have in common?

    A: They aren't countries.

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