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FBI File Notes Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field

Hugh Pickens writes "Bloomberg reports that the FBI has released a decades-old file it kept on Steve Jobs, the deceased Apple co-founder, after a background check for a possible appointment by former President George H. W. Bush conducting interviews with unnamed associates of Jobs to judge his character, drug use and potential prejudices. 'Several individuals questioned Mr. Jobs' honesty stating that Mr. Jobs will twist the truth and distort reality in order to achieve his goals,' according to the materials. Several people commented 'concerning past drug use on the part of Mr. Jobs,' according to the file including marijuana, hashish and LSD during the period 1970 – 1974. The file also noted that Jobs was not a member of the communist party."

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  1. Hardly a unique trait by X0563511 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most people (we are not all paragons of virtue) do that. The difference was that Jobs was apparently good at it.

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    1. Re:Hardly a unique trait by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Most people (we are not all paragons of virtue) do that. The difference was that Jobs was apparently good at it.

      The difference between SJ and most people, not referenced in his report but available from anyone who ever worked closely with him, was that SJ was addicted to backstabbing even when it would hurt him as well. Do a favor for SJ? Either disappear immediately or count on him going out of his way to hurt you.

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    2. Re:Hardly a unique trait by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most people (we are not all paragons of virtue) do that. The difference was that Jobs was apparently good at it.

      With his wealth, at the end, as a yardstick, he wasn't merely good at it, he wrote the book, the preface, table of contents and the index, plus did a bang-up job for the cover art.

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    3. Re:Hardly a unique trait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, someone else did all that - he just took the credit.

    4. Re:Hardly a unique trait by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do you think they fired him from Apple? They brought him back when they bought up NeXT when it went under. SJ was a sometime marketting genius. Problem was, like most geniuses, his talent was erratic as hell. They never could count on him to figure out the next new thing correctly. (Can anyone say 'Lisa'? 'Cube'?)

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  2. Old Pot/Kettle drama by losttoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wondering if the FBI does background checks on Senate, Congress and Presidential candidates? Pretty sure 99.9% would have the same issues with "dishonesty". My favourite line from the TFA is "Others mentioned that Jobs couldn’t be trusted and that he was able to create a reality-distortion field." Wondering how strong this force field was and was it able to warp the time-space continuum?? :P

    1. Re:Old Pot/Kettle drama by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wondering if the FBI does background checks on Senate, Congress and Presidential candidates?

      Of course not, that would be a waste of taxpayer dollars.

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    2. Re:Old Pot/Kettle drama by masternerdguy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, there are these really cool things called 'elections' in which you get the chance to periodically vote for a candidate you like. The majority rules and the candidate that pleases the most people is elected. Did you know that you can even run for election?

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    3. Re:Old Pot/Kettle drama by Guidii · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Interesting snippet:

      [Retracted] concluded the interview by stating that even though he does not consider Mr. Jobs to be a friend, he (Mr. Jobs) possesses the qualities to assume a high level political position. It was [retracted]'s opinion that honesty and integerity are not required qualities to hold such a position."

    4. Re:Old Pot/Kettle drama by masternerdguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is the 21st century. Traditional TV is going away and its becoming easier to get followers without taking out millions of dollars in commercials. We are approaching a critical point where the little guy can get as much exposure as the big guy if they use the medium intelligently.

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    5. Re:Old Pot/Kettle drama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My favorite paragraph was this one:

      _______concluded the interview by stating that even though he does not consider Mr. Jobs to be a friend, he (Mr. Jobs) possesses the qualities to assume a high level political position. It was ______ opinion that honesty and integrity are not required qualities to hold such a position. _____ recommended him for a position of trust and confidence with the Government.

      He said this after the beginning of his/her interview where he characterized Jobs as a "deceptive individual and not completely forthright and honest," and then mentions the usual reality distortion field stuff.

      Good enough for CEO work, good enough for Government work, lol.

    6. Re:Old Pot/Kettle drama by backwardsposter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is (usually) the kind of person who wants to run for this office isn't the kind of person you want to hold it.

  3. Drugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tons and tons of people have used a bit of hash and LSD in their past, but few will admit it to their employers if they work in the professional world.

    It's not that these activities actually make a person of bad or suspicious - it's that many people _believe_ that they do. This turns casual and innocent drug users into liars because they have to protect themselves from the horribly ill-informed and paranoid power structure.

