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Doctor Warns of the Hidden Danger of Touchscreens

snydeq writes "Dr. Franklin Tessler discusses the hidden stress-related injuries of touchscreen use, and how best to use smartphones, tablets, and touch PCs to avoid them. 'Touchscreen-oriented health hazards are even more insidious because most people aren't even aware that they exist. The potential for injury from using touchscreens will only go up ... as the rise of the touchscreen means both new kinds of health hazards and more usage in risky scenarios,' Tessler writes, providing tips for properly positioning touchscreens and ways to avoid repetitive stress injuries and eyestrain."

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  1. good job they don't have pointy corners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    you could have your eye out

  2. Not this again..... by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More hype to sell the same tripe.

    Seems to be simply latching onto the current fad toy and trying to saddle it with the same things they have been attributing to computers since the 80's.
    There is nothing new in the article, simply attributing the same (largely imaginary) "diseases" to a different activity. But by mentioning touch screens they grab the headlines. Nothing about a touch screen forces you into the same position, viewing distance, or hand movements, in fact a tablet is probably the remedy for such complaints more than the cause.

    But they trot out the same stuff they were crying about with desktop computers: Repeated motion injuries, Posture, Eyestrain.

    I'm surprised they left off testicular heating.

    Really? Touch screens?
    This looks like building a case for more insurance fraud if you ask me.

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    1. Re:Not this again..... by MoonBuggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I...get repetitive stress injuries easily (had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car)

      Genuine question: how does lifting a keg equate to repetitive stress? I can understand pulling a muscle or something, but lifting something in and out of the car once or twice seems far from all but the most excessive definition of 'repetitive'.

    2. Re:Not this again..... by iamhassi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      More hype to sell the same tripe.

      Here's the reasons listed in the article:
      --Repeated motion injuries, like using your thumbs to type
      --unnatural postures and forces, such as tilting their hands too far inward or outward while tapping or putting force on their wrists while typing.
      --Eyestrain, either because the characters and images aren't clear or because the screen is obscured by glare or reflections

      Although the article also contradicts itself: "tablets and smartphones almost guarantee such awkward use because they can be accessed almost anywhere and in any position -- most of which involve poor posture."

      But doesn't that also mean people can hold the devices in more natural positions, making them far safer than PCs or laptops? Also the same argument could be made that books are dangerous because they can be accessed almost anywhere and in any position.

      And that's pretty much the entire article. Nothing to see here, move along.

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    3. Re:Not this again..... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car

      I drive one handed every time I see an attractive woman.

      I'm not going to ask who drives the car when you see two attractive women...

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    4. Re:Not this again..... by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 4, Funny

      and get repetitive stress injuries easily (had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car),

      Fuck man, if you got injured from repetitively lifting beer kegs into your car...
      and you're not doing it for a living, you have other problems.

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    5. Re:Not this again..... by Kelbear · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's wrong with waving hello?

  3. My wrist hurts! by coldsalmon · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm wearing a wrist brace right now because I held my Nook Color one-handed for too long over the course of a couple of weeks. Obviously I can't say for sure that this was the cause of my pain, but it gets worse when when I hold it in one hand only, and better when I use both hands or support it some other way. I wish I had thought of this before I started using the Nook. Yeah it's not a problem of national concern, and the article uses absurdly alarmist rhetoric, but these are real sources of pain and it's always good to have tips on how to avoid pain.

  4. I can see it now by pak9rabid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple: You're touching it wrong.

  5. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've already experienced mild RSI in the thumb after somewhat excessive touch screen use. Same as with mouse and keyboard use. I don't see why this would be something to write off. Rather, it is obvious that it would become a problem at some point.

  6. Because it pertains to nerds by Compaqt · · Score: 5, Informative

    What are you talking about? Good on you for having great health.

    Meanwhile plenty of geeks suffer from computer-related health problems. The most common up to now has been carpal tunnel or repetitive stress syndrome.

    The advent of touchscreens means people are bending their necks downward for extended periods. For many/most it may not be a problem.

    For others, it can result in cervical spondylosis, a debilitating condition of the neck.

    The reason for such articles is to encourage people to take preventive measures. One of the best is Workrave, a break reminder program for Win and Lin. Click to install. (Deb/Ub/Mint)

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    1. Re:Because it pertains to nerds by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 3, Informative

      What are you talking about? Good on you for having great health.

      Meanwhile plenty of geeks suffer from computer-related health problems. The most common up to now has been carpal tunnel or repetitive stress syndrome.

      One trip to a REAL doctor and you'll find that CTS, really doesn't
      exist for people that use computers, correctly.

      I can give you the number to a real Dr, if you'd like to talk to him.

      I'm sure he would have loved to make the money from the surgery
      on my ex-wife's wrist. Instead, he said... adjust your chair height
      to where your arm, at 45 degree extension, will have your radius/ulna
      parallel and about an inch above the desk surface. Buy a gel pad
      for the kb and the mouse and you'll be fine in a few months.

      And she was.

      I had the same thing... absolutely crippling pain from the base of
      my palm, all the way thru my shoulder-blade. I raised my seat,
      maybe an inch. Gone in months.

      If you have your chair at the wrong height... put too much weight
      on your wrists when you type and mouse... you will get symptoms
      that appear to be CTS and RSD... but aren't. CT scan will prove it.

      Myth, busted.

