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Intel Gets Serious With Solar-powered CPU Tech

angry tapir writes "Intel's experimental solar-powered processor may have started off as a fun project, but the chip maker is now looking to extend the technology to hardware such as graphics processors, memory and floating point units. Intel last year showed the low-power processor — charged only by the light from a reading lamp — running Windows and Linux PCs. Intel is expected to share further details about the processor, which is code-named Claremont, at the International Solid-State Circuits Conference in San Francisco. The company is also expected to reveal information about efforts to integrate wireless capabilities into Atom chips for mobile devices."

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  1. Actually Solar is not the quest here folks... by icebike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes Intel did demo a solar cell powering a Pentium, but that was merely to make a point about the inefficiencies of near-threshold voltage (NTV) CPUs. They have no particular focus on Solar powered processors.

    Near-threshold voltage (NTV) CPUs are the focus of Intel's research here.
    NTV transistors can switch at voltages just the threshold for the device's powered state, and CPUs made of these can idle along at extremely low voltage doing real work (slower) or they can ramp up the power and work much faster.

    The Register has a much better explanation of this technology than the linked article.

    The idea is to have devices run at low voltages and power consumption rates that would be akin to a sleep mode in today's chips. And NTV techniques are not just limited to processors used in hand-held devices like smartphones and tablets, but to everything all the way up to exascale supercomputers, says Rattner. The important thing is that NTV techniques allow a chip's performance and power to scale as voltage scales up and down, and to do so across a wide dynamic range.

    Also a good summary here:

    Marketing spin aside, the "near-threshold voltage" chip is quite an achievement. Intel first revealed in March 2010 that it had a prototype chip running at such low voltages, but Claremont's creators took that technology and baked it into a full IA architecture processor. Based on a Pentium core, Claremont can not only be throttled down to "within a couple of hundred millivolts of the threshold voltage of the transistors," said Intel engineer Sriram Vangal, who demoed the chip during Rattner's turn, but – equally important – it also has a high dynamic range that allows it to be cranked up to deliver ten times the low-power performance by increasing the voltage.

    Once again, the Register does a better job of reporting than Techworld.

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    1. Re:Actually Solar is not the quest here folks... by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

      Essentially a throttle, but more likely a demand based system, such that non-busy processors can run at the lowest possible speed and voltage, and when work stacks up, it ramps up.

      Great for the smart phone in your pocket which has nothing to do for hours at a time other than check the email and listen for calls.
      Since its screen is off, you really don't care how fast it does those things as long as they are just barely fast enough.

      There is a great deal of "stare time" that happens when people look at computers, and the processors are spinning away all the time while you are reading this. They could just as well drop to an extremely low power state, and wait for a mouse move, finger tap, or something else.

      This much we've been doing all along, for the last 20 years. But power consumption still remained high, because even simple tasks like checking the clock to see if its time to increment that digital time read out took processing power, and historically any use of the processor kept it awake at something like full power for that task.

      Now, those tasks can be performed at extremely low power, without ramping up the speed. Only when the processor can't meet the demand would the system increase the voltage and speed up the chip.

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    2. Re:Actually Solar is not the quest here folks... by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      So you can run your CPU 4x slower while you're not doing much at 16x less power.

      source: imaginary approximations numbers based on 4x voltage decrease. The article mentions 280mv and 1.2v.

    3. Re:Actually Solar is not the quest here folks... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 2

      Another method which (I assume) addresses the problem is running a more full-featured BIOS that could operate the "basic" applications like web browsers and skype without having to load a full-fledged OS.

      You have essentially instant-on access to the most basic popular applications, and then boot to a real operating system when you have to edit that film or play that game.

      Toshibas(and probably others) had the ability to play audio CDs from within the BIOS way back in 2003 when I was fixing laptops for a living. Smart BIOS's are the next natural step.

    4. Re:Actually Solar is not the quest here folks... by Belial6 · · Score: 2

      ASUS does this with their ExpressGate feature. http://expressgate.asus.com/

    5. Re:Actually Solar is not the quest here folks... by symbolset · · Score: 2

      Until Intel makes something useful of it and ships it at retail, it may as well be that "single atom transistor" tech from a few stories ago, or the holographic storage from yesterday, or cold fusion.

