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Why the Raspberry Pi Won't Ship In Kit Form

An anonymous reader writes "A post at the Raspberry Pi blog shows an image containing the device's SoC and memory chip to help explain why the tiny PC won't ship in kit form. Clearly, the chips are so small, and the solder blobs required so tiny, that most people would mess up doing it by hand. Add to that the fact one chip has to sit on top of the other, and if you're a millimeter out, your chips are fried." The post also addresses the use of closed source libraries for graphics acceleration.

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  1. whatever... by spidercoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still want 10 of them...

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  2. Re:Assumptions by SomePgmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only assumption I saw was that most folks would botch assembly due to the teeny smd tolerances. It seems pretty reasonable to me. I don't know a lot of people with reflow ovens or hands that steady. And at $25 & $35 for the assembled models, I don't know why people would really want to.

  3. Enough about this board by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The stories about this board need to stop, at least until they ship the thing. "We bought the parts". "We soldered them on", etc. do not each need a separate story.

    Of course you don't ship kits of SMD parts, especially ball-grid array parts. Such a soldering job is cheap in a production environment, and a huge pain even with the right equipment in a small shop. (It's done in production by printing a solder paste layer on the board with a mask, and the final alignment of the pads is done by surface tension in the molten solder. It's all about temperature control and solder paste depositing. Once the production line is tuned right, it works quite consistently.)

  4. Re:Assumptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, anyone who does it successfully would achieve a rare accomplishment, through hard work, diligence, and skill.

    And for those ten to twenty people out there? The phrase I'm looking for is "not a significant market".

  5. DIY kit by mmontour · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you really want a kit you can buy an assembled board, de-solder all of the components, and *make* a kit.

  6. Re:Assumptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The kind of person who can solder BGA are also usually the kind of people who can acquire parts and produce PCBs.

  7. Re:Assumptions by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you've got the tools to do it, just buy the pre-assembled system and remove the solder. (Heat-gun soldering stations usually come with a removal gun as well.)

    Voila, you've got your kit.

    Now put it back together. Now you've done not just one, but TWO difficult, unnecessary things.

    I worked with one woman who was a brilliant solderer. Production put a part upside down and she was able to solder it on so it worked. (For firmware development, bought me two weeks of dev time.) It was a QF44 PIC, I was astonished when I saw it.

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  8. Re:Worthless as a media streaming device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So you're saying if you care about video quality you should spend more than $25?

  9. Re:BGA packages are intimidating by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I want one assembled AND TESTED.

    I'll pay for that.

    debugging a software bug (my own code, say) is hard enough without second guessing the hardware.

    csb: a friend of mine is trying to convince me to use an arduino mega (high density smd-only chip) where I'm currently using the skinnydip28 version of the regular 328-style arduino (which is .1" thruhole and easy to deal with). at the very least, if I was moving to a mega (25xx class), I'd insist on it being on a carrier board AND that board being built to high spec and the cpu tested on the board before being delivered to me for assembly into a larger system. I refuse to have to worry about the cpu AND the rest of the system (being a small company). I cannot find good mega-class chips already on carriers (.1-friendly carriers) AND tested AND by a company I'd trust to actually care about quality. being able to buy it pre-tested is key, to me.

    back to r-pi: I'd want this to be known and tested as a FRU of its own. the thing is small enough to be its own field-replaceable-unit in a larger embedded system; and if any part on it is bad, the whole thing gets replaced.

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  10. Re:Assumptions by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know why people would really want to.

    You clearly aren't the target market for a kit form, then.

    Seriously, though: the world is full of people who want to do difficult, unnecessary things. It is a human-being feature. All Raspberry Pi has to do is say "Kits are not covered by warranty, period."

    In my class I probably was the best at designing PCBs and at soldering and I must disagree with you. Times have changed -and I'm also getting older- and I find it hard to sensibly compete -even as a hobbyist- with mechanical, industrial level soldering, which is what the Raspberry hopefully meets. Also, trying and failing is probably less of a nuisance than trying, nearly succeeding and winding up with weird situations because of soldering issues. Spoke as a tinkerer.

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  11. Re:Assumptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? You don't think the bad publicity they might get if lots of people report "I bought a kit and it failed" is a sufficient reason for them to refuse?