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Virginia High Court Rejects Case Against Climatologist Michael Mann

ananyo writes "The Virgina Supreme Court on Friday tossed out an investigation by the state's conservative attorney general, Ken Cuccinelli, into Michael Mann, the former University of Virginia climatologist whose work on the now-famous hockey-stick graph has become a lightning rod for climate skeptics. 'In a dense and conflicted 26-page ruling (PDF) covering a century and a half of case law — including references to kings as well as modern "functional incongruities" that divided the judges themselves — Virginia’s high court ruled that the university is not a "person" and thus is not subject to Cuccinelli’s demands under the state’s Fraud Against Taxpayers Act.' The 'climategate' scientist has been cleared of wrongdoing by a number of investigations."

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  1. personhood by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Interesting-- so corporations are persons, according to the Supreme court, but universities aren't, according to the Virginia court.

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    1. Re:personhood by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But according to settled law, more than a century old, corporations are legally persons. A lot of people think a lot that's wrong with this country has resulted from that. I think they may be on to something.

      The big difference, of course, is that one votes with ballots, the other with dollars.

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  2. Re:An agenda by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everybody's got an agenda.
    There is no fact.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

    --Phillip K. Dick.

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  3. Re:An agenda by medlefsen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tell that to the computer you're using which depends on two centuries worth of scientific advancement. The goal of science is to account for bias and get closer to truth in spite of it, and it's obviously worked. The same system that brought you electromagnatism, antibiotics, and plastic has now brought you climate change. You can bet against them but history isn't on your side.

  4. Re:Statistical Games Disqualify You As A Scientist by KiahZero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If your experiment needs statistics, you ought to have done a better experiment." - a stupid sentiment, regardless of who said it.

    Anyhow, your assertions have been investigated and found to be false.

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  5. Re:Statistical Games Disqualify You As A Scientist by pnewhook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No sorry. This conservative witch hunt against this work has been clearly shown to be politically biased and non factual. Stop perpetrating the myth.

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  6. Re:An agenda by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's a weak argument -- essentially a mass scale argument from authority. The strong argument is that the data support the conclusion that the climate is warming and that much of that warming is due to human activity -- and no other possible cause has been shown to be sufficient to cause what has been observed.

    THAT is why the smart money is on continued warming and on conservation or other measures to contain it.

  7. Re:An agenda by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fascinating that you sometimes need to quote a guy who at one point hallucinated being taken over by the prophet Elijah to some people, because he makes more sense than their ramblings, Scary, actually, given how often I have to use your quote myself.

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  8. Re:An agenda by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An appeal to authority is only fallacious when the authorities being invoked are not in fact authorities. If you defend a diagnosis of macular degeneration because your dentist says that's what you have, that's a fallacious appeal to authority. If you defend a diagnosis of macular degeneration because your opthamologist says that's what you have, it is not fallacious.

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  9. Re:An agenda by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Freedom doesn't mean liberation from reality. The universe actually doesn't give one sweet fuck about your freedoms.

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