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Hacked Emails Reveal Russian Astroturfing Program

gotfork writes "Quoting The Guardian: 'A pro-Kremlin group runs a network of internet trolls, seeks to buy flattering coverage of Vladimir Putin and hatches plans to discredit opposition activists and media, according to private emails allegedly hacked by a group calling itself the Russian arm of Anonymous.' While a similar program has operated in China for a long time, and some commentators have suggested that a similar program exists in Russia, this is the first confirmation."

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  1. Nooo. Really? by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny

    All those action hero images of Putin weren't real?

    My faith in mankind is ruined.

    In Soviet Russia internet trolls YOU!

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    1. Re:Nooo. Really? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Informative

      The point is that anti-opposition campaign in Russia has made a lot of claims that opposition demonstrations and online activity is all paid (the usual claim is that US Department of State is footing the bill), whereas the expression of admiration for the glorious leader is completely genuine.

  2. In Soviet Russia... by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... bonchski is astroturfed by YOU!

    1. Re:In Soviet Russia... by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd just like to point out that since this activity is taking place in Russia, technically the correct term is not "astroturfing", it should be "cosmoturfing"

  3. The horror! by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am disgusted to discover that a politician would hire people to say nice things about them and bad things about their opponents. This must stop at once.

    1. Re:The horror! by bonch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's changed is that the pervasiveness of social media and the anonymity of the internet makes it so that waging an astroturfing PR campaign can be both harder to detect and much more effective. Basically, you should take everything and everyone online with a grain of salt (including me!).

    2. Re:The horror! by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      I am disgusted to discover that a politician would hire people to say nice things about them and bad things about their opponents. This must stop at once.

      Things in Russia are more like they are now than they have ever been before.

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    3. Re:The horror! by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Basically, you should take everything and everyone online with a grain of salt (including me!).

      I bet the Salt Manufacturer's Association paid you to say that...

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  4. Never in the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This could never happen in the USA.

    1. Re:Never in the USA by smash · · Score: 2

      The brainwashing over there in the states is sufficiently complete enough that you have enough xenophobic ass-clowns available to do it themselves WITHOUT pay.

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  5. Now, in the US! by zooblethorpe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am disgusted to discover that a politician would hire people to say nice things about them and bad things about their opponents. This must stop at once.

    Indeed. In fact, I've got a lovely bridge to sell to anyone who thinks that something similar isn't already happening in the US, or really, in just about any Internet-savvy nation.

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    1. Re:Now, in the US! by Required+Snark · · Score: 4, Insightful
      After the fall of the Soviet Bloc, both US and Russia and it's satellite states have followed a very similar course. The governments are merging with the money/power elites. In Russia they are relatively honest, and talk about the "oligarchs". In the US this is going on under the radar.

      There are differences. In Russia the oligarchs are untouchable as long as they don't challenge Putin politically or economically. All policy foreign and domestic is under sole control of the state.

      In the US it is the opposite. Large areas of government policy are being controlled by the corporate elites. That is was ACTA/SOPA/etc are all about, as is TARP and the ongoing bank/Wall Street bailout. The government is shielding corrupt and inefficient corporate entities from the consequences of their incompetent behavior.

      When Jamie Diamon, head of JPMorgan, said that "we have a right to make a profit", he was speaking literally. He thinks that the big banks are not subject to capitalism and should have guaranteed success. This is much closer to a feudal society, where the landed aristocracy always has the best, even when the peasants are starving. It is not capitalism, where failure is always an option. FDR called this "economic royalism", which is a good description of our current economic system.

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    2. Re:Now, in the US! by Pecisk · · Score: 2

      You really *don't* have a fucking clue what's going on in Russia, do you? Completely empty buzzword comparison. While of course it's oligarchy, however it is totally different in execution.

      Believe me, what's going on with Capitalism in US and the world is bad enough on their own. There's no need to attach it to to every criticism on Russia :)

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  6. I wish to express outrage over this bad reporting by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

    This poor news coverage by _SLASHDOT_ is clearly aimed at making the Russian People's leader look bad to this _AMERICAN_ audience. As a Russian _MAN_ aged _32_, I can conclusively state that Mr. Putin has been a blessing to my country. I look forward to his continuing to lead us throught _2012_ and in the future.

    Signed,
    _MyLongNickName_

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  7. Re:Commies by Johann+Lau · · Score: 2

    Yeah... good thing Slashdot is completey squeaky clean of it :D

  8. Re:Tu Quoque? by superwiz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, worse than Israel, that's for sure. Israel has legitimate security concerns, most of which, by the way, stem from Russian geo-political policies rather than from any of their own doing. It was Russia that goaded Egypt into wars with Israel. It was Russia that built both of Iran's nuclear reactors. It was Russia that supplied Syria with tanks that almost over-ran Israel. I don't recall Israel supplying half of Russia's neighbors with weapons to attack Israel, so I am pretty sure Israel has a higher moral ground in this one.

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  9. Re:Russians are faget by superwiz · · Score: 2

    PR stunt #37: assume the position opposite of the one you promote and make sure you sound extremely stupid when you defend it.

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  10. Job Posting: Corporate Communications by garthsundem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A country recently named a 2012 Top Cock-Blocker of Middle Eastern Democracy, is seeking a Public Relations Specialist to communicate to its internal, external, and exiled audiences. The position will be responsible for connecting with our 141,750,000+ domestic "employees", introducing new employees and interns to our country's unique culture, expanding its social networking reach, maintaining the corporate website, event planning, cultivating community relationships, responding to media inquiries, writing and disseminating press releases, coaching our subsidiaries on their individual PR needs, crushing dissent, and mentoring an intern. The ideal candidate is self-directed and self-motivated, resourceful, tactful, and enjoys kicking puppies. You must be a persuasive writer and speaker. Your success will be measured by your creativity and your ability to ruin the lives of dissenters and their extended families with little to no supervision. A college degree plus five years or more experience in a corporate PR or Spanish Inquisitional environment is required. Please submit a brief writing sample with your resume and your soul to PR@Putin.com. Salary commensurate with experience.

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  11. Re:Lie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course he should have been elected, at least once he made it past the primary. We're pretty much stuck electing Democrats until the Republicans marginalize the ignorant religious conservatives who have taken over their party. Being racist, superstitious, and still believing in trickle-down economics at this late date completely disqualifies them for office.

  12. 10 year old news by alexmin · · Score: 2

    To those who read Russian interwebs since '90 the rise of government astroturfing should have been obvious starting about '00. There was a marked change in tone and verbage of forum comments on different online forums. Such posters are called "brigades" and thought to be FSB operatives.

  13. Better summary by fibonacci8 · · Score: 2

    Russia and China also have super pacs.

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  14. Re:I wish to express outrage over this bad reporti by iroll · · Score: 2

    No, he's implying that he input values into blanks on a boilerplate response.

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  15. Re:Commies by Spliffster · · Score: 2

    sry, i forgot the sarcasm tag.

  16. Re:Tu Quoque? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't recall Israel supplying half of Russia's neighbors with weapons to attack Israel

    Did you mean to write "weapons to attack Russia"?

    If so, then you might find it interesting that Israel has supplied Georgian army with UAVs, NVDs, AA systems, and many other things - all the stuff used during the war in South Ossetia, which, may I remind, was started by a Georgian attack on the area of responsibility of Russian UN peacekeeping force, and specifically on said peacekeeping force (10 people KIA from hostile fire - artillery and tanks shelled peacekeepers' barracks).

  17. well, considering.. by smash · · Score: 2

    ... the last 50-60 years of western anti-soviet propaganda, its only fair.

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  18. Re:Tu Quoque? by superwiz · · Score: 2

    Umm. You are posting as an AC. I have over 900 posts over more than 10 years on this site. You can't possibly be arguing that I am astroturfing. Well, you can possibly be arguing that. Just not credibly.

    Someone compared Israel to Russia's propaganda. I pointed out that comparison was laughable. But let me see. So first you tried a deflection. When that didn't work, you went for the ad hominem. When I reminded you that you were off the topic, you decided to go with projection. Do you have a list that you follow? Or do these float around in your ahead and you reach for whichever one make your more giddy?

    No matter. My point stands. Russia is using the old Soviet tactics. Blaming Israel is one of many old Soviet tactics (because Israel gets people emotional and unable to evaluate the situation rationally). The main way of staying in power during a crisis of confidence is to manufacture a new crises. Just as blaming the Jews was an old Russian tactic, blaming Israel works beautifully. It's just statistically convenient -- smaller population means pissing off the least people while the crises unfolds.

    Oh, and just so we are clear, the difference between astroturf and grass roots is that it's not astroturfing if no one pays you for it. If my own opinion happens to agree with that of what you'd call "Israeli propaganda", it's still not astroturfing. It just means that I buy their story. Ie, it's still grass roots. Whereas, the opinions that Russia bought to have trolled around are astroturf.

    I am awaiting with anticipation to see what's on the list after the projection.

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  19. Re:Outrage in 3, 2, 1.... by smash · · Score: 2

    I don't even care about them anymore. I'm just sad that such big country and yet they are living in paranoia, investing almost nothing in infrastructure, but in same time waste their money to play hardliners and allow people to die (yeah, about Syria), and meddling with politics in their neighborhood countries. You can't get your respect in such way

    Sounds pretty much exactly the same as the USA to me. Replace Syria with, oh I dunno... Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Same shit, different media spin. If you think you lot living over there in the US are currently living in a *legitimate* democracy, you're fucking kidding yourselves. Obama (new bush) = same as the old bush, pretty much. Just has charisma.

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  20. Re:now if only by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lol. "Sabotage" comes from French, not Russian.

    A "sabot" is a shoe (in French), and the association comes from when Dutch workers would place their shows in machinery that was threatening to replace them (eg. these were the French-speaking equivalent of the English Luddites). Hence, "Sabot-age". The Russians have many cool words, but sabotage does not originate with them, Comrade Slashdotter.

  21. The difference between the US and this is by melted · · Score: 3, Informative

    The difference between the US and this is that in Russia this is paid for with enormous amounts of taxpayer money (hired drummers alone at a pro-Puting meeting cost something like $800K), and people are threatened with pink slips at work unless they go to pro-government meetings. When you live hand to mouth and don't have any savings, the prospect of getting fired over some BS meeting is pretty scary. And when the election time rolls around, they stuff the ballot boxes, and then if that proves insufficient, simply rewrite final counts when no one is looking. That country is truly ruled by a bunch of crooks and thieves. Can't wait to see the Russian people to hang them on the "teeth" of the Kremlin wall. They did this a hundred years ago, they can do it again. Russia just can't catch a fucking break.

  22. Re:Hardly surprising by temcat · · Score: 2

    From my perspective, there is no problem at all on the part of bloggers and activists receiving money, since the validity of a point of view does not suddenly change just because its expression is paid for.

    However, as a Russian, I do object to paying Russian taxpayers' money for that. I'm not concerned about American money since I don't pay taxes in the USA.