Genes About a Quarter of the Secret To Staying Smart
ananyo writes "A Scottish intelligence study that began 80 years ago has borne new fruit. Researchers have tracked down the study's surviving participants — who joined the study when they were 11 years old — to estimate the role that our genes have in maintaining intelligence through to old age. After conducting fresh intelligence tests on the surviving participants, the researchers tested the DNA samples they had collected for the presence of more than half a million common genetic variants, each affecting only a single letter in the DNA sequence of the genome. The team then calculated whether these variants were associated with cognitive stability — how well intelligence had been maintained over time. The sample size of 2,000 people was too small to grant the statistical power needed to track down individual genetic signatures associated with cognitive stability. But it was enough to estimate how much genetics contributes to cognitive aging. The team found that these variants accounted for nearly one-quarter of the differences in cognitive stability."
It's not genetics but other factors, presumably mental exercise, diet, etc that contributes 75% to keeping your intelligence intact as you enter old age?
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Comparing the intelligence and genes of those who did and did not survive to 90 would also be interesting.
Have they found any yet?
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I'm sorry, it is not acceptable to attribute any intelligence to genetics, no matter what your evidence.
In fact, the very idea of identifying a measure of "intelligence" and correlating it with outcomes is racist.
This research must be purged. [/current state of intelligence debate]
Information theory is life. The rest is just the KL divergence.
The study only sampled a subset of the genome (certain SNPs), there could be other variations in the genome that contribute even more. We simply can't tell from the study. All we can say is that this study suggests at least a quarter of the variation is explained by the subset of the genotype they have sampled.
Please, rephrase that headline "Genes About a Quarter of the Secret To Staying Smart" to represent the more meaningful summary's text "quarter of the differences" so that they mean the same thing.
The headline is grossly misleading.
Moreover, while I haven't read the article I actually suspect is says a quarter of the variation somewhere...
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Past studies have found as much variations within "races" as between "races" so it was probably deemed not useful enough. How unfortunate for you.
But I'm wondering what is the other 50% of the secret.
What are the other two fifths?
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In this particular study? No. That's not what they were looking at.
Other studies have been done which tend to show a difference on IQ tests. But the reason for the difference is hotly disputed. There is simply insufficient data to show that the gaps are because of or in spite of genetics.
It's complicated stuff. One thing we *do* know is that there are factors besides genetics which influence IQ, Look up the Flynn Effect for an example of the complications that arise when trying to attribute racial intelligence gaps to genetics.
Because the IQ tests I have seen are all very bad measurements of intelligence.
Regardless of the outcome of such tests, I'm pretty sure you would be dragging down the results for whichever unfortunate race(s) you are a member of.
Just use your fucking brain to keep learning stuff and doing stuff that takes brain power.
Don't sit around reading Harlequin Romances, watching football, internet memes or the like. That shit really rots your brain.
If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
The /. history has articles about taxi driver training leading to neural restructuring in favor of mapping and geographical awareness.
Apparently, Taxi Driver training also has some *negative* side effects on one's mental state though!
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Bingo. I also realize that was a joke, but I've argued with people who think that intelligence is not heritable, but support evolution. I point out that man's ancestors were less intelligent, so clearly in order for man to become more intelligent over time, intelligence must be heritable to some degree.
Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
Comparing variation between and across races has no bearing on whether one race is, on average, smarter than another. Try reading The Bell Curve. It's unfortunate, disheartening, politically incorrect, etc but true that some races are smarter than others, on average.
Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
I have a friend who is six inches taller than me. His wife is six inches taller than mine.
Who is taller, the men, the women, neither, or both?
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You don't whack your head on stuff nearly as often.
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I said it before and I will say it again: you cannot give a number like x% of your intelligence is determined by genes unless you define the variation of your genes (difficult, but doable in theory) and the variation of your environment (nearly impossible) first. That is because logically, in very similar environments (such as some egalitarian countries) genes will dominate, and in a homogeneous gene pool the environment will dominate.
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Exactly!
"but I've argued with people who think that intelligence is not heritable, but support evolution"
Have we met the same people?! :D
This is what I come to slashdot for; a biologist (or other field in other threads) giving clear explanations or clarifications for something interesting. Thank you, Ms. Wright!
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What is race? Are you attempting to link intelligence to skin color? Head shape? Fast-twitch muscle fibers in the legs?
Scientists don't know what race is for this purpose because simply going "hyuck, we all know black people have dark skin and big ol lips hyuck hyuck" isn't anything to base research on due to a huge number of genetic differences - as different within dark-skinned peoples as between dark- and light-skinned peoples. In short, there is no "black" or "white" for any purpose except social ones.