    1. Re:Drugs by Tsingi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... turns casual and innocent drug users into liars because they have to protect themselves from the horribly ill-informed and paranoid power structure.

      This is what bad laws do, turn everyone into a criminal. Once you're a criminal, deservedly or not, you lose at least some level of respect for the law. It's somewhat self defeating.

      But then, what do I know, I don't like Star Wars much.

  4. wrong by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    with the amount of business Steve sent to China, he should be an honorary member of the Chinese Communist Party

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  5. Re:Breaking news by bws111 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is absurd about the FBI having a file on someone who was a potential presidential appointee?

  6. "twist the truth and distort reality" by pecosdave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to achieve his goals.

    The man outright stated he was willing to bankrupt the company he was in charge of making a profit for in order to avenge a perceived theft.

    I would say the guy has reality, vengeance, and anger issues that rivals that of women I've let into my life.

    Seriously, the guy had a very elegant approach to things, that's why Apple is very popular among those who don't mind having choices made for them, because despite the premium they're good solid choices as long as you don't have anything outside the box to accomplish. There's no doubt in my mind the guy had control issues, the fit he threw when the iPhone boot-loader was cracked, the fact he won't let you deal with multi-media data on external USB/FireWire drives on Mac OS X, the FUD he had the company spread about OGG/Vorbis, and the face Apple officially doesn't even acknowledge Linux exist even though it counts MS/Windows as a bonus feature combined with temper and obsessiveness stories that leaked about his first term as CEO tells me Jobs was likely a sociopath.

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  7. Re:Breaking news by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Get a life bonch. A Slashdotter who lives in one of the most boring places in the world is telling you to Get. A. Life.

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  8. Re:So, in other news, absolutely nothing unexpecte by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is "news" in the same way that saying Mr. Jobs was a carbon based life form would been news.

    To be fair, that revelation would have surprised a lot of the Apple Faithful.

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  9. TOP SECRET clearance at PIXAR? by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's a note that Jobs once held a TOP SECRET clearance while at Pixar. I wonder what Pixar was doing for the Government.

    1. Re:TOP SECRET clearance at PIXAR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's a note that Jobs once held a TOP SECRET clearance while at Pixar. I wonder what Pixar was doing for the Government.

      Bush was afraid Toy Story was real. He was worried his dolls were all spying on him at night.

  10. Best quote from entire document by johnthorensen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    [redacted] concluded the interview by stating that even though he does not consider Mr. Jobs to be a friend, he (Mr. Jobs) possesses the qualities to assume a high level political position. It was [redacted]'s opinion that honest and integrity are not required qualities to hold such a position. [redacted] recommended him for a position of trust and confidence with the government.

    That quote alone is awesome on so many levels I can't even begin to describe the joy and mirth I experienced while reading it.

  11. Re:Breaking news by Gilmoure · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're better than human, they're a corporation; All the rights and privileges, a lot less of the requirements.

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  12. Hacks by Phoenix666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it me, or is it the more we learn about the inner workings of our government via WikiLeaks, social media, and other channels that it becomes clear the last thing on earth any reasonably intelligent person should ever do is give their trust or dollars to the government or big corporations?

    As a young man I had an impression of at least certain departments of the government as being competent, such as the FBI, CIA, and State Department. The first of those to fall was the CIA, with whom I had personal contact in the late 90's; calling them room temperature IQ's would be an effusive compliment. Then the FBI botched investigation after investigation throughout their lab screw-ups. And their modus operandus seemed to increasingly be to frame their suspects and violate the basic constitutional rights of innocent Americans. The State Department's sign-off on yellow-cake uranium was the first big blow to my confidence in that bunch; the next big strike against them was breezing through their application process only to wonder why it was no people of color made it; and the nail in the coffin was Cablegate.

    Now, maybe DARPA has mettle left. The SEALs seem to prove themselves again and again. Apple and Google appear to be effective. But why do we cede so much to all the rest, given how shot through with corruption, collusion, and incompetence they are, and at such horrific cost?

    We are, many of us, so much brighter and better and deserving of more to have our collective potential so utterly frustrated by such dross. It's not an information problem so much anymore. We have any one of dozens of channels to chose from to communicate. Is it a question of will or organization? As refugees from the system of ritual abuse constituted by the status quo, are we constitutionally unable to work with others cohesively or deeply afraid of bullies who will walk up and punch us?

