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2011's Fastest Growing Language: Objective-C

mikejuk writes "Every January, it is traditional to compare the state of programming language usage as indicated by the TIOBE index. So what's up and what's down this year? The top language is still Java, but it's slowly falling in the percentages. Objective-C experienced the most growth, followed by C# and C. JavaScript climbed back into the top 10, displacing Ruby. Python and PHP experienced the biggest drops. If you like outside runners, then cheer for Lua and R, which have just entered the top 20. However, I have to wonder why Logo is in the top 20 as well. I know programming education is becoming important, but Logo?"

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  1. Objective-C growth by bonch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Objective-C's growth in popularity coincides with the Flurry Analytics study that showed most mobile developers targeting iOS, with support for Android dropping by a third over 2011. C# will probably continue to see increasing interest because of WinRT. Lua is unsurprising because of its popular use in games, and they just released 5.2 last December. What I find most interesting is that plain old C is set to overtake Java.

    Of course, if you don't take the Tiobe rankings seriously, than all of this is moot, but I guess it's something to talk about on a Friday.

    1. Re:Objective-C growth by Smallpond · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Let's compare it to the number of unanswered questions on stackoverflow.com for various language tags:

      c# 31971
      java 28099
      javascript 26978
      php 26755
      objective-c 11749
      python 9078
      c++ 8024
      ruby 5080

      C, Perl, Basic, Lisp, etc - none

  2. C# by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is the real story not that C# is 3rd up from 6th!

    1. Re:C# by Bryan-10021 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Java is slowly dropping from enterprise usage and is being replaced by C#.

      Really? Show me where C# is slowly replacing Java in the enterprise? On the server side Java has no competition. If C# is replacing Java then that would mean companies are also replacing UNIX with Windows as it's the only platform that supports C# (forget Mono). That's definitely not happening.

    2. Re:C# by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "I see NetWare and UNIX getting replaced with Windows. It's cheaper than either of those options"

      O rly?

      It's weird: I'm seeing Solaris and other Unices being replaced with Linux. Rock-stable solid and 100% free Linux distros btw.

      There are even entire *continents* now (cough, Europe, cough) where announcements are made that countries should favor open-source and free software over commercial OSes making $$$ fly to the U.S.

      Despite the fudged TCO studies sponsored by M$ and linked by astroturfing M$ shills here, lots of people deciding the IT budget are starting to realize that they do not have to pay the M$ tax.

      "The only area where Microsoft still hasn't won is in reliability" -- Add price, security and performances. And you may be on to something...

  3. Notes on the trends. by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interesting. Objective-C up (presumably because of iPhone usage), C# passes C++, and Python in a screaming dive.

    The languages that are on the way down suffer from mismanagement. The C++ committee went off into template la-la land years ago, focusing on features used by few and used well by fewer. Python had a "Perl 6" experience - von Rossum pushed the language to Python 3, which is only marginally better, no faster, and incompatible. That seems to have hurt the language's market share.

    The languages on the way up are rather similar. They're strongly and explicitly typed, compilable, memory-safe (mostly), and have garbage collection. That describes Java, C#, and Objective-C, and even Delphi. The only exception on the way up is Javascript, which has progressed from being an awful language to a pervasive although mediocre one. Javascript does have the advantage of fast implementations, unlike Perl and Python.

    These stats, of course, are based on what people are blithering about on blogs, not what's implemented in them.

  4. Logo by LateArthurDent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've seen logo used a lot in multi-agent systems research. It just lends itself well to that, with every turtle being an agent.

  5. Explaining LOGO is easy by anyGould · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You need to show a bunch of six-year-olds how to program in an hour? Here's LOGO. Here's your turtle. Type FWD 20, watch it move forward. Five minutes later, the kids know all the basic commands. Put a maze in front of them, let them figure it out. Congrats - they're programming with a computer.

    LOGO was my first programming language, back on an Apple II with a big honkin 5 1/4" floppy disk drive. It was the eye-opening "OMG these things do more than Oregon Trail?!?!?" moment.

  6. Re:The top 20 by Hatta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cheers for R! I didn't expect to see a statistical programming environment on this list, but I'm not surprised either. R is getting really big in bioinformatics, which is a burgeoning field right now. I used R myself more often in 2011 than in any previous year, and I'm sure I'll use it more this year. If you use Excel, especially if you use macros or VBscript, you should give R a look. Steeper learning curve, but far more powerful and rewarding.

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  7. Re:Objective C by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm in the midst of a pretty large image processing project for OS X, and the UI "wrapper", which is minimal, is in ObjC, but everything else is in C, implemented as a library. So we barely code in ObjC at all.

    Seems to me that terms like "must" are being thrown around here without any real knowledge of the options available.

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