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Canadian SOPA Could Target YouTube
bs0d3 writes "The music industry is seeking over a dozen changes to Canadian anti-piracy bill C-11, including website blocking, Internet termination for alleged repeat infringers, and an expansion of the "enabler" provision that is supposedly designed to target pirate sites. Meanwhile, the Entertainment Software Association of Canada also wants an expansion of the enabler provision along with further tightening of the already-restrictive digital lock rules. It's concerning that some of these expansions will create a risky situation for legitimate websites, as SOPA did in the U.S. Michael Geist outlines the legal history and complications here."
Looks like the citizens of every country are going to have to stay on careful guard these days. When the music industry loses in one country, they just shift focus to another for a while (then later try to sneak back in under the radar where they lost). I guess they're hoping they have the money to wait everyone out. Sadly, they may be right.
Couldn't someone start a rumor that this bill is anti-French? At least that would get Quebec to come out against it. Of course, that's a pretty dubious ally. But you take what you can get.
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probably it's time to get interested in namecoins...
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So it isn't just American stupidity then folks. Quit claiming your countries are so much more just and infallible.
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I've had it. I liked the idea of requesting gamer journalists to refuse to cover E3 as long as the ESA supported SOPA, but I don't think that's enough anymore. If E3 is abandoned en mass then the ESA could easily die. They need to be turned into a public example to everyone else. This needs to become a year without E3.
Blindly doing whatever the US does.
"I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
Apple, Google, Microsoft, IBM, HP, Toshiba, Samsung and Comcast should just create a consortium.
The purpose of this consortium would be to buy up the media companies and put a bullet in their head .
It's time we stopped the tail from wagging the dog here. It's just good business.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Can we link to Michael Geist's actual article rather than that horrid looking ActivePolitic website?
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Please, C-11 does nothing of the sort.
C-11 is really just renaming some things in the original copyright acts, doesn't change the fact you must go to court to prove your case before having someone's website pulled, charged or anything.
It adds a bunch of non-specifics about the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT in the law), that we signed and never actually changed our copyrights to agree with. Its you know only been 10 years since the Liberals signed it and had not done anything about it Federally.
Also, most of the law, is worded to match that agreement, especially relating to internet sharing, however, the law was written not targeting the "service providers" and "users" as the agreement was originally signed and the American's adopted it as the DMCA, it actually appears to only target the people who are hosting/running the services. Which is following the spirit of the Supreme Court ruling about P2P file sharing being legal, as long as your not advertising, or benefiting through the copyright infringement financially.
Which seems to be why they added this part:
(2.4) In determining whether a person has infringed copyright under subsection (2.3), the court may consider
(a) whether the person expressly or implicitly marketed or promoted the service as one that could be used to enable acts of copyright infringement;
(b) whether the person had knowledge that the service was used to enable a significant number of acts of copyright infringement;
(c) whether the service has significant uses other than to enable acts of copyright infringement;
(d) the person’s ability, as part of providing the service, to limit acts of copyright infringement, and any action taken by the person to do so;
(e) any benefits the person received as a result of enabling the acts of copyright infringement; and
(f) the economic viability of the provision of the service if it were not used to enable acts of copyright infringement.
It is all about whether your providing a "service" to aid in copyright infridgement. Not actually the users. MegaUpload = No good, Torrents/Gnutella shared among peoples personal computers = okay still.
You can't FORCE people to buy your product. You need to make your product desirable to buy!
Half the industry in any sector is doing this now. We're tired of being ripped off by paying to watch crappy movies, buy an entire CD when only one song is good, buy a video game to play it for five minutes then realize it sucks and so fourth. Demos are virtually gone, trailers are misleading, prices are higher out here for everything.
There have been movies streamed off the net I've watched. I was bored and had nothing to do. You assume I would buy it, some of these movies are TERRIBLE and I would have never bought it in the first place. I'd just find something else to do. You keep assuming any person who ever watched or listened to your content would have immediately bought it giving you $$$. You're wrong, so wrong.
I've played video games before buying them, like Mass Effect. After that I immediately bought it, and the second one as soon as it came out, and will immediately buy the 3rd as soon as it comes out too. That's because it was a quality product and I loved it.
I did the same thing with Starcraft 2, played it at a friends, loved it, bought it. I didn't buy it at release because I wasn't sure if I'd enjoy it.
I still haven't purchased SWTOR because I don't know if it's that good, I saw a few videos, haven't played it. For the cost versus time playing it, not worth it to me right now.
If I could play the first few levels to try it out and see if I like it, I might buy it. I work for my bloody money and I'm tired of every single person thinking their product is so good that they deserve some of my money!
