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DOJ Investigates Google, Apple, and Others For 'No Poaching' Agreement

CSHARP123 writes "The Department of Justice launched an investigation into the 'No Poaching' agreement between Apple and Google in 2010, but details of the case were only made public for the first time yesterday. TechCrunch was the first to sift through the documents, and has uncovered some ostensibly incriminating evidence against not only Google and Apple, but Pixar, Lucasfilm, Adobe, Intel, and Intuit, as well. According to the filings from the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California in San Jose, these companies did indeed enter 'no poach' agreements with each other, and agreed to refrain from soliciting employees. The documents also indicate they collectively sought to limit their employees' power to negotiate for higher salaries."

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  1. Re:So what? by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Union actions are public knowledge. Whatever benefits the union gains are slightly counterbalanced by businesses' responses and negative reactions from the public and politicians. Corporate agreements are not public. Someone looking to be hired by one of these companies cannot use it to their advantage in the decision-making process, and they avoid any public reaction.

    If they want to make these "corporate unions" public they're welcome to have them, but the clandestine nature of the agreements makes it obvious that they already know that there'd be hell to pay.

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  2. Re:So what? by ByOhTek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In general, employers, especially ones where unions are present, are a relatively small number of groups that wield a lot of organized power.

    Conversely, unions, ostensibly*, represent the employees and potential employees, a group which usually has more total power than the employers, but lacks the organization to wield it effectively, often wielding it only to the extant that the weakest and most desperate individuals in the group are willing to wield it. Why? because the employers will take those first, as they are cheaper, and this makes those that were trying to get fair compensation, instead of just any compensation become the weaker and desperate*. Unions can balance the ability to wield power so that the employers are move likely to provide fair compensation. Large employers typically don't need this assistance.

    * There are quite a few unions I've seen that seem to only absorb chunks their member's paychecks without actually providing any benefit in bargaining with the employer, effectively acting as a lamprey on capitalism. These days I'm not sure if this is the exception or the rule... At one time, it was the exception.
    ** there are exceptions to this rule, however, as this is the most profitable way to run a business (get the cheapest labor that will give you the desired quality), this tends to be the trend, and companies not following it will be less profitable, and therefore grow less than companies that do.

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  3. Re:Who's Missing? by CyprusBlue113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More likely no one trusts them to be a member of a cartel and not stab them in the back.

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  4. Re:Cartels fall apart by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    news for you, that's what cartels do, they put government in their pocket! it's called corruption. all cartels involve government

  5. Re:So what? by PPH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No soliciting is one thing. And I don't really have a problem with that either.

    But try working in an area where employers have a 'do not hire' policy. You quit one job and everyone else tells you they won't hire ex-employees of certain companies for a period of time. You might as well step out of the bushes and surrender when you hear the slave hunters' dogs approach.

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  6. cartels by pr100 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hang on. Isn't this essentially trying to operate a tech-labour market cartel?

  7. Re:Cartels fall apart by hedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not a prisoner's dilemma as the parties are in regular contact and in the prisoner's dilemma a large part of it is that there is no communication between the parties. A cartel is always going to be better for the individuals than going alone, that's why they form cartels and why antitrust regulations seek to prevent it. OPEC itself has had no problems existing for decades.

  8. Re:Ooooohh. by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get a load of that coincidence. it 'coincides' just 2 days after sopa protests, and involves almost all major technology companies that have major stakes on internet. Just like how the megaupload bust 'coincided' a day after sopa protests, yesterday.

    Your assumptions of government competence are staggering.

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