    I struggle with this because I see the deep intelligence of so many of my colleagues and of the general community on /., and I wonder what challenges we could not surmount if we could break free of our learned social inhibitions. We have all grown up in a world ruled by salesmen, thugs, and psychopaths, but that's not the world I'd like to leave to my kids. I'd like them to live in a world led by artists, engineers, scientists, and humanitarians.

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    1. Re:Hacks by jockeys · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We have all grown up in a world ruled by salesmen, thugs, and psychopaths, but that's not the world I'd like to leave to my kids. I'd like them to live in a world led by artists, engineers, scientists, and humanitarians.

      Artists, engineers, scientists and humanitarians do not have an unquenchable, innate thirst for power.

      Salesmen, thugs and psychopaths do. So they work hard to gather, consolidate and maintain power while decent people don't. It's that simple.

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  13. Re:what's with the all-caps emails? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Funny

    To be fair to the NWS, if they're issuing alerts, they should probably be shouted.

    What's more appropriate?

    "200 inches of rain expected. You are urged to evacuate." ...or...
    "200 INCHES OF RAIN EXPECTED YOU ARE URGED TO EVACUATE"

    ?

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  14. Re:And to the public... by NonUniqueNickname · · Score: 4, Funny

    I went to actually RTFA

    You've learned your lesson, I hope.

  15. Anti communist seems anti democratic by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm baffled by America's continuing war on stamping out communists.

    Sure, this is a democracy, we want to stay a democracy. We had enemies who were communists; however, the witch hunt against communism, which is still going on to a lesser degree is baffling.

    When I applied for my green card, and later my citizenship (as recent as 2 years ago)- I had to fill in a form saying I hadn't overthrown any governments, wasn't a communist, etc, etc, etc. ... and no, I'm not a communist- although I joined a joke "communist party" in university that parodied the Republican and democrat clubs (I'm actually very centrist)- surprise they didn't find that and block my citizenship... :)

    To me it seems to be "undemocratic" to try and stamp out an individual party or belief like that. Sure- if they try to over-throw the country- or do terrorist acts- or represent a foreign nation- but to try to keep people out because of their belief. Obviously the made a point- even as late as the 80's to make sure Jobs wasn't a commie... this was after the worst of the cold war- and after McCarthyism was en vogue.

    Even MLK was demonized by the FBI- they spread false rumours about him trying to discredit him because he had communist friends and they FBI was worried he too might be a communist trying to spread communism.

    I dunno- but even as someone who is opposed to communism - I find the attack on communism by the government to be kinda creepy- it feels as if some rights are being violated somehow. If I did want to be a commie- should I not be allowed to? Should I not be allowed to have a political opinion that is not main stream? What if a Republican government later decides to attack and out law the green party, or the democrats?

    Am I the only one who finds this wrong? I know we're supposed to hate the commies- but we're also supposed to let people believe whatever they want and only arrest them if the commit a crime or conspire to do so.

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  16. Re:Breaking news by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hell, I have an FBI file. Prints on file with them, too. Everybody in the military, past, present, and future, gets one as part of their security clearance procedure. Some of us get them added to over the decades as a result of, well, things. Things like, participating in a protest movement, joining an organisation with ties to radical politics. I do have to say, tho, that most of the 'subversive' things I did back in the day are real snoozers today. Kinda hard to remember why we fucking cared that much.

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  17. Re:Breaking news by Moryath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Corporations are what you'd get with a human who:

    - Never sleeps
    - Never needs air
    - Has no conscience
    - Has enough funding to run a team of lawyers 24/7
    - Cannot be imprisoned or arrested, even for a single hour

    I'll believe a corporation is a person when one can be given the death penalty for murder. Oh, wait, they just fine the corporation lots of money and the people responsible for the murderous decisions get off scot free with a golden stock parachute...

  18. Re:Breaking news by amoeba1911 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I second that motion. Corporations break the law and commit things that would be considered felonies, yet they just get a small fine and a slap of the wrist. The fine is always ridiculously small, it is like having a $90 fine for stealing $100 worth of goods from a store. The chances of getting caught by someone you can't bribe are small, and when you do get caught, the fine isn't that bad.

    In some states, convicted felons lose the right to vote. Yet, corporations convicted of felonies are allowed to sway elections with unlimited campaign contributions.