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    2. Re:Because it pertains to nerds by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

      The advent of touchscreens means people are bending their necks downward for extended periods. For many/most it may not be a problem.

      I doubt that. People have been reporting problems before touch screens. Blackberry users, for example, but also people who text a lot on their non-touchscreen phones.

      The medical condition is real, but the cause is not - it's not a recent thing brought on the explosion of touch screens - it's been around for years. Notably brought on because the folks with blackberries (out over a decade) tend to be older businesspeople and thus experienced it years before. Or people texting on their phones for nearly two decades now. And young kids have been glued to their Nintendo portables for nearly 2 1/2 decades.

    3. Re:Because it pertains to nerds by jdgeorge · · Score: 3, Funny

      Umm.... so, your point is that you agree with the parent's advice to prevent the issues from becoming a major health problem.... Got it.

    4. Re:Because it pertains to nerds by eulernet · · Score: 3, Informative

      Adjusting your seat is a good advice, but you should also change your position.
      When your body starts to hurt, just listen to it, and change your position by straightening your back, it's very simple and effective.

      Also, I recommend using a Trackball, because it's the horizontal movements when using a mouse that hurt your wrist.
      I personally use a Microsoft trackball, mine is at least 6 years old, and still working nicely.

  7. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    pussy

  8. You should try tablets by symbolset · · Score: 5, Funny

    You wouldn't believe the RSI potentials here. Just chiseling a single line of text gives me blisters.

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    1. Re:You should try tablets by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're touching the screen while there is porn on it... I hate to break it for you, but you're doing it wrong.

  9. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Funny

    You want to talk RSI? try playing Street Fighter II on the SNES for 16 hours straight. I had to have thumb splints for months!

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  10. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is the sort of thing that makes me stare at fighting game players in utter incredulity. How and why would anyone ever put up with such ridiculously tiresome finger movements for so long? It's probably healthier to get into an actual fistfight!

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  11. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by jdgeorge · · Score: 4, Informative

    Touchscreens are awesome, and they are the future of a lot of human-computer interaction. They're simply not a substitute for a real keyboard, or a properly arranged physical workspace.

  12. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come on.

    To piss you off.

    Seriously, that's the only reason. It's posted to troll you, personally.

  13. I'd like to take you seriously . . . by hideouspenguinboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    But, your use of, commas, has driven me to, bang my head, against my desk . . .

    . . .resulting in CST. I got a gel pad though so I'll be fine in a few months.

    1. Re:I'd like to take you seriously . . . by swanzilla · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who cares about the commas? What I hate is the constant line breaks for no apparent reason.

      The web browser handles text formatting no reason for you to make it mobile sized.

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  14. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Touchscreens are awesome, and they are the future of a lot of human-computer interaction.

    No, touchscreens suck ass. They're only good when you're doing very basic operations which don't require much control.

    The only device I use on a regular basis which might not totally suck ass with a touchscreen is my e-book reader, and even there I'd much rather press a button to go to the next page than have to make some stupid gesture.

  15. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by bipbop · · Score: 3, Informative

    They aren't necessarily tiresome. Some people can play games all day without hurting themselves.

    Musicians learn to avoid building up muscle tension, both in the muscles they use, and sympathetic tension in the muscles they aren't using. They learn to keep good posture, keep their wrists relatively straight, to breathe properly and so forth, and these skills get passed down to new musicians.

    The same skills apply to video games. But there's no "classical video game technique". People tense up, have terrible posture, and generally do things that will hurt themselves if they keep it up long enough. It's totally natural, and takes training for most people to avoid it.

    I'm not proposing any particular solution to this, but I think some basic training might help with the sort of people who injure themselves playing video games. Certainly the ways to avoid RSI are non-obvious, whether you're playing Street Fighter or sitting in an office typing all day.

  16. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by jdgeorge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Musicians learn to avoid building up muscle tension, both in the muscles they use, and sympathetic tension in the muscles they aren't using. They learn to keep good posture, keep their wrists relatively straight, to breathe properly and so forth, and these skills get passed down to new musicians.

    Musicians also learn to take breaks, not to play too long at a time, or (as frequently happens) they end up with injuries that are destructive to their musical careers. They cannot play all day without hurting themselves, regardless of how awesome their form, posture, and breathing is.

  17. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're only good when you're doing very basic operations which don't require much control.

    Which covers surprisingly many activities (time-wise). You listed one yourself - book reading. Now also think newspapers, and everything else online that's "consume only" - i.e. where you don't rush to post a witty comment as soon as you read it, as is the case on Slashdot.

    The perfect device would have both touchscreen and keyboard+mouse/trackpad/trackpoint, and will adjust to whatever controls you're using at the moment. We're already seeing this emerge with Asus Transformer, Lenovo Thinkpad tablet, and other similar devices on hardware side, and Win8 (and, to some extent, Android) on software side.

  18. Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? by davester666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Um, those aren't musicians. They're noise-makers.

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  19. Biggest danger of touch screens by Glonoinha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honestly the biggest danger of touch screens isn't the RSI - it's crashing your car.
    Don't ask how I know this.

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  20. Will someone think of the children!? :P by ed1park · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've seen parents give their little kids iphones to keep them busy/distracted, and they will stare at that the phone for hours watching videos just 5-6 inches from their faces. This has got to be bad for their eyesight especially when they are 3 or 4 years old still developing...