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Ubuntu TV: Coming Soon To a Living Room Near You (Video)

Apple TV is a little device you hook to your television. Ubuntu TV (motto: "TV for human beings") is going to be inside your TV, says Peter Goodall, Canonical's Product Manage for Ubuntu TV. At CES, he described Ubuntu TV to Timothy Lord in detail. Join them via Slashdot Video to see what's up with this Ubuntu venture, which has lots of competition; "Smart TV" was a major CES catchphrase this year.

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  1. Smart boxes not TVs by Monoman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I personally would rather see the TV makers stick to making the displays and let other companies like Roku, Boxee, Tivo, etc handle the "smart" parts.

    We have a Samsung smart TV too. We use Hulu quite a bit but have found that the Hulu app appears to suffer from lag sometimes. However, on our older TV (not smart) we have a Roku we use for Hulu and it never experiences the problem. If the TV lags bad I just pause the show on the smart tv and then go resume it on the Roku.

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    1. Re:Smart boxes not TVs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. There is no money to be made on it after the sale of the TV for the manufacturer, and therefore no incentive to maintain / upgrade the service; or even fix it if it's broken. This is not a good business model for the consumer.

    2. Re:Smart boxes not TVs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have a Sony Internet TV and Hulu experiences frequent lags. If we stream from Amazon Prime then we never have any problems. I wonder if it's the Hulu client in the smart TV which is actually the problem.

      I hate having a TV with the programs built in. We are at the mercy of Sony to push updates to our Internet TV. Hopefully Sony will continue to support the TV and send me frequent updates to fix some of the performance problems in the TV. If they stop supporting the software then my TV is worthless. In retrospect, I would prefer to have a separate box so I'm not stuck to vendor lock-in.

    3. Re:Smart boxes not TVs by Idbar · · Score: 3

      No. It's annoying! It's annoying having a tv with plenty of features that go to waste because you end up plugging in one our two our more boxes to input ports. And each one requires anything else to remote control it properly (i.e. Some features are only available through their particular remote). I loved the idea of a smart tv, because it's like having my computer connected to the tv, without the extra boxes and cables.

    4. Re:Smart boxes not TVs by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you have an HDTV, the standard interface is marked HDMI.

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  2. Integrated Computers & TV's dont mix by frith01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Computer hardware changes a lot faster than the display components. There is only a limited market for integrated devices unless they are strictly re-formatting/ receiving streams over IP.

    Of course, manufactures would LOVE for you to buy an Integrated device with TV today, so they can sell you a brand new shiny toy in 3-5 years when your display gear no longer works with DRM version X.

    Look at all the VCR / TV combo's sitting in the garage sales cause they dont play DVD's , etc..

    1. Re:Integrated Computers & TV's dont mix by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The VCR/TV combos that I saw were always portable TVs. I quite often saw them in office environments, where they could be moved to where ever training or a presentation required them. In such a case, a separate TV and VCR wasn't a good option, because of having to carry 2 items, and the hassle of rewiring them together each time they were moved. And they probably had a useful life of, what 10-15 years?

      For large screen TVs, building a VCR in wasn't very common. I imagine there was such a product but I never saw one.

  3. Debian TV by psergiu · · Score: 4, Funny


    apt-get update
    apt-get install latest-tv-show

    Then to get the latest episodes:

    apt-get update
    apt-get upgrade

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  4. 2012! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Year of Linux on the...TV...?

  5. The real problem by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The conventional wisdom which I'm sure we'll soon be subjected to, is the problem this device has is content, where will they get the TV equivalent of top40 content, etc.

    The real problem this device has, is why would someone buy it instead of apple/roku/homebrew mythtv/boxee/tivo/xmbc/android tv... any others I've missed? What makes this one special other than its a different manufacturer trying to do the same thing. If anything I'm curious how well this device conforms from a user perspective to the boring standard model all the other developers are using. Even the idea that something new or unique could exist in this market is unthinkable.

    The /. car analogy is good luck trying to tell commuter vehicles apart when trying to purchase a new car. The marketing materials are useless because they either insist that you'll get laid if you select their car, or they're puffed up with useless comparison charts (stereotypically you'll have a column of something like "number of tires" all being 4 in each row, or ships with a steering wheel all having a "Y". Why have that column?). The salespeople just want to sell you the most expensive car with the most expensive dealer addons and the most expensive possible financing package. Your friends will provide mostly useless anecdotes about their individual car's maintenance history and peculiar favorite parts, which mostly tells you more about them than about the car model in general. Any decision making data about use, comfort, reliability, economics are simply unobtainable.

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  6. A solution looking for a problem by grimmjeeper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just don't see the big consumer demand for these smart TVs. Even among my gadget loving friends, the interest in smart TVs can be described as lukewarm at best. Sure, the integrated capability to stream content from providers other than the cable/satellite company does appeal to some. But I just don't see people banging down doors to get this integrated into the TV. If anything, I see more people using their TVs as big monitors for their PCs and game consoles.

    Perhaps it's just the cynic in me but I see this more as a push by the advertisers as a means to get more of their content delivered. All of the providers will relish the opportunity to embed ads, either in their UI or in their content. Yet another business model being pushed on people who don't really want it, if they care at all.

  7. Same here by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But id like it for a different reason. I just want a simple pane of glass that displays video. I don't want or need all the extra stuff.

    Doing this just makes them more expensive, more prone to break and repair even worse. Oh, and more controllable by other parties upstream

    Like having an integrated DVD player break on a 2000 TV and you are hosed with a huge bill.. when all you really needed was a 25 dollar one attached to the back of it.

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  8. Smart idiot box by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Beware anything the marketing department label as smart.

    Only general purpose computers are "smart". Everything else is a gadget or toy.

  9. Re:XBMC on a Raspberry Pi by shish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    XBMC already runs nicely on the pi; the software-rendered GUI maxes out the CPU (I'm not sure if this is before or after the software renderer improvements they're working on), but hardware accelerated 1080p30 playback is fine - one of the XBMC developers was given access to an alpha board IIRC. Apparently the integration is one of the many things the Pi people have been asked not to talk about, so I presume things are brewing behind the scenes and they don't want to be assaulted with questions until it's 100% finished.

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  10. Samsung is working on this by zerofoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Samsung is working on a "user upgradeable" TV with plug in modules. There was little detail about it at CES this year, but it appeared from the demos that you could plug in modules to upgrade CPU, operating system, and image processing components.

    I don't know exactly how much of the TV is upgradeable, but Samsung suggested that most of the important bits of the TV could be upgraded this way.

    -ted

    1. Re:Samsung is working on this by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Interesting
      http://www.samygo.tv/

      Lets you install linux on recent Samsung TVs. It's the same code Canonical grabbed to make their "Ubuntu TV" - so you too can be 133t at next year's CES with your own brand of RedHatTV, or SuseTV, DebianTV, or SlackTV (TV for Slackers!). Turn your TV into PVR and record to USB, etc.

  11. Fix the damn interface already. by ponos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about a decent interface for a desktop Linux-based OS instead of a horrible interface for netbooks, laptops, 24", tablets and TVs? How about they get that right for a start...