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OzLog: Unlimited Private Data Retention For Australia?

AHuxley writes "Australia would like to follow the EU down the 'European Directive on Data Retention' path. Law enforcement agencies may have the option to request a log of all a users of interest telco usage without any review or time limits. From the article: 'The proposal — known popularly as ‘OzLog’ — first came to light in June 2010, when AGD confirmed it had been examining the European Directive on Data Retention (PDF) to consider whether it would be beneficial for Australia to adopt a similar regime. The directive requires telcos to record data such as the source, destination and timing of all emails and telephone calls – even including internet telephony.'"

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  1. Like in Europe, except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    That in Europe data retention is only for a finite amount of time, and can only be used to investigate major crimes, e.g., murder and terrorism (the real kind, not the US kind). Recent rulings by European courts confirm this (no IP addresses should be given to investigate copyright infringement).

  2. Re:IF it can be done it will be done by Psychotria · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why on Earth should my telephone calls (source and destination) be logged and retained indefinitely? A "framework governing the user of the data"? Are you crazy? Any national framework governing the use of the data is next to useless. Once the data are there (recorded) no "framework" will guarantee how the data are used in the future. If I want to telephone my mother there is NO REASON AT ALL to log this. Indeed, if I want to telephone my drug dealer (I actually don't use drugs, but it's an example), there is NO REASON AT ALL to log that either. There is no "positive" (as your comment suggests) to this stupid proposal.

  3. Re:IF it can be done it will be done by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The solution is to "accidentally" dial the wrong number several times for every one time you dial the correct one. Eventually there will be enough complaints about the system and the data itself will be such complete worthless junk that they'll have to do something about it.

    And by something I mean probably ban people from dialing the wrong number.

  4. Re:Tits up by rohan972 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This does raise an important question: do eyes in Australia roll in the opposite direction from ours in the U.S.?

    No, downhill, just like anywhere else.

    You can run your own tests, the victims won't be able to identify you.

  5. EU Data Retention Directive by silanea · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh, you mean the very same EU Data Retention Directive that has been condemned by the EU's own data protection authority, slammed by legal experts and is currently under evaluation within the European Commission and which, after being found in violation of the European Convention on Human Rights in Romania and staggeringly overpowered in Germany, will probably be either restricted so severely it will not matter much anymore or, if enough political pressure can be built in time, completely taken back.

    Yeah, looks like a winner to me to introduce into your country now.

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  6. Re:IF it can be done it will be done by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These people have no idea at all. I have younger relatives who don't have an email address at all, preferring to do everything via social networks. Then there is of course Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo et al.

    Then there are tools like this Track Me Not http://cs.nyu.edu/trackmenot/. Tools like this will extend to every communications medium to flood records with junk connections, basically multiply by a factor of thousands the information to be stored.

    Computers are great at filtering and correlating data, they are even better at creating junk data making any filtering and correlation impossible, GIGO.

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  7. Only hurt those at the bottom rung... by fostware · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This will affect those stupid enough to use their ISP's email address, and call on their normal landline or contract phone.

    Others will use IRC channels, (occasionally) instant messaging, cycle through disposable or free web-mail accounts, use pre-paid no-contract mobiles using forged details, or just keep bribing those handling the data - just as they've done before.

    In fact this really is just theatre with a few headlining arrests to come... (which will be arranged through the previous wiretaps, investigation, and existing lawful methods)

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