Twitter Comes Out Swinging Against Google's Personalized Search
Meshach writes "Google's release of the new 'Search Plus Your World' feature has elicited harsh words from Twitter's general counsel (who used to work with Google). He claims that the changes will make information harder to find for users and be bad news for news publishers. Some analysts are wondering if this is a prelude to a legal battle similar to Microsoft's bundling of IE."
I've never wanted to use Twitter.
From the linked article:
I'm not saying that the Justice Department should look into this. I' m just saying that I think they will. I' m far from an expert on this, but I think anyone should be able to see how this is a very slippery slope for Google.
Where exactly is the [potential] problem? I hope someone can elucidate.
These stories made me realise just how crappy google has become; the poor quality search results and unresponsive Javascript interface.
In the market for a new search engine.
I'm all for the big brother fear posts about Google getting evil, but this isn't the time. Twitter ended their agreement with Google for a real time feed; other realtime/news sites have been threatening blocking Google; then they get upset when Google says fuck it, introduces their own service, and integrates it.
What's next? NYT blocks Google indexers and then complains when they don't show up in the top of the search results?
The social sites have had users data locked up long enough. It's due time they provide API's to users, aggregators, and others. Google seems to want to include as much of this other stuff as it can in its search results... they're not the bottleneck, nor the slippery slope here.
Also complained that that new fangled automobile would cause various societal ills. In reality, they were just pissed off that they were being obsoleted.
This is a distraction to get media focus back on Twitter because of the Google search plus announcement. Honestly Twitter shows me the Fail Whale about once a week and their service record is poor for such a large site - so what will they be complaining about next?
Google has been amassing tons of data and is now planning to use that to have personalized search - that is the story. I don't see how they will get around the filter bubble issue. (Never mind personal data protection and other issues.)
As a side I am still trying to wrap my head around Wolfram's blog today about using a TLD .data in relation to the Google announcement.
Bad day for the internet?
I am surprised it didn't hit Twitfail
My problem with Google is that it's never really possible to opt out of their options: for some reason they can't stick to their effing cookies!
I've recently had a lot of trouble with Google Instant and autocompletion: these are features I do *not* want, and yet, it doesn't matter how many times I deactivate them in the search settings, there's always some caveat where it can turn back on - "google instant will be reactivated if you blink the left eye while typing with your left finger on any google page" (or will be reactivated on all incoming searches from Chrome).
Very often, the only solution is to manually game the search parameters: figure what (if anything) can turn all these extraneous additions off, and then turn them off. I'm pretty sure I'm going to face the same annoyance with this: I already see the switch "show personal results"/"hide personal results", and I'm sort of definite about the fact that no matter how I set it, it will tend to get switched back to "show personal results".
(BTW, since I've started ranting, I might add this unrelated tidbit: how many times do I have to "revert to the old look" in Gmail for them to understand that I *can't* stand their new look for Gmail, and will hold out until the VERY END???!
Coming out "swinging" would have been more like "that's nothing, we have an answer to this that you will like even more!". This is more like a kid in the playground saying "no fair, I wasn't ready, do over!"
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What has Google's offer of "'Search Plus Your World" got to do with Microsoft's bundling of IE ?
Can someone educate me, please ??
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
To use the service, people have to OPT IN --- which means, they have to
CONSCIOUSLY MAKE THE DECISION,
KEY IN THE CORRECT INFO AND
CLICK THE RIGHT BUTTON,
before they are allowed to use the service.
All Google does - and I am not employed by Google or any of its associates - in this case, is to offer a service.
To say that Google is "evil" in this case is like saying the late Mother Teresa did what she did for the sake of publicity.
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
I remember (not fondly) the time when entering *anything* into a search engine yielded pages of "Sexy nude girls" results. I don't miss that "unbroken" internet at all.
The one leaning slightly right will see more and more search results showing that low tax is good, social provision bad, Obama wanting to make America a country like Europe or Scandinavia. This may move their opinion to the right slightly, so they will click on further right wing sites where they will start to see stories about "death panels" in Europe, global warming being fictitious and Obama wanting to make America a Muslim country, etc.
The one with centre-left tendencies will see stories about corporations putting out false information on global warming, how European countries have higher levels of health at a lower cost, etc. but hardly any right-wing rebuttals. He may move slightly further left, and then see searches saying that democracy doesn't work because all parties are the same, how republicans want non-Christians barred from official positions (without the context that it is one or two extremists), and so on
You end up with two centre-moderates moving to opposite extremes.
Excellent reason to move on to engines like DuckDuckGo (http://ddg.gg)...
I have DDG set as a default on some computers. I really like the privacy. The first few results are very often useful and interesting; especially the nice way the structure different results so you know which are official sites etc. This really shows there is space for and a need for a new search engine competitor. The fact is though that if it's something where you have to look a little further (e.g. a local business with a somewhat common name) it just doesn't cope. If you know that you can also feed through to Google (with a !g .. or images/news etc. with !i/!n etc.) then that lets you stick with it more easily. In the end, however, the main thing DDG does is remind me exactly how good Google is. I really hope they can come up with a new / better search engine which delivers results which are overall as good as Googles.
Anyone have suggestions for improving DDG's default results?
P.S. Please make links clickable when posting;
=~ s,(.*),<sarcasm>$1</sarcasm>,g if any_point_you_wish();
Well, it worked for some time, but lately even when looking for some completely innocent words, like e.g. "frog" I tend to get only kinky results. (Don't ask, you don't want to see...) I could not remotely guess how this should in any way reflect my personal interest. (And I did delete my browser history in forehand, also I by no means did not look at any kinky stuff, off course.)
Trolling is a art!
yes, exactly, and this looks more like Twitter being scared of competition to me
If you have a google account, you already have personalized search.
That's why I always make sure I'm not logged into Google when searching. Frankly speaking, 'personalized search' is not a very good idea. It has the potential to boost your cognitive biases until you have a completely distorted view of reality. Hopefully not too many people fall into this trap.
There is an interesting TED talk about this: http://www.thefilterbubble.com/ted-talk
Duck Duck Go made this website to reaise awareness of bubbling: http://dontbubble.us/
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Not everyone searches "who is better republicans or democrats" on Google. :-) (BTW, the first result for me suggests that the "Democrats are better for the economy").
When I search for "cookies" I very much appreciate that the first result is the Wikipedia page for HTTP cookies and the second one is the documentation for the cookielib module in the Python standard library. Both are very relevant results for me.
My grandmother, on the other hand, is probably happier to get a website with recipes.
People in the US searching for "United" probably want an airline website, in the UK some people might be more interested in a soccer team.
Disclaimer: I speak only for myself and not anyone else. IANARE.
There's a hidden treasure in Python 3.x: __prepare__()
You can disable the indexing of your web history, effectively disabling "personalized search" at the same time.
If I recall correctly, Google no longer provides search of Twitter posts due to Twitter's deal to support Google's real-time search expired (presumably because Google didn't want to pay as much as Twitter wanted.)
Apparently, Google currently can't index Twitter's own real-time activity due to lack of an agreement, and now Twitter is incensed that Google has the audacity to index Google's own real-time activity. Outrageous!
You can disable the indexing of your web history, effectively disabling "personalized search" at the same time.
Is it really disabled, or do they just stop showing it to you?
I'll trust Google to figure out how to make information easier to find. That's their job and so far they've been pretty damn good at it. Twitter sucks at search.
or else!