So many artists would be ignored, people would not buy their music, or listen to it that much, watch movies by directors, go out to theater, recommend it to other people if the restrictions where always 100% you have to get some of my money before I get to know if it's worth it.
People would just do other things more and spend less time with digital media.
Actually, this could be doing society a FAVOR, we'll stop giving as much money to these corporations, spend more time at bars socializing or going to events.
Then we'd spend less money on huge TV's since we use it less, less on hard drives to store media, less on monitors.
I'm not saying it'd kill the industry, but they have this magic preconception that suddenly sales would super boom. They forget that people are strangled by high rents, gas prices and low wage jobs and that's a big chunk of why their crap isn't selling.
with out media companies there is no threat to the internet?
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
that you exported your shit over there. your idiocy in your own country allowed the private interests to set up a globe spanning racketeering operation.
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I kinda hope they succeed, pass the law and block YouTube, Facebook, and every site the feel might be infringing on a copyright.
Why? Simple. The backlash will force the law to be repealed, and it will forever be scarred into the memory of everybody on the planet, preventing other SOPA-like laws from being passed.
if (it != oneThing) it = another;
Wait, I though Canada had a levy on all CDs and magnetic media (Flash as well?) so that the recording industry could get compensation for piracy?
They get compensation, and the power to block or take down sites? That seems like a bit too much of a handout to a particular industry for my tastes.
I'm out of my mind right now, but feel free to leave a message.....
Although I am truly all for this idea, you are aiming low. Cut the friggin head off by going for Chris Dodd directly, although the lobbyists are scum, they are following orders. Take out the person giving the orders and you neutralize the lobbyists.
Of course whomever would be crazy enough to do this would spend the rest of their life in jail.
I only suggest this because the law not only has no effect on these people, they can buy any law they want. Since the law is ineffective society needs needs other means to deal with this issue.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
Canadians are passive and will allow this to roll through largely uncontested, just like all the tariffs that are STILL slapped on anything that can play music in spite of the fact that most devices these days have online music stores built into them meaning the tariff is largely charged against people who are legitimately using these devices to buy music.
The fact is Canadians should rise up against the CRTC which largely allows the Big 3 Canadian telco's to charge whatever the f*ck they want for their [insert sh*ty] services without any consumer protection and then these telcos make it difficult for any "competitive" re-sellers to operate. CRTC is limiting what services like Netflix can bring into Canada. CRTC is allowing such bullshit as SOPA like FUD into Canada. CRTC is ensuring price fixing and regular gouging of customers through mandatory fee increases.
If there is any organization that is less in touch with the 21st century telecommunications is an organization that was set up for radio and television transmissions. If there is any organization less committed to protecting consumer rights, its the good ol' Canadian Radio and Television Commission.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
Look into the history of the top Canadian Conservative Party players. Not the vast majority of Cons that are no more than potted plants, or seals trained to bark and clap for their masters. From the politicians to the apparatchiks to the guys in the third party non-profits, you'll find that the key people are all close to the Republicans.
They've worked under the top republican spinmasters, the top republican spinmasters have worked under them. They've helped campaign for republicans in the US, then come back to implement the dirty tricks and lying, spinning, right wing corporate PR complex up north.
So if you guys could have kept all your fascists and their fascist training on your side of the border, that would've been great.
Harper's actually a brilliant politician. If you look at him carefully, he says what people want to hear, then dismisses what they don't by couching it terms they want to hear. At the same time, he discredits his opposition using brilliant words that people want to hear. Everything else he buries.
Think about it. Right now, we have the whole pipeline thing in BC. Harper has couched it in "JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS" and "EVIL AMERICAN ECOTERRORISTS". And that's all he's saying, ignoring that the oil companies he's backing are majority owned by international interests. So the big story is how all the eco groups are foreign funded.
It's also how his attack ads work - making us fearful of the party leaders.
Quite brilliant because the people lap it up.
Final example - cutting of corporate tax to BELOW the US (!). The funny thing about that is all the US companies are effectively subsidized because they have to pay at least the US tax rate, so low Canadian tax rates mean that the US goverment is getting revenue from the companies that weren't paying anything before. So the Canadian taxpayer is helping the US. (Nevermind the whole John Deere (?) thing where he handed them a bailout, and they promptly shut down the factory to relocate to the US). Again, all couched in "JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS"
Brilliant policitian. Just not someone who governs well.
Please, C-11 does nothing of the sort.
C-11 is really just renaming some things in the original copyright acts
Shilling much?
Go read Section 41 then come back to apologize for your ludicrous statements.
C-11 criminalizes the circumvention of DRM for any purposes whatsoever, including bunt not limited to exercising your fair dealing rights. Want to rip the DVD that you bought in order to watch it on your iPhone? Congratulations, you are now a criminal for circumventing CSS.
Bloody liar.