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  2. It's a Race by GLMDesigns · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So many people are worried about how technological advances are ruining the environment. What many often forget is that technology is also the answer (unless you want to go back to a hunter-gather lifestyle and I hear that the drum/smoke-signal bandwidth really sucks, it's takes forever to download the latest movie.)

    We're in a race - computational speed, new materials, new efficiencies versus the rate in which we're polluting the environment. Many things make me optimistic: photovoltaic paints for one - and now processing power so efficient that it can be solar powered. Wow. We may win this race after all. .

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    1. Re:It's a Race by jamesjw · · Score: 4, Funny

      In regards to your second statement regarding noise pollution, I believe AC/DC found an alternative to this issue, they formulated in the 1970's that Rock And Roll was not Noise Pollution and was sustainable indefinitely (Aint gonna die.) :)

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    2. Re:It's a Race by catchblue22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When I consider that the human brain is many orders of magnitude more powerful than any electronic computer, and uses only a few hundred calories a day, it makes me realize that our electronic computers have a huge potential for improvement in both energy efficiency and power.

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    3. Re:It's a Race by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2

      I was going to say my heliograph was completely non-polluting, then I remembered a few operator-powered methane emissions...

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    4. Re:It's a Race by ZankerH · · Score: 5, Interesting

      How many FLOPS does that get you at peak performance?

      Saying the human brain is "more powerful" makes no sense by itself. It's better at certain tasks (like pattern recognition, jumping to conclusions and holding contradictory beliefs) because it's hard-wired to do them. When it has to use general-purpose computing (like when you try to do floating-point math), you'll find most computers a great deal faster and more efficient.

    5. Re:It's a Race by ortholattice · · Score: 2

      When it has to use general-purpose computing (like when you try to do floating-point math), you'll find most computers a great deal faster and more efficient.

      True, there are "sweet spots" such as this where computers have an advantage over humans. However, as the math gets more advanced, computers rapidly start losing steam. Humans can prove advanced theorems such as Fermat's Last Theorem that computers can't even begin to touch, even with state of the art automated theorem provers.

    6. Re:It's a Race by Baloroth · · Score: 2

      About 100 teraflops, according to what I could dig up on Google. By comparison, the highest end single GPUs can do about 2.5 teraflops (and at raw computation they destroy general purpose CPUs), and those generally consume a few hundred watts. Obviously supercomputers are a lot faster, but by input energy, the human brain is much faster than a computer. Our minds just aren't designed to handle numerical calculations, but they certainly could outperform a computer. Granted, someone whose brain was wired to do that would probably be completely non-functional, since we need so much power for our other activities, but it is certainly possible. There just isn't any evolutionary advantage for humans to develop that capability, and there never will be, computers being as widespread as they are.

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    7. Re:It's a Race by TheCouchPotatoFamine · · Score: 4, Interesting

      the basic rule is that neural networks can solve problems without knowing *how* precisely, and digital computers can do anything if you know exactly how. See the difference? You can't compare brains and computers. They are good at diametrically opposed things and always will be. Thats the law (of physics and computation).

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    8. Re:It's a Race by Arrepiadd · · Score: 2

      Granted, someone whose brain was wired to do that would probably be completely non-functional, since we need so much power for our other activities, but it is certainly possible.

      Indeed you are right at this point. I once saw a documentary about savants and this is one of the ideas you got. These people master skills like no one else could imagine. The most famous savant, Kim Peek (the inspiration for the character of Dustin Hoffman in Rainman) had memorized thousands of books. Other played instruments flawlessly even after hearing a new piece just once. Other could draw Manhattan with impressive detail after seeing only one photo. The list goes on.
      The inabilities they had were quite striking as well. The above mentioned Kim Peek was totally unable to function by himself. If left alone brushing his teeth he would continue brushing the same spot.
      To further support your statement they had the case of a couple of twins (based on Wikipedia I'd say Charles and George Finn, but I can't be certain) that could calculate the calendar back thousands of years. You'd ask "Which day of the week was 1st of March 330 AD?" and they'd get it right. They could also remember, for the time they had been alive, what the weather was like on a specific day "Ah, you were born in 22nd September 1973? It was a sunny day here in NY." These twins started by being totally asocial but (at least one of them, can't recall what happened to the other) but as their social skills improved their computational capacities got lost. By the end of the documentary you saw one of them failing a basic math test (he said a certain number ending in 5 was prime) but going out in NYC and buying a hot dog, which he would have been unable 20 years before.

