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Air Force Says Iran Didn't Down Drone
First time accepted submitter QQBoss writes "The Air Force is not saying what caused the RQ-170 UAV to crash in Iran, but that Iran's claim to have forced it down is erroneous. The drone didn't come down and land gently as Iran had suggested it did. At least Iran got a good photo op, though the more interesting question is what technology will they be able to glean from what they did capture."
If they did, I very much doubt they will say anything about it.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Do people expect the military to admit that their drone wasn't hacked and gently landed? Of course they're going to save face here. I don't trust their PR department any more than I trust any other PR department.
Yeah, Lawyers vs. Mullahs.
I can only hope they annihilate each other.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
Why doesn't the drone have a self-destruct functionality?
I mean... isn't this like the ultimate reason for that functionality? So that technology doesn't get into enemy hands? Just like spies having these suicide pills?
Oh well... seems like this one doesn't have any.
Imagine if this was a U2 or similar piloted vehicle instead of a drone. We'd be preparing the bombers right now, along with special congressional resolutions condemning the Iraqis to death for "capturing" one of "our boys." Meanwhile the Iraqi government would be parading him all over Tehran, mostly for the western media to slobber over.
Instead we get a few jokes on Leno and the Daily Show, and a lot of diplomatic posturing.
No doubt we're going to war with Iran no matter what the American people want, but at least not over a spyplane (for a change).
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I'd buy that for a dollar!
Why, without your clothes, you're naked, Miss Dudley!
It is extremely unlikely that Iran "hacked" the drone and landed it.
You are right not to trust the US government stories. But, Iran is not especially trustworthy either.
The most likely story is: the drone lost signal, or had some sort of mechanical problem, and glided to a crash landing. Iran picked up wreckage - which was probable not that bad.
The real scenario:
Drone crash-lands in Iran due to software bug.
Iran hauls drone away in pick-up truck, gives it a paint job, and makes it the centerpiece of a propaganda campaign.
Never attribute to advanced spycraft that which can adequately be explained by incompetence.
It wasn't so much hardened, as much as it was just made on such a crude process (over 1 micrometer) it was largely unaffected by radiation.
hell I throw away machines a dozen times more powerful than that old POS chip.
There are more important aspects to a chip that is supposed to be used in an aircraft than processing speed. Radiation resistance, temperature sensitivity, having a frame that can withstand 9G over time and twice that at emergencies, etc. count for more than having more processing power, even if the result is that you are using a less powerful chip.
The reason the 386 took so long to be replaced wasn't because of some slow working committee. It is because the economical pressures at ground levels are different, causing chip makers to produce chips that are indeed faster, but less suited to the operating conditions inside a fighter aircraft.
I didn't know they actually found an alternative. Maybe they didn't, and are just so swell stocked up on 386s that they feel there is no need to pay the cost to Intel of keeping the old production line open.
Shachar
You believe all the distortions, half truths and misrepresentations sold to you by the CNNBCFox?
It is impossible to retort to those who play in imaginary sandboxes. I'm glad that - at least - you didn't pay for that brainwashing.
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Never been known to fail..."
Noise jamming is not "technical wizardry." It is the crudest form of electronic jamming known to man. It's the "hail mary" of the jamming world. If Iran used it, they did so because their technology is primitive, not because they had inside information.
Well, it did work. Seeing as they successfully netted themselves a USAF unmanne drone with simple noise jamming (if that is indeed what happened), anything "more sophisticated" would have been wasted effort. Like picking the lock on a door when the window is wide open.
If a half assed regime could down a multi-billion dollar super high tech weapon with shit bought at Home Depot, people might question if all those juicy contracts are really necessary.
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
If Iran used it, they did so because their technology is primitive, not because they had inside information.
Which technology is more primitive? The Iranians with their crude jamming, or the multi-million dollar drone which is clearly easily defeated by said crude jamming?
If a half assed regime could down a multi-billion dollar super high tech weapon with shit bought at Home Depot, people might question if all those juicy contracts are really necessary.
That is ridiculous. Drones are pretty clearly necessary, so finding an actual vulnerability would generate more contracts to fix the problem, not fewer from the elimination of drones.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell