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Engelbart's Keyboard Available For Touchscreens

An anonymous reader writes "Doug Engelbart should be known to everyone on Slashdot — he did invent the mouse after all, among many other inventions all of us rely on today. There was one more obscure device he came up with that never really took off, though. It was called the Chorded Keyboard, and consisted of a system that allowed you to type using just one hand. The key to this system was finger combinations, which allowed up to 32 different characters — more than enough for the alphabet. Now that one-handed keyboard has been ported to work with touchscreens, and it could end up being quite popular. The key benefit is the fact you can type anywhere on the screen and don't even need to see where you are typing. The only difficulty is learning all the key combos, but once you have them cold you may be able to type faster than with two hands on your smartphone or tablet." Bonus: being software-only and open-source, it's much cheaper than a Twiddler.

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  1. I wonder where this will go by bonch · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...a system that allowed you to type using just one hand.

    Wait, fellow poster! Please reconsider before you write that joke!

  2. EMACS? by inode_buddha · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just wait till the Emacs people come along... they're gonna have a gasm. Wait for all the keybindings in 3.... 2... 1....

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    1. Re:EMACS? by iluvcapra · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a bit like an Emacs user's reductio ad absurdum : a keyboard that is all modifiers.

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    2. Re:EMACS? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, at the time chorded keyboards were popular, the first Emacs users were already around, and took a much different approach. Gentlemen, behold: the Space Cadet Keyboard. Seven modifier keys. Seven.

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    3. Re:EMACS? by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Someone needs to make a keyboard with ELEVEN modifier keys. For that extra push over the cliff.

    4. Re:EMACS? by Khashishi · · Score: 2

      The approach is not as different as you think. Modifier keys are essentially used like chords. By pressing a different combination of modifier keys, you get different characters.

    5. Re:EMACS? by red_dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seven modifier keys. Seven.

      I've always wondered what kind of moderation would result if one pressed Hyper-Super-Meta-ThumbsUp while clicking the Moderate button here on Slashdot.

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    6. Re:EMACS? by hawk · · Score: 4, Funny

      I may be slow, but how would that be different thant Emacs today??? :)

      hawk

    7. Re:EMACS? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Funny

      suddenly a lot of questions I have about emacs just fell into place.

      Oh My God! You're right!

      Seven modifiers. Seven Fingers. Lisp. It all fits.

      Emacs is designed for aliens!

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    8. Re:EMACS? by Animats · · Score: 2

      The MIT Space Cadet keyboard was a response to the Stanford SAIL keyboard., which had CONTROL, TOP, SHIFT, and META shifts. The SAIL character set had a reasonable set of math symbols, reached via the TOP key, and there were programming environments that used them. Here's a paper by John McCarthy on the SAIL character set.

      I've used both of those systems. The math symbols on the SAIL keyboard were nice, since they had display glyphs to go with them. All those function and shift keys on the Symbolics 3600 keyboard were not all that useful. Most of them didn't do much.

      I'm typing on a Windows Natural Keyboard, which was the upper limit of excessive buttons for Windows. There are 19 extra function keys. The "calculator" button really brings up the calculator. The "Menu" button brings up a menu. The "Mail" button brings up Thunderbird. None of this is particularly useful.

  3. Number of Hands? by Dripdry · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have two hands you insensitive clod!

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  4. IIRC by Colourspace · · Score: 2

    There was an early 'palm' computer around '90/1/2 (in the UK) that was very similar to this. It had a keyboard of five keys mapped to the positions of the fingers on one hand, but could, in the right 'hand' be used quite efficiently as a one hand 'keyboard' input device. Fucked if I can remember what it was called, but I do remember someone being quite proficient with it. Any ideas what it was? It would have been around the time of the Atari Portfolio/Early Psion machines.

    1. Re:IIRC by iamsquicky · · Score: 3, Informative

      It was the quinkey or microwriter. Can remember playing with it but not for long enough to be interested.
      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwriter

    2. Re:IIRC by belphegore · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think the poster below is correct, it's a Microwriter AgendA. The picture at Wikipedia is of some other Microwriter device. This page has a picture of the AgendA:

      http://www.gifford.co.uk/~coredump/org.htm

      My friend had one around the same time I had my Psion Organizer II, ~1989 or so in highschool in the UK.

    3. Re:IIRC by belphegore · · Score: 4, Informative

      The picture at Wikipedia is of the Microwriter, not the Microwriter AgenaA. Try this page:

      http://www.gifford.co.uk/~coredump/org.htm

      There's a picture on there under that name which is the device I remember -- the AgendA that is, not the Microwriter below it.

    4. Re:IIRC by Misagon · · Score: 2

      The latest iteration was the CyKey, but it is just a chorded keyboard, it does not record. The site does not seem to have been updated in a while.

      I could have sworn that there was a software version available for iPhone or MacOS' TrackPad ... but I am probably just confused and thinking of the TrackPad version of FrogPad.

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  5. Re:Shoot me by snowgirl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unless my life depended on it, I doubt I could ever train myself to use 32+ memorized "chords" to type all of the letters and numbers.

    Unless my life depended upon it, I doubt I could ever train myself to use a 101+ key keyboard...

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  6. This doesn't seem as useful as stenotype by tlambert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stenotype, which is used for both court reporting and closed captioning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenotype can typically be operated at 300WPM.

    It has the advantage that you can already take classes in it, and that there are tons of people already trained to use it.

    I guess Paul Wittgenstein http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wittgenstein might appreciate it.

    -- Terry

  7. One hand? Pfft! How about one finger? by martyb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I can see the learning curve is steep, I must be missing something, though, because lowercase letters (26), uppercase letters (26), digits (10), punctuation (26), and "meta" keys like Escape, Tab, Backspace, Delete, and enter (to name a few) exceeds the 32 chorded characters mentioned in TFA.

    I've often wondered if Morse Code could be a viable option for data entry on a small screen. Admittedly, there are some punctuation and capitalization issues with this, as well. Yet, it WOULD permit one to text while not requiring one to keep their gaze on the screen.

    I suppose one could split the screen in half (e.g. left/right) to distinguish lowercase from uppercase and to allow additional symbols to be defined. I doubt I'm the first to think of this, but I've not seen anything like this being available, I thought I'd toss it out for consideration and discussion.

  8. Re:Shoot me by Hentes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Luckily for you you don't have to memorize it, as the function of every key is written on them.

  9. Re:Shoot me by Imagix · · Score: 2

    Look up a product called the FrogPad. One-handed keyboard (comes in left and right-handed versions). Does punctuation and backspace (and arrows, and other special keys).

  10. Re:Shoot me by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't think it'd be that hard to learn a chorded keyboard, but I've never tried so I'm not sure. However, there is a big difference between those and regular keyboards: with a regular keyboard, if you touch type, you're relying on positional memory. Every key is in a particular place, and never moves. Chorded keyboards don't have this; you get different characters through different motions of the keys, and you have to move multiple keys at once for each different character. Maybe it's not so easy.

    That said, I don't see how this keyboard can possibly work if it only has 32 combinations, unless there's some extra modifier keys that you use with the other hand or something. Between lower-case, upper-case, numerals, special characters, and others (F-keys, insert/delete/home/etc.), you need a minimum of 84 keys to replace a standard 101-key keyboard, and a couple more if you want those stupid Windows keys.

  11. problem by Khashishi · · Score: 2

    I find your lack of capital letters disturbing.

  12. That's nothing by N8w8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ha! With my typing system, I needn't use more than just one finger!
    PS: any advice on getting first post? It seems impossible.
    (or what joke were you referring to?)

  13. Twiddler? Really? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

    I read "Twiddler" and it makes me think The Batman has been reduced from stalking Master Criminals to now pursuing Masturbaters...

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  14. Re:Shoot me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember, long ago, when the guy first brought out this keyset. Some University, MIT as I recall but that may be wrong, tested the learning curve with two groups of people. One learning typewriter type touch typing and the other doing the same exercises and investing the same number of hours on this thing. At the end the "chorded keyset" students tested almost twice the speed with approx. the same error rate. Supposedly a few "freaks" were able to type two different documents at the same time using both hands.