  3. Process Variation is anathema to NTV by Theovon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not sure what transistor geometry Clairmont is manufactured at, but for really small transistors (e.g. 32nm), process variation is a serious problem, making it hard to scale voltage down that low. The results are unpredictable performance from die-to-die and within die and major reliability problems. Static RAMs are hit the hardest, because they use the smallest transistors. "http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~millerti/parichute-camera.pdf" is an example of a paper that explores the consequences of ultra-low voltage SRAMs and tries to solve it with forward error correction.

  4. Intel late to the game for low power consumption.. by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was running a processor off of solar years ago. using the VIA C3 processors from 4 years ago. Glad to see Intel catching up to the rest of the industry.

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  5. Re:Power consumption of processor by rrohbeck · · Score: 4, Informative

    Power is proportional to switching frequency and to the square of the supply voltage. Reducing the supply voltage is the main vehicle to reduce power consumption, but with standard CMOS you run into the problem that transistors leak a little current when they're run at or near the threshold voltage because they don't turn off completely (you need significantly more than the threshold voltage for that.)
    So in a totem pole circuit (used in standard CMOS) current leaks straight from Vcc to ground - not good. They must have designed some tricky circuits that avoid this current path although the transistors are still conducting a little.
    Of course the real reason behind this is that even standard CMOS designs suffer from leakage -- the smaller the more leakage -- so they can apply these techniques to standard designs as well. That will probably be a necessity at some point beyond 22nm.

  6. Interesting, but... by gstrickler · · Score: 2

    1.2V @ 1GHz is not power efficient at speed. Existing Core designs are running much faster at lower voltages. Based upon what they've demonstrated so far, it's useful for devices that need moderate speed on an occasional basis, but spend the majority of their time at idle.

    Now, if they can scale it up to 2-3GHz at around 1V and idle at less than 0.5V at a reduced freq, then it'll be something worth looking at for common applications.

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    1. Re:Interesting, but... by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine CPUs that run at 1.1V... you could power them with a potato!

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    2. Re:Interesting, but... by mmmbeer · · Score: 3, Funny

      At Wheatley Laboratories, CPU *is* potato!

    3. Re:Interesting, but... by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      Did you miss the part where the CPU runs at 0.28V @ 3MHz? That's lower than any other digital logic IC in the world.

  7. Re:Intel late to the game for low power consumptio by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And here I was thinking that the first solar powered calculators were made in 1978. They have a CPU too, right?

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  8. Sunscreen by erick99 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't about using my computer outside, especially in the summer when it's very hot and in the winter when it's very cold. I might be able to manage spring & fall but not on windy days as my papers would fly about.

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  9. Good to see Intel is focusing on energy efficiency by Irick · · Score: 2

    They must really be intimidated by rise of ARM. I wonder where this will take us in terms of the evolution of embedded computers.

  10. Re:Power consumption of processor by dkf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reducing the supply voltage is the main vehicle to reduce power consumption, but with standard CMOS you run into the problem that transistors leak a little current when they're run at or near the threshold voltage because they don't turn off completely (you need significantly more than the threshold voltage for that.)

    Of course they do; CMOS transistors are analog circuit components. Yes, usually they're driven into a state where their non-linearity makes them behave almost like binary components, but they're very much not that. The closer you drive them to the limit, whether through raising the speed or through lowering the voltage, the more they behave like the analog devices they truly are.

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  11. Dual CPUs by DrYak · · Score: 2

    And some Dell Lattitude even had a separate low power CPU for that task.

    Power up the ARM and boot into the in-BIOS Linux for basic web etc.
    Power up the Intel and boot into the full installed OS (windows or whatever) for a full environment (but power hungry)

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