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Finding Lost Recording From the 1880s

An anonymous reader writes "The NY Times recently ran a story on the discovery of a cache of wax cylinder records, recorded in Europe in the 1880s, of Otto von Bismarck, Helmuth von Moltke, and various musicians. 'In June 1889, Edison sent Wangemann to Europe, initially to ensure that the phonograph at the Paris World’s Fair remained in working order. After Paris, Wangemann toured his native Germany, recording musical artists and often visiting the homes of prominent members of society who were fascinated with the talking machine. Until now, the only available recording from Wangemann’s European trip has been a well-known and well-worn cylinder of Brahms playing an excerpt from his first Hungarian Dance. That recording is so damaged "that many listeners can scarcely discern the sound of a piano, which has in turn tarnished the reputations of both Wangemann and the Edison phonograph of the late 1880s," Dr. Feaster said. "These newly unearthed examples vindicate both."'"

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  1. Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quick! Adopt the BCTEA! 2012-1880+50 = 182 years of protection! What if everyone is going to copy this wax cylinder?!!

    1. Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nobody knows Bismark anymore.

      And it can't sound totally ridiculous, like "The Mickey Mouse Copyright Extension Act" [which is what the last one was, but was named the Sonny Bono act to be slightly less ridiculous].

      This time, it'll be something like "The Lady Gaga Copyright Enhancement Act" [using the work enhancement so any attempt to send an email concerning it will automatically be flagged as spam].

      And copyright will be extended to 50 years after every copy of the IP ceases to exist in any form, including thoughts and memories.

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    2. Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nobody knows Bismark anymore.

      But at least in Germany, about everyone has heard of Bismarck.

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    3. Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would dare say that anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

    4. Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act by Swampash · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would dare say that anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

      So no Americans then?

    5. Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act by ShakaUVM · · Score: 5, Funny

      >>So no Americans then?

      Uh, Bismarck is the capital of North Dakota.

      He also runs a killer Chicken and Biscuit restaurant in between forays into the Atlantic to do some quality commerce raiding.

      Checkmate, Europeans.

    6. Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act by formfeed · · Score: 5, Funny

      anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

      The tasty cream filling. Duh.

      Don't forget the Berliners.

      The Berliner are the same as the Polish Paczki, and in the US some call them Bismarck. Which in Germany is a pickled fish.
      Confusing, I know. The only thing I get out of this is that Bismarck must have been some kind of chef - like Julius Cesar, who invented the salad dressing.

  2. MP3 of recordings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.nps.gov/edis/photosmultimedia/audio-wangemann-1889-1890-european-recordings.htm

    1. Re:MP3 of recordings by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They are offering the mp3's for free... Did someone tell Birsmarck about all the money he's losing?

      The fact that he is getting no money will totally discourage him and all his contemporaries from making any new recordings.

  3. For thoses interested... by Vlaix · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... the first actual recordings ever made of sounds and voice can be found there : http://www.firstsounds.org/.

  4. Re:Handle them carefully by fleebait · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Those old recordings, really are more delicate than eggshells. When I was 5 or 6, in 1949, or 1950, I was at my friend's house. His father was a professor at University of Minnesota -- and had a box of old cylinders on a table in the basement. My friend showed them to me, and I proceeded to break, two, or three. I remember one being so delicate, just picking it up out of the box, by putting my finger through, was enough to break it. They were dull reddish brown, and I always thought they were made out of clay or plastic. Still feel guilty about it..

  5. First recording of 'fuck' by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Click here to hear, from March 11, 1885, the first time the word 'fuck' was ever recorded. (Disc 3) Some fellow is making a test recording of 'mary had a little lamb' and screws it up in the middle, uttering 'oh fuck' before stopping and restarting the recording. There is no evidence he meant to say fuck, it was meant for internal use within the company. It survives to us today.

    I wonder who the first person to say 'shit' was?

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  6. Re:Copyright from the past by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wonder what Brahms would make of the insanity that passes for copyright today.

    Dunno about Brahms, but we all know what happened when Bismark found out about Franz Ferdinand's bootleg copies of his hit song "eis eis baby".

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  7. Lost Mark Twain recordings by Creosote · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It has long been known that Mark Twain dictated part of his novel The American Claimant onto Edison cylinders. It was an experiment that he never repeated. Strangely, for someone whose manner of speaking was celebrated and often described during his lifetime, no one else ever thought to record him for posterity.

    The American Claimant cylinders have long since gone missing. Keep your eye out for them in antique shops or your relatives' attics—if found, they would be worth who knows how many thousands or millions of dollars on the open market.