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Automated Machines To Recycle Phones For Money

judgecorp writes "EcoATM is going to install machines which give money for old phones across the U.S. The system, shown at CES, takes a photo of any phone or other gadget put in its tray, and provides a data cable (for every kind of phone?) to check it is working. The machine offers a quote based on the current used price, and pays up on the spot."

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  1. Stealing phones? by AliasMrAlias · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems stealing phones just got a lot less risky...

    1. Re:Stealing phones? by deniable · · Score: 4, Funny

      AFM = Automatic Fencing Machine

    2. Re:Stealing phones? by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Informative

      From their FAQ:

      What happens if my phone is stolen and someone tries to cash it in?
      ecoATM kiosks have a variety of features in place specifically to deter stolen phones from entering our system. These features include the ability to capture;
      Drivers License or Govt ID
      Credit card
      Digital signature
      Fingerprint
      Picture / Video of consumer via webcam
      Address & email
      Date & location of transaction
      Details of what was collected, including the serial number
      ecoATM kiosks are also capable of refusing to transact any phones found in the databases that tract reported stolen phones.

      Presumably which ones are actually used will vary from country to country and according to the agreement with the retailer who hosts the unit.

      I'm sure the determined thief can find their way around these. But then they can already sell to a pawn broker or on ebay. A few of the dumber criminals might get caught.

  2. Re:of course not by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But what prevents theft?

    These machines are not going to hand out cash like an ATM, because they'd have to be refilled and they'd have to be more secure.

    The machines will probably require you to insert an ATM card or credit card, so your identity will be associated with the transaction and the stolen phone you just tried to sell it. Even better, maybe they'll give you a coupon or "gift card" good for 10% off a new phone (upon activation of 2 year contract).

    Eventually, the penalty for selling a stolen phone to this machine will be death, because you tried to take money from a corporation. Stealing the phone itself will carry a penalty of a $5 fine because all you did was steal from a human being.

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  3. How much do they pay though? by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The big complaint I have with used cellphones, at least here in the USA, is this:

    Most people obtain their new phone with a 1 or 2 year contract, so the phone's price is heavily subsidized up-front. You might get a $700 phone for $200, or a $400 phone for $50. You wind up paying its full price, of course, but only as you pay your monthly bills to finish off your contract (or pay the ETF to get out of it sooner).

    Problem is, the used market generally views these devices as though their actual VALUE is relative to the subsidized prices, not the TRUE prices.

    As just one example? My Sprint HTC Evo 4G is just under 1 year old right now, and when I got it, it was the "rock star" of phones on the Sprint network. There was really nothing better they could sell you, even if you wanted it. Currently, Sprint has a "trade in" offer where you can send back your old phone for credit on your future bills (not even cash!), and my Evo is worth a whopping $80, if in "excellent condition". Never-mind I'm probably still paying Sprint more than that for the phone, as I use up the remainder of the 2 year contract I had with it!

    And judging from my experiences with most of the "cellphone recyclers" out there I'd talked to, I suspect they pay even LESS on average. Their business models usually revolve around the idea that plenty of people value their used phones at "basically zero", considering them a waste of space, or extra junk lying around.

    If you've got a plain old flip-phone of some sort (hardly matters what make, model or how new) -- because it's used and not a "smartphone", I'd say you'd be lucky to get even $5 - $10 for it from most recyclers. That's one hell of a depreciation rate, when you consider a lot of those were "military spec" Nextels and such, that their owners only recently got done paying hundreds for in their contracts.

    I've consistently found I got FAR more out of semi-recent model used cellphones by reselling them on Craigslist or even eBay, vs. recycling them. People who don't want long contracts but need reliable cellular service with a major carrier quickly realize the real value of these used phones, and are essentially the only customers you'll have who'll pay you a fair price for one.

  4. You know what would be even more green? by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep your old phone.

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