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11 New Multi-Planet Star Systems Discovered

Posted by timothy on from the ok-now-sort-on-forest-moon dept.

astroengine writes "The number of known multi-planetary star systems has just tripled. What's more, the Kepler space telescope science team has just announced that they have doubled the number of confirmed exoplanetary sightings made by the observatory. Some of the newly discovered worlds are only 1.5 times the size of Earth, while others are bigger than Jupiter. Fifteen exoplanets are between Earth and Neptune in size, but further observations will be needed to determine if any have a rocky surface like Earth, or a gaseous consistency like Neptune."

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  1. More of them? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    This isn't going well. Every month there are new planets, new solar systems.

    Soon we'll be surrounded!

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    1. Re:More of them? by X10 · · Score: 4, Funny

      We should organize them into some sort of federation.

      Good plan. I'll be the emp^H^H^Hcongresperson.

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  2. Rocky? by PPH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    rocky surface like Earth

    More like a liquid surface, statistically speaking.

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  3. With all due respect to Fermi.... by forkfail · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... one of the following appears to be at least probable:

    1. There really is something weird about our dual-planet system (tides, etc) that makes life truly rare.

    2. It really is impossible to go FTL, meaning we're stuck in our system, and had probably stop treating it more like a sewer than not. (Also: 50 generations to Motie-hood!)

    3. Intelligent life has a propensity to kill itself off.

    Doesn't look so good for us.

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    1. Re:With all due respect to Fermi.... by ModernGeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd consider the fourth option, that we've only had human history for 6,000 years, good records for less than probably 2,000, and that we're in the boondocks. If we had been visited, the chance is that there just isn't evidence of it, and that we'll either have to wait to be visited again, hope that other civilizations see our radio transmissions and see it as worthwhile to come here, or go out there on our own and see what's out there. The problem is that our technology is young, we are young, and there really isn't anything that interesting about us.

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    2. Re:With all due respect to Fermi.... by Princeofcups · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd consider the fourth option, that we've only had human history for 6,000 years, good records for less than probably 2,000, and that we're in the boondocks. If we had been visited, the chance is that there just isn't evidence of it, and that we'll either have to wait to be visited again, hope that other civilizations see our radio transmissions and see it as worthwhile to come here, or go out there on our own and see what's out there. The problem is that our technology is young, we are young, and there really isn't anything that interesting about us.

      I have a fifth option. Maybe our level technology and scientific understanding is NOT the be all and end all of the universe, and we are looking for the wrong things. Imagine a colony of ants deciding that there is no life other than ants because no one else (humans) is reading and answering their chemical trails. The ants have no idea that we use sound to communicate, and cars to travel. Believing that radio communication and launching hunks of steal into the cosmos for travel are the only options may be very presumptuous. Give us about a million years to mature as a species, and then maybe we'll be able to "see" what's really around us.

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    3. Re:With all due respect to Fermi.... by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Maybe they took a look at how we treat the rest of the planet's people.

      We don't help the thousands of people dying of thirst in Africa. Unemployed drug addicts are put in prison instead of rehab. We'll dump our waste where our kids will find it. We use slave labour to make our toys.

      Then they decided that our overall planetary mores are to not help, and they are respecting the wishes of our species.

      Or maybe we're the equivalent of goldfish, except not as cute and we can't be housebroken.

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    4. Re:With all due respect to Fermi.... by the+gnat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If there IS intelligent life out there, I have serious doubts that they consider us being under the same umbrella as them

      Actually, that's my least favorite Star Trek cliche - the benevolent, highly-evolved, omnipotent alien race that sees humans as mere children, either unworthy of their time, or in need of friendly guidance (and hectoring lectures about killing each other). I would say exactly the opposite is more likely to be true: any alien species aggressive and inventive enough to explore space is guaranteed to have endured warfare and ecological destruction in recent memory. Species that lose their aggression will stay at home smoking pot, eating takeout, and watching cartoons until they all die of boredom and/or congestive heart failure. That doesn't mean that they'll find our behavior at all intelligible; if a space-faring race was highly collectivist (either by evolution or by engineering), they might find our individuality and the violence that it often leads to incomprehensible. But I doubt they'll have managed to avoid strip mining, fossil fuels, or nuclear fission in the course of their technological development, and they'll probably engage in practices that we would find abhorrent, like compulsory euthanasia.

      That doesn't necessarily mean that they'll advertise their presence to us - there are a number of good reasons to avoid doing so, which would apply even if we were a pacifistic agrarian species. But I absolutely think they would study us, because they won't even be exploring interstellar space unless they were either exceptionally curious, or exceptionally desperate. I personally find it more likely that intelligent life rarely makes it out of their home solar system in person - although I'd wager that there are a few scattered derelicts full of cryogenically frozen alien colonists drifting for centuries.

    5. Re:With all due respect to Fermi.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unlike your hypothetical ant-human, we can observe and acknowledge other forms of communication ... such as ant chemical trails... Thus we are not so naive as your analogy would suggest. Not that we couldn't be ignorant of galaxy scale communication systems, but we're better equiped than you suggest.

    6. Re:With all due respect to Fermi.... by jd · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't see why so many people equate aggression with the thirst for discovery. Aggressive societies don't always do much in the way of exploration (several of the Andeman Island cultures being examples) and have a propensity to self-destruct when they expand too far (the Romans, the Norse, the British and the Americans being examples).

      True, passive societies don't always do much in the way of expansion either, but to assume that this is a purely linear spectrum just doesn't match what we know of societies or indeed people.

      Even the simplest models of individual behavior need four independent variables (Briggs-Meyers) and these clearly differentiate between tendencies to discover vs. tendencies to control. Politics is usually defined along three additional axes which do not equate to any of the behavioral axes. Aggression-Passivity isn't amongst any of the axes so far, so we need to add that as well. So societies require at least 8 parameters to describe them, probably a great deal more.

      We aren't remotely advanced enough to know what ranges of values within what parameters would make for safe vs unsafe contact. 95% of the problems between cultures on Earth are down to that fact alone - and that's with us being 99.5% identical. We certainly can't begin to figure out what the requirements are for safe contact with life that evolved along totally independent paths.

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    7. Re:With all due respect to Fermi.... by youn · · Score: 3, Funny

      I believe the answer is 42 :)

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  4. Re:With absolutely no respect towards anyone... by VortexCortex · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about this option:
    Would YOU trust US with a Warp Drive?!

    I think the answer is very very simple: Just beyond the Oort Cloud, sits a Universally Translatable Sign:
    "Quarantine Zone - Human Infestation.
    We apologize for the inconvenience."
    -God