    They were sold for a few years. I always wanted to get one but never seemed to have the time.

    In the early 90's I remember reading that the military tested a modification of the idea that used a wrist strap with sensors to detect the movements of the fingers without actually using a keyboard. The idea was that astronauts in zero-G and pilots under high G could use it.

    Seems like that could be a terrific solution for tablets and desktops alike. Make the wrist strap wireless and away you go.

  15. Build it into the back of a tablet by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Since it is very common to hold a tablet with one hand, it would be interesting if someone would build a tablet with pressure senors on the back and side (for your thumb) so that the hand holding the tablet could type just be squeezing. Make the entire back of the tablet pressure sensitive so you don't have to worry about lining your fingers up, just let the software figure out which finger is which based on the relative location of each press/squeeze.

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  16. Re:One hand? Pfft! How about one finger? by dbc · · Score: 2

    Did you see the bit on Leno where they had two kids texting over phones, race to hams with radios using morse code? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfyf5Y5AHNc Morse code won easily and handily by a huge margin. I know one of the hams (Chip), he said it was clear during rehearsal that morse code was going to win by a mile. It's actually pretty easy to send morse code, and as you say easy to do in a clandestine fashion. Copying, though, requires practice, practice, practice. Until it becomes a key skill in modern video games I don't see lots of kids learning the code.

  17. OpenGenera for Linux by klapaucjusz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I deeply desire to have a Symbolics machine of my own some day—or at least a version of OpenGenera that boots properly.

    You won't have one properly licensed, since the courts were unable to agree who owns the copyrights to Genera. On the other hand, that means you cannot be sued by the copyright holders, since nobody is quite sure who the copyright holders are.

    You'll need:

    Setting it up requires a little bit of work (you'll need to set up a local NFS server and to tweak your X server's modifier mappings), but I warmly recommend it -- it's complete enough to do some real work in Emacs, and the full sources and documentation are there for your greater enjoyment.

    1. Re:OpenGenera for Linux by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      And if you want the real hardware, check on eBay for the accelerator boards that plug into old Macs. You can pick up a Mac from the required era for about $10 and the boards (which are a Lisp machine CPU, but nothing else) go for about $100-200 periodically. They basically relegate the 68000 to being an I/O coprocessor and take over the system. The later Lisp machines were Alphas, and these also periodically pop up for sale - they also have the advantage of being a lot smaller than the early ones...

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  18. Open-source stenotype - Plover by jdmonin · · Score: 2

    Someone's apparently working on an open-source input method for stenotype (Plover):

    http://lwn.net/Articles/475408/

  19. Jon Postel used a chord keyboard with NLS by Mr.+Protocol · · Score: 2

    Jon Postel, who ran the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) for many years, used Engelbart's NLS system to manage all of the information for IANA. He used a mouse and chord keyboard. I was interested at one time in user interface issues, and I'm located in L.A., so Jon kindly allowed me to interview him and watch him work (the Internet was a far smaller and more friendly place back then). NLS was designed to use these two devices in concert. The usage model was of a hypertext, with a mouse click on an item followed by a single-letter command. The command letters were typed in on the chord keyboard, at two chords per character. The scheme was to type in 8- or 9-bit characters as bits, five high bits followed by five low bits, or the other way around, I don't remember which. The effect was that to manipulate information, as opposed to entering it, you didn't have to move your hands back and forth to and from the keyboard. Just click-chunk-chunk, click-chunk-chunk.

    At two chords per character, and with pretty clunky-chunky piano-type keys on the chord keyboard, entering more than a few characters via chord keyboard was slower and more painful than using a regular keyboard. I asked Jon how many characters he would type on the chord keyboard before switching to the regular keyboard, and his answer was, "About ten."

    Jon was probably the last user of NLS aside from Doug & Friends. I believe ISI, where Jon worked, kept a PDP-10 running just to support his use of NLS in running IANA.