Canadian Music Industry Wants Subscriber Disclosure Without Court Oversight

An anonymous reader writes "The incredible demands of the Canadian music industry as it seeks a massive overhaul of Canadian copyright law continues. It is seeking increased liability for social networking sites, search engines, blogging platforms, video sites, and many other websites featuring third party contributions, plus a new iPod tax, and an extension in the term of copyright. Last week, it went further, demanding a requirement for Internet providers to disclose customer name and address information to copyright owners without court oversight as well as takedowns with no due process and unlimited statutory damages."

Comments

You used to be cool, Canada

[elrous0]

What happened to that Canada I remember, huh? The country to took in draft dodgers during Vietnam? The country that instituted universal healthcare? The country where "liberal" wasn't an insult? The country that wasn't afraid to zig when the U.S. zagged?

You've changed, man.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Cabriel]

What the Labels want, and what they will get are two different things.

For example, just because I want a new car and a pony doesn't mean I'll get the pony.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Mordok-DestroyerOfWo]

What happened to that Canada I remember, huh? The country to took in draft dodgers during Vietnam? The country that instituted universal healthcare? The country where "liberal" wasn't an insult? The country that wasn't afraid to zig when the U.S. zagged?

You've changed, man.

Amen. Although, in a certain light this may be a good thing. As a United Statsian, I've observed that my own clinically insane government tends to want to distance itself from our northern cousins, maybe (albeit not bloody likely) we'll start to pare back copyright to a more reasonable level. On the other hand, we may simply up the ante and make copyright eleventy billion years. But even that may not be a bad thing, the more ridiculous copyright is, the more people will ignore it. Even right now the average person on the street doesn't see a ethical problem with consuming media that was illegally distributed. Not everything that is immoral is illegal, and not everything that is illegal is immoral.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Anonymous Coward]

We should make a strong counter proposal:

1) Shorten copyright to 10 years
2) Remove the levy on blank media
3) Quit whining about "profits" - you aren't "entitled" to them; you have to go earn them. Yes, this means you don't get any more laws to prop up legacy methods of distribution.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[DarwinSurvivor]

Actually, I believe it started earlier than that. Harper may have started the "privacy" stuff, but we've been bending over to the Americans since NAFTA and the softwood lumber issue started.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Anonymous Coward]

I am perfectly willing to give them all of these enforcement tools.
I return I want a flat 14 year non-extendable unchangable term
for copyright!
Deal??

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[eddy the lip]

This is true, but the rate that things have accelerated at since last spring scares the living bejeezus out of me.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[bubkus_jones]

As much as Stephen Harper has been a pain, and how much people may dislike that he was elected, the point is, every election he's lead the Conservatives, they've increased the number of seats they controlled, while Stephane Dion and Michael Ignatief couldn't even get elected in their home ridings. That's the biggest thing about Liberal supporters that irritates me, these days. They're all "Harper's evil and is ruining this country" and "No one wants Harper" and crap like that, while ignoring the fact that he's getting the votes. As far as the election system goes, the people who voice their opinion (in the only way that counts) want Harper.

They go on to complain about the ever decreasing voter turnout, but don't think about how it seems to coincide with the ever decreasing of people voting for the Liberals. They want change, an alternative to Harper, but can't offer any viable candidate. The candidates they did find (the aformentioned Dion and Ignatief) were wooden, subpar speakers (from what I saw in various interviews and debates) and seemed rather airheaded. They reminded me of characters I created in middle and high school (grades 6-12) for "creative writing" assignments in English. Harper, to me, seems to have an actual personality, like you could actually converse with him in a normal fashion if you were two people who just happen to pass each other on the street.

Holy Handgrenades Batman

[Wild_dog!]

Talk about the apparent obliteration of citizens rights.... I thought the US was starting to turn to the darkside, but Canada is working hard eh?

Re:Holy Handgrenades Batman

[gstoddart]

Talk about the apparent obliteration of citizens rights.... I thought the US was starting to turn to the darkside, but Canada is working hard eh?

Sadly, this is likely coming from American groups applying pressure. There seems to be a lot of lobbying by foreign organizations on this front.

The copyright lobby won't be happy until they've managed to make sure that the internet can only function according to their rules. And they want everyone else to pay for it.

Fucking parasites.

Re:iPod tax?!

[viperidaenz]

Does it mean its legal to pirate music on iPods because the copyright lobby is getting paid for the sale of the item because it could be used for piracy? Like their blank CD tax...

Canadian Music industry wants...

[the_fat_kid]

I want a pony.
doesn't mean it will happen.

So whats new?

[Master Moose]

The recording industry makes unreasonable demands. . Cue 500 angry comments on Slashdot and other similar sites

Rinse, Repeat.

Is this the recording indusries plan? To beat the public and legistlators into submission with their continued and relentless demands?

To spam each country with such requests in the hope that one will be foolish enough to fall for it? I never knew that big Media emerged from Nigeria

An outlandish sense of entitlement.

[lexsird]

The music and movie industry has an outlandish sense of entitlement that I think need jammed straight up their tailpipes. I had this argument today with a friend and I told him both of these industries are failing because their time has passed, the digital age has not only toppled their tight fisted distribution systems, but it's open the doors for the masses to be creative. Hence their days, like the stage coach before cars and highways, has passed.

Neither of these archaic industries are worth sacrificing the freedoms of the Internet for. I guess we will have to put them against the wall when the times comes as well.

Re:Why all this silliness?

[0123456]

Whenever this comes up it seems like the music industry behaves like a frightened animal in every single instance. Why doesn't it try to play it cool?

What do they have to lose? Without draconian copyright laws they'll be closing their doors in a few years.

Re:Constitution?

[Mashiki]

Our charter? Yeah it does. Actually a significant portion of the charter covers prosecution and protection from the law, of law, and other such sundry things. This will get no where because it has no basis in canadian law, fair dealing takes care of it. And that they've already agreed to the levy, means that they already get money. In turn the courts will toss this right out and slap them with yet another fine.

Unlikely to happen, Really bad timing

[volts]

We just had a major shit-storm in Canada over a government bill (C-30) that would allow the police the right to identifying information without a warrant. The bill has been hustled off to committee for amendment as a result of public outrage. Government politician must be rolling their eyes at the timing of CIMA's demands.