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Google Updates Algorithm To Punish Websites With Excessive Ads

hypnosec writes "Google has decided to take punitive actions against those websites that flood the top of their web pages with ads due to which the visitors have to scroll down to finally view the relevant contents on the page. According to Google, this type of layouts annoys the users and thus the web search company will be penalizing those websites through search results. The company disclosed this on its blog. According to Google over the top ads is not good for user experience and thus such websites might not get high ranking on Google web search."

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  1. except google by PiMuNu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Presumably not punishing google ads (ducks)

    1. Re:except google by Fluffeh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Presumably not punishing google ads(ducks)

      Google ads aren't generally splashed over the entire top of the intial screen loaded page. While I don't want to sound like a google shill here, I really don't get how they make their money - aren't google ads generally little text areas with "Advertisement" written above them? I am not one to click on ads, but I know that I have clicked on a few by mistake - but never Google ones that I knew of - they really seem to make their ads be known as ads.

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    2. Re:except google by d3ac0n · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No need to duck. You are likely correct.

      I personally expect every kind of ad save Google Adwords and other Google-based ads to be equally punished after awhile. Google makes their money primarily from advertising. Why in the world would they help people who buy from their competitors? Makes perfect sense.

      Oh, and before anyone gets all upset, this isn't "monopoly behavior" This is just smart business. You don't help your competitor advertise, particularly on your own network. When was the last time you saw an ad for the CBS evening lineup on ABC or NBC? (Hint: Never)

      If you are uncomfortable with this arrangement, may I suggest Bing or Ask as alternative search engines?

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    3. Re:except google by Talderas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It would open them up to anti-trust lawsuit since they're using their majority market share in the search business to hurt competitors in the advertising market.

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  2. Re:I don't believe by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you're supposed to stop buying your ads through the obnoxious ad network that does these ads and buy through google to come up in google search

  3. Google is like an evil Mr. Rogers by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and that good for you mayor villain from Demolition Man. They try to say it's good for you when all they are doing is trying to lock out the competition

    1. Re:Google is like an evil Mr. Rogers by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's hard to jump on the Anti-Google bandwagon on a move like this. Google's ads have historically been unobtrusive and don't break the flow of a page. Some of the "competition" on the other hand is the very reason adblockers exist.

      Having once seen a full page advert that had a broken close function and actually outright prevented me from getting to the content I want I for one welcome this move.

  4. Shouldn't be surprised by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the war for eyeballs, a search engine needs to produce the "best" results for your query, and provide meaningful, useful pages at the top of the list. If your searches on a given provider just bring up link farms or pages which are so strewn with ads that its hard to find the content, you're going to try another search engine. Google makes its money by getting people to search using their engine, and by delivering relevant ads.

    I'm a bit surprised they haven't been more aggressive at weeding out crap pages. Or it could just be that they're losing market share, and they looked into why people were going elsewhere.

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  5. Re:I don't believe by vlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that Google does this for altruistic reasons. Where is the snake under the grass ?

    Profit. They don't want to be known as the search provider to be avoided because they point to link farmers / aggregators / web spammers.

    If 90% of power users actively decide to block site X because it completely sucks when logged in using

    http://www.google.com/reviews/t?hl=en

    Then they may as well block that site for everybody.

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  6. Re:Google, please don't... by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it will probably make it more useful

    every time i search for SQL related info i get crap from exchange-admins or some site like that where a forum question is on top and the rest of the page is ads and a link to make me sign up and pay for the rest of the posts. why can't google link to free info first?

  7. Re:Some people don't need this by jakrmaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not about what people want, it's about what Google wants. They don't want to send people from organic results to ads owned by other ad networks, they want to send people to their own ads in search results.

  8. Re:I don't believe by Xest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well it's not entirely altruistic, but it's still beneficial.

    The problem is sites like Expert Exchange, any IT person will have searched for an IT problem and got an Experts Exchange link only to click it and find nothing but ads - so many professional IT workers don't realise that the content is actually hidden away at the bottom, after pages of fake blocking content trying to convince you to subscribe such that many go to the page, scroll down a bit, see nothing but ads, then leave the page and try a different link.

    If this happens too often people wont get fed up with those sites, they'll get fed up of Google not returning nice results and Google risks losing them to the likes of Bing and Yahoo.

    So sure it's not altruistic, it's about keeping users on board by providing the most pleasing results to users as it can, but it's still a good thing IMO.

    Many people today probably don't even remember the pre-Google search engines, where you'd far more frequently have to click well past the 1st page of results to find what you want, and had to click into and exit out of far more results because they weren't what you wanted.

    The fact is, if Google first searches based on relevance of content, and then given roughly equally content relevance to the search query then starts ranking those pages based on how pleasant they are to use then that makes searching a much less stressful endeavour. As a search engine, the user experience of a search engine is somewhat linked to the user experience of the results it returns - if two search engines return the same results equally ordered by relevance, but then one of them ranks the most pleasant to use sites first where relevance is pretty much identical, which are you going to use? The one where you have to deal with annoying sites to find your answer, or the one where you don't?

  9. Re:Some people don't need this by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing wrong with that. Google grew to be the most popular search engine by understanding and implementing what is most acceptable to users of a search page.

    Applying the same sort of rating when ranking results is a logical extension and only makes Google more attractive to users.

    Next step: deprecate Flash.

  10. Re:I guess Slashdot is screwed by asdf7890 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One ~100px tall advert isn't going to trip this, even if it is full page width.

    The intention as I see it is to "punish" sites where, on common browser window sizes, you need to scroll before you see anything that isn't advertising of site logos.

    It could be a pain for sites that use images an other binary objects for what should be textual content, but they need a slap any way.

  11. Re:There are no acceptable ads. by PortHaven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even much worse...

    The upcoming HTML5 ads which will be as invasive as Flash and just a resource hogging. But have NO ability to disable to turn off. ;-)

    Welcome to the world you requested.

  12. Noscript by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except those ads will have the same Achilles heel of all ads; they're served from a relatively small number of large companies, and so can be taken out with noscript.

    If a site served an ad from their own domain, it would waltz straight though my defences, but I can sleep soundly knowing that will never happen.

  13. Re:Some people don't need this by bjourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then youtube should also be punished because it is using lots of obnoxious ads above the fold. Even worse as they are often in flash and therefore competing with the video player itself for resources.

  14. Re:Some people don't need this by somersault · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think a simpler answer is that blocking "ad farm" type pages will simply improve the relevance of search results - no matter where the ads are coming from.

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  15. Re:Some people don't need this by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think parent post has it right.

    Google is now feeling pressure from Bing (why do feel the urge to write that as 'Bling'?) and this is an excellent move in differentiating its main product from competitors. It is now offering something a large segment of the market is going to appreciate rather than attempting to be everything to all customers.

    I may be mistaken, but I do not believe any other search engine has the resources and sophistication to do the kind of analysis that this approach requires on the kind of scale involved. It looks like an excellent way for Google to leverage its strengths in differentiating its product from the competition.

    I use Adblockplus, Noscript, and Betterprivacy so on first approximation what Google has done would not seem to affect my browsing habits much: I generally do not see the ads in question anyway. But on looking more closely at what is going on, this move by Google is likely to cause a lot of marginally useful web designers to start using better practices, and that will tend to make everyone's web experience somewhat better, including my own.

    And if I use the new Google, which I probably will, I will be less apt to spend my time on shoddy web sites.

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